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How early? I haven't gotten the bio yet. Gene seemed to openly admit that he wasn't invested much in the band during the 80s, I figured this happened after the failure that was The Elder.

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Gene was always self serving.  As early as Destroyer ge misses recording sessions.
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Interesting. His contributions seemed about equal with Paul's up until Lick It Up, and then again around the time of Revenge. Especially Carnival of Souls. I don't disagree with the self serving bit, but I just figured he was more involved in Kiss during those times. So that's a surprise.

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Paul was always waving the KISS flag while Gene was working on his own enterprise.
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Interesting. His contributions seemed about equal with Paul's up until Lick It Up, and then again around the time of Revenge. Especially Carnival of Souls. I don't disagree with the self serving bit, but I just figured he was more involved in Kiss during those times. So that's a surprise.

He was still mostly present at that point, but from Destroyer onwards they started functioning less as a unified band, with less collaboration on each other's songs, and more outside musicians, especially for Peter and Ace.
And even though Gene was always contributing songs, they were never as polished as Paul's, so there were less of them on the albums. Just check out the Love Gun demo, and aside from the guitar solo, it's identical to the studio version. Paul even played bass on that one.
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What Blob said.
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For those of you who like a bit of straight ahead rock/metal the new Riot (V) - Unleash The Fire is pretty damn good.....I rate it 83%   No original members now but they've done a good job of capturing the Riot sound and it's pretty solid from start to finish. 

Another one I finally got around to after a few years is the Forbidden Demos by XYZ...I rate it 90% (making allowances for production and the time).   If you like  XYZ /Marc Diglio (who was just a kid on these demos) it's a must.  A lot of their demos and live stuff from 86-90 are better than most of the melodic rock being done now.  Surprisingly good after going in with no real expectations.  It would never have been released but for original guitarist Bobby Pieper trying to make some money off some crappy old demos , so Terry Ilous responded with these and I'm glad he did. 

A few of my faves off the Riot :

Bring The Hammer Down : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uraePRXUdw0

Take Me Back (bit of a Scorps vibe) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDM-6haRWew

Until We Meet Again:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGvGkHhCNrU


And one from the XYZ demos :

High Life (1988 demo):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cfEG4jjrjY

 


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For those of you who like a bit of straight ahead rock/metal the new Riot (V) - Unleash The Fire is pretty damn good.....I rate it 83%   No original members now but they've done a good job of capturing the Riot sound and it's pretty solid from start to finish. 

This is squarely on The List, though I probably will not see until my Christmas haul. Love Todd Michael Hall. I've sampled a few tracks and it's very good.

With apologies to Thundersteel, I have not followed Riot after Born In America, and frankly, I don't consider this a Riot release at all. But I am definitely looking forward to it.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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The readers of Rhythm magazine were given a list of 100 of the best drum intros to vote on and these were the Top 10

10) Iron Maiden: Where Eagles Dare

9) Foo Fighters: My Hero

8) Nirvana: Smells Like Teen Spirit

7) Judas Priest: Painkiller

6) Led Zeppelin: When The Levee Breaks

5) Queens Of The Stone Age: A Song For The Dead

4) Led Zeppelin: Rock And Roll

3) Guns N’ Roses: You Could Be Mine

2) Rush: The Spirit Of Radio

1) Van Halen: Hot For Teacher



Good to see the very under rated AVH get some "winning".

 
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How the hell did Smells Like Teen Spirit get on this list? ???

Some good picks on there though. HFT has a an awesome intro, so I'm happy to see that in first place. I love You Could Be Mine, but Rock n Roll should have definitely been higher up on this list.
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You need some token grunge in a list to hold your cred these days  ;D
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Painkiller!!!!!

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You need some token grunge in a list to hold your cred these days  ;D

I think that inclusion hurts their cred more than anything. :lol
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The way the drums kick in on that song is awesome. It's very short and simple but it's huge and at this point, iconic.

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Surprising yet awesome to see Where Eagles Dare, always loved that one.

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Hmm - just found this amongst a pile of junk.  Never listened to it  :facepalm:

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Is that an early version of Invasion?

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Is that an early version of Invasion?

Nah - it was actually towards the end of VVI.    VVI was formed around 84 and debuted around 86 - this was copyright 88 which was around the time of All Systems Go.   Supposedly he wrote these songs , demoed them up with JSS and then shopped them around to publishing companies in the hope they would be taken on by other artists.

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Is it any good?
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Is it any good?

No it wasn't  ;D  It was actually quite poppy - what he was trying to do now makes a bit more sense (break into the charts with some lighter material).  Why I found it amongst a pile of crap now also makes more sense  :D
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Is it any good?

No it wasn't  ;D  It was actually quite poppy - what he was trying to do now makes a bit more sense (break into the charts with some lighter material).  Why I found it amongst a pile of crap now also makes more sense  :D

I've heard these and they aren't great.

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I just want to say that I bought Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album and it kicks fuc#ing ass!  :metal
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I just want to say that I bought Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album and it kicks fuc#ing ass!  :metal

Will check it out........
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I just want to say that I bought Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins album and it kicks fuc#ing ass!  :metal

Will check it out........

Yeah, that was one I had to check out too.

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Heard the first track and thought it was shit. Will give the rest of it a go.

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Heard the first track and thought it was shit. Will give the rest of it a go.

I like that one.

I think the whole album is pretty tasty.


Was it you that was talking about Riot V? I listened to most of the tracks, and I think I prefer the Lepond album. I still may get the Riot V but was underwhelmed.

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It was me talking about the Riot - I rated it around 80% so felt it was a very solid effort without being fantastic.
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Heard the first track and thought it was shit. Will give the rest of it a go.

Listened to about 1/2 of it myself.  Musically thought it was pretty decent, but vocally I couldn't get into it.  Couple of good moments, but overall, meh.
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It was me talking about the Riot - I rated it around 80% so felt it was a very solid effort without being fantastic.

I love the classic East Coast metal. Lepond's album is very 1982ish, but that hits a spot with me. It actually reminds me of classic Riot.
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Listening again I was a bit harsh calling it shit. It's ok. I prefer the Riot actually - the singer is better. Not going to set the world on fire, either of them, but yeah, the Riot is better.

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Listening again I was a bit harsh calling it shit. It's ok. I prefer the Riot actually - the singer is better. Not going to set the world on fire, either of them, but yeah, the Riot is better.
Love Todd Michael Hall. Likely buying the Riot either tonight or tommorrow. (or Tommorrow And Tonight!)
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the Riot is better.
After two listens, yes I would agree. In fact the Riot V is downright fantastic! TMH's vocals are much better here than the Reverence album, and those were pretty damn stong.
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Underwhelmed to downright fantastic in one easy step.   That's called a "grower"  ;D
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Underwhelmed to downright fantastic in one easy step.   That's called a "grower"  ;D

Yeah but it's true. The Youtube clips didn't do it justice. I actually got goosebumps listening.  I've been looking forward to this album for a while now. Never followed post Born In America Riot, but this has a classic feel even though the band is totally different.
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In fact, I'd say the Riot V is as good as Blind Rage.
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