Author Topic: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton (Read 116449 times)

Scorpion · « **Reply #1050 on:** February 13, 2016, 02:42:31 PM »

Jo has some great moments, but she's one of my least favourite companions all in all. I really like her in Carnival of Monsters and The Curse of Peladon though.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1051 on:** February 13, 2016, 08:19:31 PM »

Quote from: masterthes on February 13, 2016, 10:20:36 AM

What did you think about Jo? It took me a while to warm up to her. She seemed so ditzy when compared to Liz

She bugged me at first, but I think I'll eventually warm to indifference.

I don't know if it's the lack of travelling to other planets, but I don't find the companions/assistants for the 3rd Doctor to be all that interesting yet.

ariich · « **Reply #1052 on:** February 14, 2016, 02:17:15 AM »

Liz was great, smart and a little sarcastic.

Jo was cute, but yeah a bit useless.

Sarah Jane is, of course, awesome.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1053 on:** February 14, 2016, 05:25:03 PM »

Speaking of Sarah Jane and the 3rd Doctor, I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Invasion of the Dinosaurs. It's one of my favourite Classic Who stories ever but I very rarely see it mentioned by anyone. $:\$

ozzy554 · « **Reply #1054 on:** February 14, 2016, 06:38:26 PM »

Quote from: Scorpion on February 14, 2016, 05:25:03 PM

Speaking of Sarah Jane and the 3rd Doctor, I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Invasion of the Dinosaurs. It's one of my favourite Classic Who stories ever but I very rarely see it mentioned by anyone. $:\$

The story itself I remember enjoying. Shame about the actual dinosaurs though.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1055 on:** February 15, 2016, 02:30:32 AM »

Quote from: ozzy554 on February 14, 2016, 06:38:26 PM

Quote from: Scorpion on February 14, 2016, 05:25:03 PM
Speaking of Sarah Jane and the 3rd Doctor, I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Invasion of the Dinosaurs. It's one of my favourite Classic Who stories ever but I very rarely see it mentioned by anyone. $:\$

The story itself I remember enjoying. Shame about the actual dinosaurs though.

They weren't perfect, true, but that kinda comes with the territory of being made in the 70's.

ariich · « **Reply #1056 on:** February 15, 2016, 04:20:36 AM »

Quote from: Scorpion on February 15, 2016, 02:30:32 AM

Quote from: ozzy554 on February 14, 2016, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on February 14, 2016, 05:25:03 PM
Speaking of Sarah Jane and the 3rd Doctor, I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Invasion of the Dinosaurs. It's one of my favourite Classic Who stories ever but I very rarely see it mentioned by anyone. $:\$

The story itself I remember enjoying. Shame about the actual dinosaurs though.

They weren't perfect, true, but that kinda comes with the territory of being made in the 70's on a show with a limited budget.

Fixed.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1057 on:** February 16, 2016, 12:51:30 AM »

I can overlook cheap production values if the story is good. Many of those early Doctor Who episodes were amazing despite all of their limitations.

I just finished The Mind of Evil. Having another Time Lord stuck on Earth made for a fresh addition to The Doctor being exiled, but I thought this was another average story overall. The Master's plan wasn't well thought out again and didn't make a whole lot of sense, and the monster had a few inconsistencies in how it was applied. It had some nice ideas in there though.

ariich · « **Reply #1058 on:** February 16, 2016, 03:02:23 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on February 16, 2016, 12:51:30 AM

plan wasn't well thought out ... didn't make a whole lot of sense ... a few inconsistencies in how it was applied ... some nice ideas in there though.

This sums up my feeling towards quite a lot of the Pertwee era.

I also think that his Doctor isn't nearly as engaging as Troughton or T. Baker - if he had been, it might have been easier to overlook some of the other issues. With the Fourth Doctor, even in the weakest stories, he was written and acted in a such a way that made him hugely enjoyable to watch, even when the story made no sense.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1059 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:47:26 AM »

Yep yep.

Also many Pertwee stories have the unfortunate habits of drawing out a premise that's decent at best across six episodes, which really lowers my appreciation for some of the stories. The worst offenders there, I find is the semi-interconnected story Frontier in Space/Planet of the Daleks, which spans 12 fucking episodes.

That said, there are some real gems in there, like Inferno, The Curse of Peladon, Carnival of Monsters (this is probably Top 5 of Classic Who for me, I love this one) and Invasion of the Dinosaurs.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1060 on:** February 22, 2016, 11:12:12 PM »

The Claws of Axos-

Again a lot of nice ideas, with the execution being a little lacking overall. The fourth episode was by far the best, with the first time I believe we've seen the interior of the TARDIS since the 2nd Doctor, and some cool scifi stuff with The Master and The Doctor using the TARDIS during the latter half of part 4.
The Axons had an interesting look with the bug eyes, didn't like the poop monster form though.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1061 on:** April 10, 2016, 04:15:19 AM »

So, after a short Doctor Who rewatch-athon, I have come to the conclusion that Heaven Sent is my favourite Doctor Who episode of all time. It's just perfect on every level.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1062 on:** April 10, 2016, 04:28:46 AM »

Yeah, that episode is something special. I don't know if it's my favourite episode because there are other episodes I love just as much, but at worst it's top 2 or 3. The story, the directing, the pacing, the music, the whole episode oozes quality.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1063 on:** April 10, 2016, 04:56:50 AM »

Speaking of DW, how is your Classic Series watchthrough going Blob?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1064 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:03:31 AM »

I stalled again a little while ago most of the way through Colony in Space. Nothing wrong with the story itself, it was an improvement having him leave Earth, I think was just getting a bit burned out on that era for now.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1065 on:** April 10, 2016, 08:26:06 AM »

Oh, I definitely understand burn-out on Pertwee stories, but you should definitely keep on it, there's some of the best stuff of the classic series still to come.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1066 on:** April 11, 2016, 11:15:57 AM »

I'll definitely be getting back to it some time, I just needed a break. There's so much I'm excited to see coming up though, including many of the 3rd Doctor's stories, and of course I have the entire run of Tom Baker to look forward to!

Scorpion · « **Reply #1067 on:** April 11, 2016, 01:50:53 PM »

I think Season 9 is a pretty big rut, so you'll have to trudge through that (though it does have The Curse of Peladon, which I like a fair bit), but after that things pick up quite a bit. Season 10 has what is probably my favourite Classic Who - or certainly Top 5 - story with Carnival of Monsters.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1068 on:** April 12, 2016, 03:11:34 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 11, 2016, 11:15:57 AM

I'll definitely be getting back to it some time, I just needed a break. There's so much I'm excited to see coming up though, including many of the 3rd Doctor's stories, and of course I have the entire run of Tom Baker to look forward to!

And the entire run of Colin Baker to "look forward" to !!

Peter Davison is a good Doctor too.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1069 on:** April 12, 2016, 11:23:40 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 12, 2016, 03:11:34 PM

Peter Davison is a good Doctor too.

Sorry Kotow, I don't watch Doctor Too, I watch Doctor Who.

I don't have an opinion one way or another on most of the later Doctors yet, although wearing celery and something to do with cricket turns me off him.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1070 on:** April 13, 2016, 03:30:45 PM »

When I was tiny - Davison was my 2nd favourite Doctor after Tom Baker.

Scorpion · « **Reply #1071 on:** April 14, 2016, 11:15:45 AM »

Not sure how controversial this is, but I actually prefer Colin Baker to Peter Davison, even though Davison's stories were a lot better for the most part - I just find his pretty campy acting style to be a lot of fun, and Davison was always too much of a wet blanket for me, though he's great in The Caves of Androzani, for instance.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1072 on:** April 14, 2016, 04:18:03 PM »

Scorpion · « **Reply #1073 on:** April 14, 2016, 04:18:52 PM »

Oh yeah, also a reason why the first Davison season is basically worthless.

Seriously, fuck Adric. Worst companion by a lightyear.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1074 on:** April 14, 2016, 04:29:02 PM »

look at his little face.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1075 on:** April 21, 2016, 10:38:07 AM »

The new companion is being announced on Saturday. I'm hoping for a black midget, just to mix things up a little.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1076 on:** April 21, 2016, 10:41:44 AM »

It's bound to be female isn't it ?

You have to make sure everyone knows The Doctor has " a case of the not-gays " as they say on RLM.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1077 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:17:25 AM »

Pearl Mackie as Bill

Seems to be a girl from the 80s? Looks like a Donna type personality, slightly annoying from the short clip posted, but I expect the character to come on a bit strong at first. I didn't like Donna at first either, but she ended up being great. I was hoping for something a bit more different, but I'm fine with this. Sucks to have to wait so long to see some new episodes.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1078 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:36:47 AM »

I'm not familiar.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1079 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:37:46 AM »

Neither am I. Here's the teaser clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbMmsShghT4

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1080 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:56:46 AM »

Daleks again ?!

I know they're a famous DW villain / species but it would be like having Khan keep cropping up in Star Trek.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1081 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:03:55 PM »

Yeah. I do love the Daleks, but there are so many other ideas to explore too.
I've heard repeatedly that the BBC need to use the Daleks every year by contractual obligation or something to do with the rights to the Daleks, but I don't know if that's just internet rumour.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1082 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:05:47 PM »

Who else would have the rights ?

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1083 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:06:05 PM »

Invent a new type of Dalek called Kaled.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1084 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:12:16 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 23, 2016, 12:05:47 PM

Who else would have the rights ?

Terry Nation owned the rights to the Daleks, as he wrote their first stories and created them (seems things worked differently back then), and I guess his estate owns the rights now? Every episode featuring the Daleks still includes a mention of him in the end credits. Terry nation wanted to take the Daleks elsewhere back in the day, which is why they were killed off in Evil of the Daleks and didn't appear again for several years. I don't know what the deal has been since.

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 23, 2016, 12:06:05 PM

Invent a new type of Dalek called Kaled.

Kaleds are already a thing.

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Author Topic: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton (Read 116449 times)