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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1330 on: December 26, 2017, 09:15:56 AM »
High marks on the Christmas special. Really great, and I totally called who Gatiss was going to be. Cannot wait to see what Jodie will bring to the table

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« Reply #1331 on: December 27, 2017, 01:09:38 PM »
Really great sendoff for Capaldi!

Didn't watch the last full series with Capaldi, so i was a little bit lost about Bill and Nardole. Should watch he's last series when i have time..

Really excited about the next doctor, and i agree that she is going to receive some very unfair scrutiny, for all the wrong reasons..

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« Reply #1332 on: December 27, 2017, 04:11:31 PM »
I wonder how quickly the tardis will reappear, or if we'll have a long stretch of non-tardis episodes (kinda like 3rd doctor had)...
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1333 on: December 27, 2017, 09:42:21 PM »
I don't think they'd dare go without the TARDIS that long. It'll probably be like The 11th Hour, where the Doctor will go the entire episode without the TARDIS, but get the new rebuilt TARDIS at the end of the episode, along with the outfit. Unless they kick it off with a double episode, in which case it'll maybe be two.
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« Reply #1334 on: December 28, 2017, 12:12:18 AM »
Iím quite happy with the episode, not as silly as Iím usually afraid that the christmas episode will be. Good send-off for Capaldi.

As for Whittaker, while I donít necessary think itís wrong, Iím always a bit annoyed with pc pandering or using popularity of male characters to sort of create an illusion of popularity for the now female character instead of just creating interesting female characters from scratch. That said, sheís here now, I have no other choice but to give it an honest chance which I will of course do. I hope she does great and Iím still looking forward to the new season.
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« Reply #1335 on: December 28, 2017, 10:29:35 AM »
Now that I have had some time to digest the episode, I do have one major criticism. If the Doctor is supposed to originally be from the future, how does he not know what a browser history. I know they wanted to show how progressive the Doctor has become since being the First, but when you take in the larger context, it doesn't make sense.

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« Reply #1336 on: December 28, 2017, 11:22:39 AM »
Yes, and why does an alien being from an insanely advanced culture where people can cross-gender regenerate reflect 1960s human views on gender equality. This show was never really about making sense to me, but itís fun so itís okay.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1337 on: December 28, 2017, 11:45:23 AM »
Now that I have had some time to digest the episode, I do have one major criticism. If the Doctor is supposed to originally be from the future, how does he not know what a browser history. I know they wanted to show how progressive the Doctor has become since being the First, but when you take in the larger context, it doesn't make sense.

Because it's an Earth concept (at least by name), and he had not spent much time on Earth yet, especially past 1963. He would have been unfamiliar with the term, even if the technology is beneath the Time Lords.

Yes, and why does an alien being from an insanely advanced culture where people can cross-gender regenerate reflect 1960s human views on gender equality. This show was never really about making sense to me, but itís fun so itís okay.

The first Doctor wasn't overtly sexist like that, and it wasn't a very accurate portrayal at all. But, it was funny, and it worked for the context of the episode, so I'll excuse it.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1338 on: December 30, 2017, 05:43:36 AM »
I've now seen two Doctors regenerate this week. First was of course the 12th Doctor, and I just saw Pertwee's regeneration into Tom Baker. Pertwee's final season seemed much stronger than previous seasons to me, although his final story was a bit weak, as was his death. But it's the first time regeneration is mentioned by name IIRC, so that still makes it notable.

I've only watched the first episode with Tom Baker so far, but he's stolen every scene he's in. From what little I'd seen in the past, I knew I'd like him, but I can already see why he's the favourite of the original series. He's so wacky and fun, and I look forward to finally seeing his era.
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« Reply #1339 on: January 02, 2018, 03:00:51 AM »
Quite liked the Chrimbo special, didn't really have much of a story though.   Sad to see Peter leave, but very much looking forward to seeing what direction they go with with Jodie (kind off thought she'd get more screen time).

I've now seen two Doctors regenerate this week. First was of course the 12th Doctor, and I just saw Pertwee's regeneration into Tom Baker. Pertwee's final season seemed much stronger than previous seasons to me, although his final story was a bit weak, as was his death. But it's the first time regeneration is mentioned by name IIRC, so that still makes it notable.

I've only watched the first episode with Tom Baker so far, but he's stolen every scene he's in. From what little I'd seen in the past, I knew I'd like him, but I can already see why he's the favourite of the original series. He's so wacky and fun, and I look forward to finally seeing his era.

I'm pretty much alone in the opinion Tom Baker is only an average Doctor for me.  I preferred Troughton, Pertwee and Davidson from the original series, and probably all the returning show Doctors more (Eccleston is kind off hard to judge, I'm basing it mostly off his potential, had he continued).   Most of my issues with Tom Baker are due to his later series when he clearly just became lazy.

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1340 on: January 02, 2018, 03:14:11 AM »
As many will know, I frequently have different opinions/preferences to the prevailing popularity among fanbases, but I do think Tom Baker is amazing and definitely my favourite of the original series (with Troughton in second place). He brought such energy, humour and dynamism to the character, in my opinion. Some of the writing was also fantastic during that period too, which I think helped a lot.

Oh and the Christmas special was lovely. Really looking forward to what comes next!

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1341 on: January 02, 2018, 03:56:49 AM »
Even by the end of Tom Baker's first episode, I preferred him to Pertwee. I loved the 3rd Doctor's character on paper, but Pertwee had limited range and didn't do much for me. I didn't dislike him by any means, but I liked Hartnell and Troughton so much more. It also didn't help that most of the 3rd Doctor's stories were really weak and formulaic, with the exception of his final season, which I felt was a noticeable improvement. Since I'm watching this stuff for the first time, I have no opinion of the later Doctors in the classic series yet.

I'm towards the end of Genesis of the Daleks right now, and I've liked every story so far this season. It took me forever to get through the 3rd Doctor's era, but I'm getting through the 4th much faster, because his energy and charisma make it a lot more enjoyable.
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« Reply #1342 on: January 02, 2018, 04:11:50 AM »
Your reactions are very similar to mine, Blob. I similarly found myself more interested during the Baker seasons and got through them a lot faster.

There isn't one Doctor that I dislike at all, and I like the fact that they're all a little different.

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #1343 on: January 02, 2018, 04:15:39 AM »
The only Doctor so far I'd say I don't like is Eccelston, and I've still managed to watch those episodes twice. When you've had so many different people play incarnations of the same character over such a long period, it's likely they're not all going to appeal to everyone equally. Still, they've done a great job overall, and I love most Doctors for what they bring to the table.
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« Reply #1344 on: January 02, 2018, 05:26:06 AM »
I get why a lot of people love Tom Baker version of the Doctor.  I think he was great at the start, and the writing was top notch during that period of the end of Pertwee's era till the middle of the Tom Era.   For me he stayed to long and started to phone in his performance, this coupled with the noticeably weaker writing in his last couple of series made for a somewhat sour ending (also his attitude towards the show and character after he left was pretty bitter).   Even though the writing didn't really improve, i much prefer the early Davidson era over the tail end of the Tom era.

There have been a couple of Doctor's I haven't really like and they would be Hartnell and McCoy.