Author Topic: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton (Read 116434 times)

BlackInk · « **Reply #735 on:** October 04, 2015, 03:19:37 AM »

Yeah, season 9 keeps delivering great stuff. Interesting episode, psyched for next week! And even though I too knew who the last ghost would be, that shot of ghost Doctor was one creepy image.

I don't mind the sonic glasses for now, but I wouldn't want them to be a permanent thing.

Oh, one negative about the episode though: Overly adventurous Clara is a bit weird. I mean, lives are at stake here, and having her be all like "this is so exciting!" takes away from that a bit. I know she got more serious towards the end, but it was a bit jarring in the beginning.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #736 on:** October 04, 2015, 05:24:46 AM »

Quote from: BlackInk on October 04, 2015, 03:19:37 AM

I don't mind the sonic glasses for now, but I wouldn't want them to be a permanent thing.

Judging by the latest video with Moffat, it looks like they're sticking around for now.

ariich · « **Reply #737 on:** October 04, 2015, 07:36:27 AM »

Man, this series is so good so far!

I'm fine with the sunglasses, it's not like they get used very often and it's not really any different to the screwdriver.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #738 on:** October 04, 2015, 08:51:39 AM »

Glasses fine by me . Just so long as they don't become "Magic Deus Ex Machina Vessel".

Onno · « **Reply #739 on:** October 04, 2015, 04:17:27 PM »

Just watched the new episode. It was another great one! Didn't know the whole series is going to be two-parters though. Ah well, I guess I'll have to wait for next Saturday then. It can't come soon enough!

ozzy554 · « **Reply #740 on:** October 04, 2015, 05:35:39 PM »

I always love when doctor who does multi part episodes. It reminds me of the original serialized format which honestly I prefer. One thing I dont like about New who is that episodes sometimes feel rushed and the endings can be anti-climatic because of it. Like the Power of Three from season 7, The whole storyline about the blocks was very interesting and in the end the doctor just kinda quickly sonics his way out of it.

Heretic · « **Reply #741 on:** October 04, 2015, 09:54:40 PM »

Yeah I would love to see The Power of Three redone proper, it had such an interesting and enthralling beginning to the story, plus the "Doctor trying to live a normal life" setting was quite hilarious. Unfortunate about the ending.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #742 on:** October 04, 2015, 10:01:30 PM »

Old Who marathon-

The War Machines - I loved the setup of this one, it was very Skynet, and seemed ahead of its time with the idea of networking all of these computers together. And the computer noises sounded like dial-up. I liked the tech solutions The Doctor came up with to beating the war machines. Dodo was ditched with no fanfare at all. I'm not complaining.

The Tenth Planet - One of the most important ones yet, being both the last appearance of the 1st Doctor, and the first appearance of the Cybermen. The Cyberman voice was about the most obnoxiously painful thing I've ever heard, like nails on a chalkboard combined with the barks of a thousand dogs. The story itself was pretty good, but not very scientifically plausible. The lack of Doctor was obvious, and it would have been nice if the concept of regeneration was properly developed at this stage so they could have had The Doctor do something big as his final act, instead of just sleeping through the whole thing then changing at the end.
The most amusing thing is that the story was set 20 years into the future in 1986. Who could have imagined the show would actually still be running by that date?

Kotowboy · « **Reply #743 on:** October 05, 2015, 03:36:40 AM »

Watching the last episode - I wondered what would happen if the TARDIS has been flooded along with the base and they all left on a sub ?

Would the TARDIS home in on the Doctor ?

Has there ever been an episode where he's lost it ? There must be i'm sure.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #744 on:** October 05, 2015, 06:51:47 AM »

In Father's Day, The Doctor used the TARDIS key to get the TARDIS to rematerialize near him after it disappeared. In Time of the Doctor he used the key to get the TARDIS to materialize around him when he had to leave it on the spaceship.

In Cold War, the TARDIS de-materialized due to the flooding and relocated itself to the south pole (but apparently that was a special case because The Doctor had enabled the HADS).
In Voyage of the Damned, the TARDIS gets ejected into space when the space Titanic gets damaged, and it automatically landed on Earth.

I'm sure there are a ton of other instances of similar occurrences, but basically it does what the story calls for. I'd love to see a story where he was thoroughly screwed without his TARDIS or a key, and there wasn't an easy solution to fix it, although I'm sure they've probably done something like that in the 800 or so episodes.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #745 on:** October 05, 2015, 08:19:27 AM »

Yeah I can't imagine being the doctor if he actually did permanently lose it.

Then he'd just be screwed unless a fellow time traveller helped him out.

countoftuscany42 · « **Reply #746 on:** October 05, 2015, 10:59:08 AM »

Quote from: Onno on October 04, 2015, 04:17:27 PM

Didn't know the whole series is going to be two-parters though.

it's not all two-parters, but 8 out of 12 episodes are two-parters

Kotowboy · « **Reply #747 on:** October 05, 2015, 12:19:08 PM »

So...what do we think will be the explanation for the "ghosts" ?

And yes, obviously The Doctor isn't dead. My guess is that the "dead" people were copied somehow and then projected and The Doctor found a way to copy and project himself. . .

And finally - I really hope the entire series is this dark. i like it !

. Less Robot Of Sherwood as Blob said !

ariich · « **Reply #748 on:** October 05, 2015, 12:58:43 PM »

Quote from: countoftuscany42 on October 05, 2015, 10:59:08 AM

Quote from: Onno on October 04, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
Didn't know the whole series is going to be two-parters though.

it's not all two-parters, but 8 out of 12 episodes are two-parters

As I understand it, even those that aren't strictly two-parters are connected. Like The Girl Who Died/The Woman Who Lived. Different writers but same director and clearly a connection.

Heretic · « **Reply #749 on:** October 05, 2015, 11:44:17 PM »

Yeah, some of the "two-parters" are only so in spirit, rather than storyline.

Also, the penultimate episode is going to have Capaldi acting alone. That is going to be phenomenal.

Chino · « **Reply #750 on:** October 06, 2015, 08:13:35 AM »

Are you my mommy?

Chino · « **Reply #751 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:24:13 AM »

So the Doctor kisses roses and turns into another doctor. The fuck?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #752 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:29:15 AM »

Did you not follow what was happening? He absorbed all of the time vortex energy that Rose had taken in before it killed her, killing him instead.

Chino · « **Reply #753 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:51:07 AM »

I got that right up until a new Doctor appeared. How does that work?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #754 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:57:48 AM »

Quote from: Chino on October 07, 2015, 08:51:07 AM

I got that right up until a new Doctor appeared. How does that work?

You mean how/why does the Doctor become a different person? He's an alien known as a Time Lord, who instead of dying, "regenerates" with a new body, with a slightly different persona, but retaining his past memories.
Time Lords can regenerate up to 12 times, for a total of 13 incarnations. You just saw the 9th Doctor regenerate into the 10th. A Time Lord can still die before using up all of their regenerations, if the process is interrupted or unable to start, so he's not invincible.

Chino · « **Reply #755 on:** October 07, 2015, 09:05:16 AM »

Groovy. I'm going to miss #9.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #756 on:** October 07, 2015, 09:11:06 AM »

Sorry, I didn't even think of how confusing the randomly turning into another person thing is to a new viewer.

I was luckily already aware of it before getting into the show just from hearing about it (plus I live scifi, so this kind of thing doesn't phase me).

David Tennant's first episode doesn't show that much of him, but he's universally loved, so you'll get over the 9th Doctor in no time.

ariich · « **Reply #757 on:** October 07, 2015, 09:20:54 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2015, 09:11:06 AM

Sorry, I didn't even think of how confusing the randomly turning into another person thing is to a new viewer.

I'd say it's actually pretty well signposted in the episode. Nine only briefly explains it, but he does do so.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #758 on:** October 07, 2015, 09:23:26 AM »

Quote from: ariich on October 07, 2015, 09:20:54 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on October 07, 2015, 09:11:06 AM
Sorry, I didn't even think of how confusing the randomly turning into another person thing is to a new viewer.
I'd say it's actually pretty well signposted in the episode. Nine only briefly explains it, but he does do so.

I knew it was mentioned somewhat, but it's been a while since I've seen it, so I couldn't remember how much was directly explained.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #759 on:** October 07, 2015, 11:18:03 AM »

I thought they got rid of the whole #13 bodies thing so now he can regenerate forever ?

Because isn't Capaldi #13 if you count The War Doctor ?

BlackInk · « **Reply #760 on:** October 07, 2015, 12:38:17 PM »

He was given a new cycle (12 more regenerations) by the Time Lords beyond the crack at the end of The Time of the Doctor, right before regenerating into Capaldi.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #761 on:** October 07, 2015, 01:45:37 PM »

Neato !

Yeah they gad to address that at some point or Capaldi would have been the last one.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #762 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:44:36 PM »

Actually, Matt Smith was the last one, because not only did you have the War Doctor, but you had Tennant's aborted regeneration in Journey's End.

ozzy554 · « **Reply #763 on:** October 08, 2015, 08:19:38 AM »

Tennants doctor is actually my least favorite of the new show. It has nothing to do with the actor I think he did a great job with what he was given. My main issue is with RTD. RTD can be a great writer, Midnight is one of the best episodes of the new series. However when he's bad you get stuff like the end of time.

BlackInk · « **Reply #764 on:** October 08, 2015, 09:11:58 AM »

It's been a while since I saw it, but from what I can remember, I had no problems with The End of Time.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #765 on:** October 08, 2015, 09:17:08 AM »

For the RTD era, I didn't have major problems with The End of Time. Last of the Timelords is far worse, with tweety bird Jesus Doctor.
I thought Tennant was a great Doctor despite not enjoying the RTD era that much in hindsight. No matter how bad the episode was, Tennant was always gold.

Onno · « **Reply #766 on:** October 08, 2015, 09:22:07 AM »

I agree. Tennant was a great Doctor but I like Moffat's writing way more than RTD's. The Last of the Timelords was okay but I loved The End of Time.

Scorpion · « **Reply #767 on:** October 08, 2015, 02:24:56 PM »

Kinda late to the party, but I really liked Under the Lake. Great atmosphere and the ghosts just look fantastic. It was a little predictable, but it was impeccably constructed and paced.

Couple of nitpicks: the cards, the company guy being all like MONEY and then dying. The first didn't really fit with Capaldi imo - it might have, but it was too weird to work really well, especially the friend/family member/pet thing. The second is just so super clichéd that it would be nice to have it turn out difference for once, like it did on Voyage of the Damned.

Really looking forward to the second part in two days, it looks a lot less predictable, and while it's clear that the Doctor doesn't die, I'm very interested in seeing the events that happen before the flood, and maybe even have the Doctor play the hero in the past and the villain, as a ghost, in the present.

Chino: I liked the first episode too, but that was because I started with Episode 3, The Unquiet Dead and only went back to the first two after finishing Series 7, so my perspective was a little different, but I'm glad that the show has won you over. What were your favourite Ninth Doctor stories? And don't forget to keep us updated on your progress through the beauty that is Doctor Who!

Blob: The War Machines is pretty great and probably my favourite First Doctor story. Shame so much of Troughton's run is missing, but what is there is fantastic.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #768 on:** October 08, 2015, 03:31:49 PM »

MY PREDICTION for Before The Flood...

Doctor goes back to the past and there's basically a holo generator which copies the dead people and projects them. He finds a way to copy himself and still live and projects himself...

That doesn't explain how holograms can hold objects though - but that can be explained easily in this type of show

" yadda yadda hard light blah de blah moving on "

ariich · « **Reply #769 on:** October 08, 2015, 05:57:54 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2015, 03:31:49 PM

That doesn't explain how holograms can hold objects though - but that can be explained easily in this type of show

" yadda yadda hard light blah de blah moving on "

Red Dwarf reference?

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Author Topic: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton (Read 116434 times)