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What are your three favorite Opeth records?

Orchid
7 (1.1%)
Morningrise
15 (2.3%)
My Arms, Your Hearse
26 (4%)
Still Life
81 (12.3%)
Blackwater Park
161 (24.5%)
Deliverance
43 (6.5%)
Damnation
53 (8.1%)
Ghost Reveries
152 (23.1%)
Watershed
66 (10%)
Heritage
21 (3.2%)
Pale Communion
32 (4.9%)

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1155 on: February 16, 2017, 12:24:36 PM »
The recent setlist looks awesome. :drool:

I really hope they don't change anything for their upcoming US dates.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1156 on: February 16, 2017, 01:27:08 PM »
That's a really good set.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1157 on: February 17, 2017, 12:01:23 AM »
The recent setlist looks awesome. :drool:

I really hope they don't change anything for their upcoming US dates.
They played pretty much the same set in the US last fall, so they might change it up a bit in order to avoid repetition.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1158 on: February 17, 2017, 11:56:00 AM »
Does anyone find A Fair Judgements solo to be one of the best if not the best Opeth solo to date? It's really amazing.

And the outro. That outro is really sick. It's like the ultimate game over or armageddon. Does anyone think that also?

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1159 on: February 17, 2017, 12:05:15 PM »
Here is my review of the recent show at the Sydney Opera House;

Yes Opeth’s highly anticipated gig at the world famous Sydney Opera House.
Their 4th and final special night of Opeth’s 'Sorceress, Damnation and Deliverance' played during the current world tour.

Until two weeks ago I was not going to this sold out show, but I just happened to arrange to meet a complete stranger (arranged through MP.com forum) on the night, hand over $150AU (the most expensive concert ticket I’ve ever purchased) and viola!

I had no idea about the setlist, though I was secretly praying that the boring retro 1970’s prog rock from the last 3 albums would be kept to a minimum.

I surprised myself by how much I enjoyed the newer material, given that when Opeth played here 2 years ago I walked out halfway though.

The sound was pretty good, but what really stood out was MA clean vocals, they sounded magnificent, the acoustics of the venue made his voice sore to heights that I have never heard before.
His growls however were not so good, buried very low in the mix, it was obvious that he had lost a lot of power, and for most almost inaudible, with the music drowning them out. Whether this was deliberate, I don’t know, but I would guess yes it was?

MA was in fine form, clean vocals, guitar playing and of course his legendary in between song banter and interaction with the crowd.
The rest of the band sounded pretty good, Frederik got a couple of solo’s, Mendez bass was inaudible all night and Axe drumming was ferocious.

All up a great night, possibly the first ever (death) metal band to play the Sydney Opera House, definitely the first death metal growls ever heard in the hallowed halls.

Setlist:

Sorceress
Ghost of Perdition
Demon of the Fall
The Wilde Flowers
Face of Melinda
The Devil's Orchard
Cusp of Eternity
Heir Apparent
The Drapery Falls

Windowpane
Death Whispered a Lullaby
Mikael then joked about Steven Wilson's lyric royalties and played the intro of 'Storm Corrosion'
In My Time of Need
Closure

Master's Apprentices
By the Pain I See in Others
Deliverance

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1160 on: February 17, 2017, 01:19:27 PM »
Does anyone find A Fair Judgements solo to be one of the best if not the best Opeth solo to date? It's really amazing.

And the outro. That outro is really sick. It's like the ultimate game over or armageddon. Does anyone think that also?

I am new to Opeth, but I had the Deliverance cd in the truck yesterday and love  A Fair Judgement.  The Opeth music has such great atmosphere.  When I see them in May it will be just me going.  I passed on taking the wife since she is mostly country and classic rock.  Of course I am kind of old and the show starts at 8:30( my bedtime), but will take off work the next day.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1161 on: February 17, 2017, 08:46:07 PM »
A Fair Judgement has incredible guitar solos. The tradeoff is also very Iron Maiden esque. The outro is probably the closest they've gotten to doom metal? Great stuff.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1162 on: May 20, 2017, 07:21:21 AM »
Page 6?  Damn.

I tried listening to Sorceress recently, but in addition to the sound of it pissing me off (bass is way too loud), the songs are just boring. 

On the other hand, I am listening to Pale Communion as I type this, which is just as great as ever.  Love this record.  :hat

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1163 on: May 20, 2017, 03:12:44 PM »
I know it's not a popular opinion, but I'm actually a big fan of the last 3 Opeth albums. I've grown to like Sorceress more over the last few months. Seeing them live twice since it came out helped, as all the new songs they played were excellent. The highlight of both shows was definitely Mikael's vocals though. His growling isn't very good any more, but his clean vocals seem to be the best they've ever been to me.

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« Reply #1164 on: May 22, 2017, 06:03:33 PM »
I'll take your word for it.  The end of The Wilde Flowers is a good example of how much the song of the album sucks. The overpowering bass makes it sound like nothing but noise, and honestly I am at the point where I am not putting up with CDs that have significant sound issues unless it is a really great album.  Which that album is not.

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« Reply #1165 on: May 24, 2017, 08:11:24 PM »
That seems a bit harsh, but I guess we can agree to disagree. I've never considered myself an audiophile and I am not a musician, so I guess ignorance is bliss. The album doesn't sound perfect to me but I don't have that much of an issue with the sound.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1166 on: May 25, 2017, 12:03:12 AM »
Opeth announced a show at Finlandia-talo in Helsinki, which is not your average metal venue. I wonder if Mikael has a checklist of all these prestigious places where he wants to play before calling it quits. :P

Speaking of that, am I the only one who has a feeling Opeth might not be around for too long anymore or at least not as active as right now? Mikael seems so bored in interviews, and he's talking about how much he misses his kids on the road and how he wants to start a record store. Maybe he's just going through a rough time and it'll get better, but I wouldn't be surprised if Opeth announced a hiatus/breakup or started to wind down a little bit.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1167 on: May 25, 2017, 12:20:54 AM »
Mikael went through a divorce recently too, didn't he?

I also have the same feeling. He really seems bored.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1168 on: May 25, 2017, 12:39:32 AM »
Mikael went through a divorce recently too, didn't he?
Whoa, really?

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1169 on: May 25, 2017, 01:01:49 AM »
Mikael went through a divorce recently too, didn't he?
Whoa, really?

https://thequietus.com/articles/20946-opeth-mikael-akerfeldt-interview

"Although markedly different from those albums, Sorceress has something of the mood and tone of that work, driven by Åkerfeldt’s personal experience, including a recent divorce, more than a reflective, authored distance."
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1170 on: May 25, 2017, 01:03:34 AM »
I had absolutely no idea.  :omg:

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1171 on: May 25, 2017, 06:21:16 PM »
Sounds like it's time for another Storm Corrosion record. :tup :tup

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1172 on: May 25, 2017, 07:09:13 PM »
Sounds like it's time for another Storm Corrosion record. :tup :tup

Honestly I bet Mikael would be happy as hell to make an album like that again. Not sure if Steven would be up for that style now, seeing as how his latest solo material seems to have shifted to a more modern prog style than the "old school" throwback style he was dabbling with when he made Storm Corrosion and then The Raven That Refused to Sing.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1173 on: May 25, 2017, 09:38:04 PM »
I wouldn't have a problem with Mikael taking a break from Opeth and doing other things. He's mentioned folk albums before and I'd love to see him do more music with SW. There's really a lot more he could be doing and, frankly, the death metal stuff isn't sounding great live lately. Combine that with Sorceress being one of the weaker albums they've done and it seems like Opeth risks going stale. I'd like to see Mikael go in a different direction for awhile.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1174 on: May 25, 2017, 10:37:27 PM »
I wouldn't have a problem with Mikael taking a break from Opeth and doing other things. He's mentioned folk albums before and I'd love to see him do more music with SW. There's really a lot more he could be doing and, frankly, the death metal stuff isn't sounding great live lately. Combine that with Sorceress being one of the weaker albums they've done and it seems like Opeth risks going stale. I'd like to see Mikael go in a different direction for awhile.

I get the feeling that he only plays some of the death metal live nowadays because he knows it would piss off too many fans if he didn't.  He's not giving the metal fans any new death metal stuff, but they are at least still getting some of it live, and he has to know that a percentage of fans would drop from the crowds if he stopped playing them altogether.

Sounds like it's time for another Storm Corrosion record. :tup :tup

Honestly I bet Mikael would be happy as hell to make an album like that again. Not sure if Steven would be up for that style now, seeing as how his latest solo material seems to have shifted to a more modern prog style than the "old school" throwback style he was dabbling with when he made Storm Corrosion and then The Raven That Refused to Sing.

SW is pretty good at bouncing from sound to sound in a short period of time. The new Blackfield album is nothing like his recent solo albums, for example. 

Besides, there is no rule that says a second Storm Corrosion album would have to be similar to the first.  :coolio

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1175 on: May 26, 2017, 02:34:28 AM »
Mikael went through a divorce recently too, didn't he?
Whoa, really?

https://thequietus.com/articles/20946-opeth-mikael-akerfeldt-interview

"Although markedly different from those albums, Sorceress has something of the mood and tone of that work, driven by Åkerfeldt’s personal experience, including a recent divorce, more than a reflective, authored distance."
He actually got divorced as far back as 2011: https://teamrock.com/feature/2016-10-04/love-loss-and-learning-to-move-on-the-story-behind-opeths-sorceress

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1176 on: May 26, 2017, 05:52:13 AM »
Would ove for Mikael and Opeth to bring back the heavy and death metal sound back with clean vocals.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1177 on: May 26, 2017, 05:59:54 AM »
Poor man, that year must've been rough for him - he had to deal with his marriage falling apart and the vocal backlash following Heritage.

Perhaps his wife disliked Heritage as much as some fans :lol
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« Reply #1178 on: May 26, 2017, 05:01:32 PM »
Okay, I gave Sorceress another whirl and remembered that the majority of the album sounds fine.  It's bizarre how they cranked the shit out of the bass for three songs (title track, The Wilde Flowers and Chrysalis), and then everything else sounds fine.  Weird.

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« Reply #1179 on: May 26, 2017, 05:41:33 PM »
I haven't seen a lot of praise for Strange Brew, but I think it's one of their best songs from the last 3 albums. It took me longer to digest this album than Heritage and Pale Communion, but it's really clicking with me now and I think it's pretty underrated based off of the reactions I've seen.

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« Reply #1180 on: May 26, 2017, 09:11:59 PM »
I haven't seen a lot of praise for Strange Brew, but I think it's one of their best songs from the last 3 albums. It took me longer to digest this album than Heritage and Pale Communion, but it's really clicking with me now and I think it's pretty underrated based off of the reactions I've seen.

Strange Brew is a great song. Definitely the best off of Sorceress

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« Reply #1181 on: May 27, 2017, 05:11:16 AM »
Strange brew took me a while. Still not one of my favorites on the album, but I appreciate some dark elements of it, such as the chilling intro and an extremely unsettling ending. Not to mention Mikael's aggressive vocal moments are remarkable.

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« Reply #1182 on: May 27, 2017, 06:21:55 AM »
I think the bonus tracks, The Ward and Spring MCMLXXIV, are two of the best from the whole thing. From the proper album, Strange Brew is good, but I probably like Will O The Wisp, The Seventh Sojourn and Era the most.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1183 on: May 31, 2017, 09:48:54 PM »
Been on an Opeth kick lately, and I think My Arms Your Hearse just stole the top spot from Still Life for me. :metal :hefdaddy

I think part of it might be the shorter running time and (relatively) more compact epics. I love SL and BWP, but there's a certain tightness to MAYH that they don't have. Not to mention that incredibly spooky, unsettling tone the album and its concept has. It might not be the poetic Shakespearian tragedy that SL's narrative is, but the story would make for one hell of an Edgar Allen Poe tale.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1184 on: June 01, 2017, 09:55:07 AM »
Okay, I gave Sorceress another whirl and remembered that the majority of the album sounds fine.  It's bizarre how they cranked the shit out of the bass for three songs (title track, The Wilde Flowers and Chrysalis), and then everything else sounds fine.  Weird.

The way I see it, I think they were just going for that dirty, sticky sound. A bit of an homage to really old records where the technology wasn't quite there yet.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Sorceress
« Reply #1185 on: June 09, 2017, 11:21:09 PM »
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/opeths_akerfeldt_working_on_project_with_devin_townsend_every_band_member_must_be_a_lead_vocalist.html

Opeth's Akerfeldt Working on Project With Devin Townsend: Every Band Member Must Be a Lead Vocalist
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« Reply #1186 on: June 10, 2017, 04:13:52 AM »
Nice. I hope something good comes out of it.

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« Reply #1187 on: June 10, 2017, 08:57:56 AM »
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/opeths_akerfeldt_working_on_project_with_devin_townsend_every_band_member_must_be_a_lead_vocalist.html

Opeth's Akerfeldt Working on Project With Devin Townsend: Every Band Member Must Be a Lead Vocalist
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« Reply #1188 on: June 10, 2017, 12:00:41 PM »
Wow, that would be awesome!

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« Reply #1189 on: June 10, 2017, 01:33:46 PM »
Maybe Gildenlöv as the other swede?