Author Topic: The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread! (Read 904926 times)

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3990 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:31:52 PM »

Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM

Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

Were you a fan of the Winter Rose songs?

Lowdz · « **Reply #3991 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:40:15 PM »

Quote from: Prog Snob on February 08, 2016, 01:31:52 PM

Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

Were you a fan of the Winter Rose songs?

I should be, it's my kind of stuff but it just never did it for me.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #3992 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:43:23 PM »

Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:40:15 PM

Quote from: Prog Snob on February 08, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Nah, I'm happy enough with James doing the lot. I love his voice, always have.
If they'd used different voices it would've had to have been done under a different name than DT.

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

Were you a fan of the Winter Rose songs?

I should be, it's my kind of stuff but it just never did it for me.

Agreed. Something was just missing from those songs. James' voice was killer on one of the bootlegs I have from them though.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #3993 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:45:39 PM »

I could never fully get into Winter Rose either.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #3994 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:52:28 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 01:30:28 PM

I don't understand the talk of James altering his voice dependant of the character. Sounds the same to me.

If I listen hard enough, I do hear some very subtle changes. Faythe is soft and smooth; Nafaryus is a little gargly; Gabriel is a smooth too, but a little more masculine.

I have no idea how he's going to pull this off live.

wolfking · « **Reply #3995 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:53:56 PM »

I guess. And yeah, it's going to be a challenge live indeed.

TAC · « **Reply #3996 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:57:31 PM »

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 08, 2016, 01:52:28 PM

Quote from: wolfking on February 08, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
I don't understand the talk of James altering his voice dependant of the character. Sounds the same to me.

If I listen hard enough, I do hear some very subtle changes. Faythe is soft and smooth; Nafaryus is a little gargly; Gabriel is a smooth too, but a little more masculine.

I have no idea how he's going to pull this off live.

I think the whole line of promo that James changed his voice for each character was overrated. There are some subtle changes at times, but it's a bit inconsistent at times. Faythe is soft and smooth, but not in the last song. Nafaryus is gargly on Savior In The Square, but not in Lord Nefaryus, where he sounds like Freddie Mercury.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #3997 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:15:08 PM »

TAC · « **Reply #3998 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM »

And BTW, though Freddie Mercury's voice is a curious choice for Lord Nefaryus, that song kicks all kinds of ass. Easily one of my favorites. The Queen vibe is incredible.

Fixed! Thanks White Out Man!

bl5150 · « **Reply #3999 on:** February 08, 2016, 03:07:59 PM »

Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM

that song kinds all kinds of ass.

Quote from: Lowdz on February 08, 2016, 01:17:58 PM

Maybe it should have been a pe truck / Rudess project.

I am convinced that king is doing most of the voices in here at the moment

TAC · « **Reply #4000 on:** February 08, 2016, 03:12:18 PM »

Hi, my name is Brent.

bl5150 · « **Reply #4001 on:** February 08, 2016, 03:17:27 PM »

Haha - this is the dork thread remember

I'll make sure to throw in some Kinginese here and there to keep things exciting.

I am very much out of the loop at the moment with news etc.......but looking at some of the recent Blabbermouth stories re Megadeth you would have to wonder about the band dynamics

Ellefson: I am Dave's right hand man
Dave: No , Kiko is.
Ellefson : I was a founding member
Dave: No he wasn't

etc...

wolfking · « **Reply #4002 on:** February 08, 2016, 03:47:05 PM »

I'd take Kiko over Dave anyway as my 2IC, nothing wrong here haha.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4003 on:** February 08, 2016, 09:25:51 PM »

Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2016, 01:57:31 PM

I think the whole line of promo that James changed his voice for each character was overrated. There are some subtle changes at times, but it's a bit inconsistent at times. Faythe is soft and smooth, but not in the last song. Nafaryus is gargly on Savior In The Square, but not in Lord Nefaryus, where he sounds like Freddie Mercury.

Agreed. At times it's obvious, but more often than not, there's no change, especially between Gabriel/Ahrys/Narrator/whatever.
Doesn't bother me at all, but they talked it up to be bigger than it was.

wolfking · « **Reply #4004 on:** February 08, 2016, 09:28:35 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 08, 2016, 09:25:51 PM

Quote from: TAC on February 08, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
I think the whole line of promo that James changed his voice for each character was overrated. There are some subtle changes at times, but it's a bit inconsistent at times. Faythe is soft and smooth, but not in the last song. Nafaryus is gargly on Savior In The Square, but not in Lord Nefaryus, where he sounds like Freddie Mercury.

Agreed. At times it's obvious, but more often than not, there's no change, especially between Gabriel/Ahrys/Narrator/whatever.
Doesn't bother me at all, but they talked it up to be bigger than it was.

Yeah, that's the only reason I mentioned it.

bl5150 · « **Reply #4005 on:** February 09, 2016, 04:05:32 AM »

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh-that's better. Listening to some music in here for the first time in almost a week. Final dork update - like with many of the Windows 10/iTunes bugs I managed to find at least a partial solution in some obscure little corner of the internet (not from Microsoft or Apple themselves of course). We're talking huge numbers - so I can't be sure - but I believe I have managed to recover at least the majority of my ratings/files and playlists. And also the missing 20,000 songs that had disappeared from the library (not from my hard drive). The only area that seems lost for good is all the work I put into the artwork for the many albums that don't register with Gracenote. Ah well...........could've been much worse.

A bit more work to do tonight and then back to something like normality tomorrow I hope. Glad to have my music back

wolfking · « **Reply #4006 on:** February 09, 2016, 04:16:40 AM »

Cool shit man.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #4007 on:** February 09, 2016, 05:21:02 AM »

Good to hear that your music is back.

Life without music is like beer without alcohol, you can go through it, but where is the fun?

jjrock88 · « **Reply #4008 on:** February 09, 2016, 01:04:37 PM »

Rock n Roll!

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4009 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:28:42 PM »

I've almost finished my first listen of the Last in Line album. I was hoping the rest of the album would be more distinctive than the singles, but if anything the rest of the album was even more bland. I couldn't recall a single melody or chorus from the entire album if I tried, it just blurred together. It's the kind of album where it finishes and you think "was that really a whole album? I could swear I only heard 2 or 3 songs".

The performances were good, the production was good, the vocalist was good, but the songwriting is just nothing, almost an afterthought to the album. Nothing stood out as actually bad, but that's because nothing stood out at all.

I've thought albums were average on first listen, but then grown to like them on subsequent listens, but I'm just not feeling the potential for that here. There was little variety, and the melodies were all the same.

wolfking · « **Reply #4010 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:30:29 PM »

That's disappointing, and a wasted opportunity.

Did you check the Resurrection Kings Blob?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4011 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:32:17 PM »

Yeah, I've been listening to that one a bit over the past week or so. It's not mindblowing, but it's overall quite enjoyable, and I'll probably get more listens out of it. I don't see it being an album I'll still be listening to into the future though.

I also got Revolution Saints the other day too. Are we confused again yet?

wolfking · « **Reply #4012 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:39:25 PM »

I'll give that one a spin, but not expecting too much from that.

I actually got the Revolution Saints in the car today. It's the one with Castonovo, Blades and Aldrich. Really good, some great rockers on there but maybe one too many ballads.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4013 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:44:02 PM »

I don't expect you'll get much from Resurrection Kings.

I've only given Revolution Saints one quick spin yet, pretty positive so far. I think I skipped the ballads, because Frontiers albums have given me more than my fill of ballads, it's the rockers that make or break these albums for me.

wolfking · « **Reply #4014 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:49:10 PM »

Fair enough, and the rockers are really good.

Back on My Trail
Locked Out of Paradise
Strangers to This Life
Better World

Amazing songs right here. Great vibe in all of them too. The Eclipse cover is cool enough, but not needed, but still it's a rocker that fills out the back end of the album.

jjrock88 · « **Reply #4015 on:** February 10, 2016, 03:12:05 AM »

Just combine those two bands into Resurrection Saints and avoid confusion lol

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4016 on:** February 10, 2016, 03:18:11 AM »

Reverection Kaints.

wolfking · « **Reply #4017 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:14:51 AM »

Well, it could work, Revolution Saints need a new singer/drummer.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4018 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:17:23 AM »

I never expect a second album from any of these put together Frontiers projects anyway.

wolfking · « **Reply #4019 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:19:17 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 10, 2016, 04:17:23 AM

I never expect a second album from any of these put together Frontiers projects anyway.

No me either, but with Castronovo, it's definitely out of the question now for these guys.

I think you'd be surprised at how many have actually released more than one album. Sure most over the last couple of years are obviously a one off novelty project but some of them seem to have a little bit of lasting power.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #4020 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:28:55 AM »

I know that many have released more than one, I just assume they're a one-off unless I hear more about it. A lot of these albums are side projects or one of many projects, basically the musical equivalent of throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Not that I have a problem with that, but we end up with a lot of stuff to wade through to find the winners.

bl5150 · « **Reply #4021 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:29:23 AM »

For me the Resurrection Kings is definitely stronger. Plenty of reviews around lauding Viv's return to his metal days but I dunno what they're smoking - for the most part it's a plodding bluesy rock album. Even on the songs that threaten to rock out , they manage to plod it out in the mid section (Already Dead). The Sickness isn't bad I suppose but it's all rather pedestrian.

I get the feeling that Viv is trying to rock but it's just not there any more. After all those years playing second fiddle to Phil Collen he has probably just forgotten.

I rated Resurrection Kings 88% , Last In Line 70%

wolfking · « **Reply #4022 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:32:17 AM »

I'll definitely check the Resurrection Kings then.

A song from this Lords of Black project thing. Pretty shit really. Probably won't bother, nothing new here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avB8Hpmcqdw

jjrock88 · « **Reply #4023 on:** February 10, 2016, 08:18:05 AM »

Yeah meh

Lowdz · « **Reply #4024 on:** February 10, 2016, 12:46:01 PM »

I liked the Resurrection Kings. Revolution Saints didn't grab me at all. It was nice enough but very bland.

Have now listened to the Nordic Union and enjoyed it far more than Brent did. That could be because I haven't overdosed on the Martensson stuff so the repetition wasn't as obvious.

I thought the Last in Line was ok. Nothing special and Brent is right, it doesn't rock much.

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