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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #525 on: August 05, 2014, 09:20:17 PM »
My first impressions were that this felt like Ghost, but with less layers and darker. And, to be honest, I fell that Ghost has more country than this :lol. It was a good listen, gill give it more attention.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #526 on: August 05, 2014, 09:58:12 PM »
Casualties feels more bluesy to me.
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #527 on: August 05, 2014, 10:26:56 PM »
I still don't have casualties almost 3 months later :T

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #528 on: August 05, 2014, 10:32:13 PM »
Hm...

I should come up with an order of albums by Devin Townsend to introduce a pop/rock/country fan so that they might eventually enjoy even the heaviest of his albums.

For instance, a country fan would enjoy Casualties first, then Ghost, then maybe Ki, etc. etc. going in order from lightest to heaviest, so you could introduce anyone to Devin Townsend and maybe have them enjoy it. Kind of an interesting idea.
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #529 on: August 07, 2014, 04:49:49 PM »
What will become of this thread when Z2 and DTP #6 come out? Will there be any big analysis and discussion here?

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« Reply #530 on: August 07, 2014, 04:55:52 PM »
So, uh, did we rank the albums discussed in this thread yet?  Seems like the right time to do it, now that we're caught up (until the next one comes out).  I can't rank Casualties yet...still too soon.  But as for the rest...

1 Terria
2 Addicted
3 Ocean Machine
4 Epicloud
5 Ghost
6 Infinity
7 Synchestra
8 Ki
9 Deconstruction
10 Ziltoid
11 Acceleration Evolution
12 Physicist

It's a mark of how good most of his stuff is that an album as strong as AE is only my 11th favorite out of 12.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #531 on: August 07, 2014, 05:18:24 PM »
Ranking the ones I have

Ki
Ocean Machine
Terria
Deconstruction
Ghost
Addicted
Epicloud
Ziltoid
Synchestra
Infinity

Though honestly, there's not a lot of space between them, the only one I'm not really crazy about is Infinity. It's a bit early for Casualties, but right now, it'd probably be in between Ghost and Decon.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #532 on: August 07, 2014, 06:09:56 PM »
Oh my, it's that time already?
I figured we would wait until the closing update. :lol

1: Deconstruction
2: Addicted
3: Epicloud
4: Ki
5: Accelerated Evolution
6: Ocean Machine: Biomech
7: Terria
8-9: Ghost / Casualties Of Cool (still too soon to decide between the two)
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11: Synchestra
12: Infinity
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #533 on: August 07, 2014, 07:03:00 PM »
Awesome Stuff

Ocean Machine
Infinity
Addicted!
Epicloud
Ghost


Interesting

Terria
Accelerated Evolution
Casualties of Cool
Deconstruction


Not-so-good/boring

Ki
Physicist
Synchestra
Ziltoid


These last ones are tied, because they bore me enough to give them a proper listen :lol

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #534 on: August 07, 2014, 07:34:55 PM »
What will become of this thread when Z2 and DTP #6 come out? Will there be any big analysis and discussion here?

I'm guessing Ulti will do a separate thread. It'll probably take us a while to really let it sink in, and probably even longer for Ulti to truly see into it's soul hole. I wouldn't wanna rush something like this anyway.

I can't WAIT till it does release though.

I'm sure most of you know I don't like rankings anymore but I can give a general outline of what my absolute favorites are; the ones that my bipolar self won't change in a day's (or less) time.

Ocean Machine, Epicloud (I also count Epiclouder in this), Accelerated Evolution, Casualties of Cool, and Ki will always be my favorite DT albums. They're the ones that initially blew my world open and continue to do so. Especially Epicloud/er, those albums are definitely the ones that benefited the most from these discussions for me, without a doubt. It was fun and definitely insightful! I look forward to becoming addicted and discussing Z2 vs. DTP.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #535 on: August 08, 2014, 01:26:44 AM »
Pfff.... ranking these albums is so hard...

1. Ki
2. Ocean Machine: Biomech
3. Deconstruction
4. Casualties of Cool
5. Terria

6. Infinity
7. Accelerated Evolution
8. Ghost
9. Epicloud
10. Synchestra
11. Ziltoid the Omniscient
12. Addicted


13. Physicist

I'm really bad at ranking albums, and as a result 1-5 may swap from time to time, as may 6-12 :P

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #536 on: August 08, 2014, 02:17:06 AM »
Casualties feels more bluesy to me.

There's maybe country tropes in the guitar playing here and there, but the production and the vocal delivery is far removed from the country music I know (though being British I don't know that much...).

I like Casualties, but I could do without the second half of Pier, the second half of Deathscope, the whole of Hejda and the whole of Pure - i.e. anything where it's primarily atmospherics rather than a song. However, the album was almost worth the money just for Bones alone.

As for rankings:

1. Terria
2. Addicted
3. Ziltoid
4. Ki
5. Deconstruction
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6. Epicloud
6= Ocean Machine
6= Physicist
6= Infinity
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10. Casualties
11. Accelerated Evolution
12. Ghost
13. Synchestra

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #537 on: August 08, 2014, 03:21:22 PM »
Oh my, it's that time already?
I figured we would wait until the closing update. :lol
That was the idea, but hey fire away. I'll just post mine on the 10th and wrap it up.

What will become of this thread when Z2 and DTP #6 come out? Will there be any big analysis and discussion here?

I'm guessing Ulti will do a separate thread. It'll probably take us a while to really let it sink in, and probably even longer for Ulti to truly see into it's soul hole. I wouldn't wanna rush something like this anyway.
Eh, I dunno. I might post a review in here after it's been out for a while and I've truly dissected every single note, but I may end up just posting that in the general Devin thread.
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #538 on: August 08, 2014, 06:16:28 PM »
1. Terria
2. Ocean Machine
3. Synchestra
4. Addicted
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5. Deconstruction
6. Ki
7. Accelerated Evolution
8. Epicloud
9. Infinity
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10. Ziltoid
11. Casualties of Cool
12. Ghost
13. Physicist

Something like that.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #539 on: August 09, 2014, 01:00:54 AM »
For those who like the ghost-y, more atmospheric stuff, I thought this was absolutely beautiful: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AetYZ4Tzzk&list=UU8KIhclVaK0Des9uMrJlt1w
It's from Devin's youtube channel. There's a lot of interesting stuff there  ;)

Also, www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBXQI2FLEu0&index=86&list=UU8KIhclVaK0Des9uMrJlt1w

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From the albums I own:
1.Deconstruction
2.Terria
3.AE
4.Addicted
5.Infinity
6.Epicloud/-er

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #540 on: August 09, 2014, 05:39:49 AM »
Well... I didn't know any Devy (outside of a couple of songs I heard on ProgNation at Sea) before this.  But because of this thread I've purchased:

Infinity
Terria
Accelerated Evolution
Synchestra

And will be purchasing Addicted.

So, mission accomplished I suppose.
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #541 on: August 09, 2014, 06:09:02 AM »
Just finished Casualties of Cool.  Very nice, definitely un-Devin-ish. 

But there's plenty of country-ish stuff there.  It's not reminiscent of what passes for country currently (which is mostly just pop with a Southern accent), but the drum patterns played with brushes and guitar patterns SCREAM classic country.  The comment about Johnny Cash definitely rings true, as regards that stuff.

Anyway, fantastic album.  This guy can apparently do anything.
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #542 on: August 09, 2014, 11:21:02 AM »
I'm missing 3 albums:

1. Epicloud/er
2. Addicted
3. Ocean Machine
4. Casualties of Cool
5. Ki
6. Ziltoid
7. Synchestra
8. Ghost
9. Deconstruction
10. Accelerated

I enjoy them all so this means nothing. 
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #543 on: August 09, 2014, 01:38:25 PM »
God Tier
Ghost
Deconstruction
Epicloud(er)
Ki

Awesome Tier
Addicted
Casualties of Cool
Ziltoid
Accelerated Evolution

Pretty Good Tier
Terria
Ocean Machine

Poop Tier
Physicist
 
Still haven't heard yet
Synchestra
Infinity
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #544 on: August 09, 2014, 01:51:42 PM »
1. Terria
2. Ocean Machine: Biomech
3. Ki
4. Casualties of Cool
5. Epicloud+Epiclouder
6. Addicted
7. Infinity
8. Accelerated Evolution
9. Ghost
10. Synchestra
11. Deconstruction
12. Ziltoid the Omniscient
13. Physicist

That was hard. Anything up to Deconstruction I'd call at least a "good album", with ZTO and Physicist being the only ones of his albums that I'd call "meh" or worse.
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #545 on: August 09, 2014, 08:16:16 PM »
Oh my fuckin COD, PROG! HOW COULD YOU!? The ocean...it will swallow you.



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No but really I can't imagine anyone thinking that Ocean Machine is anything but the biggest and perkiest of tits. And they make you toasted ham and cheese sandwiches.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. And so it goes
« Reply #546 on: August 09, 2014, 11:33:39 PM »
Terria and Ocean Machine both being called just "pretty good" looks pretty goofy to me, too, but to each his own, right?  Most of his albums are so damn good that it's inevitable that some will prefer some of the others.   :metal

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« Reply #547 on: August 10, 2014, 09:06:09 AM »
Well, it's been quite a journey indeed. Finally, we've come to a close. I'm very happy with all the people who have just now been exposed to the awesomeness of Devy. I find myself wishing I would have put some sort of ranking at the beginning of the thread to see if all the relistening and writing changed my opinions at all, but I didn't. Oh well.

1. Deconstruction
2. Addicted
3. Ocean Machine: Biomech
4. Infinity
5. Terria
6. Ki
7. Accelerated Evolution
8. Synchestra
9. Epicloud
10. Casualties of Cool
11. Ghost
12. Ziltoid
13. Physicist

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« Reply #548 on: August 10, 2014, 02:53:30 PM »
Thanks for the journey, UM!
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. Welcome Home Ladies and Gentlemen
« Reply #549 on: August 11, 2014, 11:29:15 AM »
Thanks for this thread Ultimetalhead!!  :hefdaddy

I'm still following your write-ups as I have time to listen to albums. I haven't been commenting because, well, I'm so far back that it would be out of context at this point. Now that the tread is done though, I may offer my opinion as I develop them.

You really set a high benchmark for this format. Thanks again!
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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. Dancing all into whatever
« Reply #550 on: August 17, 2014, 04:59:10 AM »
They're itunes exclusive bonus tracks. Take My Ego is way worth it.

And not so exclusively available on Spotify.
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« Reply #551 on: August 17, 2014, 06:43:15 AM »
Still needs some SYL and Punky.

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Re: Devin Townsend Discography v. 'Cause there is always time...
« Reply #552 on: June 01, 2016, 06:07:40 AM »
Back from the deaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddd.............

Okay so since Z2's been out for almost two years, I feel like I can write about it with as little bias as possible now that my feelings about it have finally settled down, so here we go.



Before its release, Z2 was subject to the highest level of hype I've ever witnessed for a new Devy album. And frankly, why the hell not? Ziltoid was single-handedly responsible for introducing a multitude of fans to the world of Townsend with its endlessly quotable dialogue and musical-like structure. While I don't really think Ziltoid holds up all that well today, it's still a fine album with a lot of nice songs, and the dialogue has actually aged better than the music (which seems backwards). People were fired up for more antics from the zany coffee-loving alien with more of the presumably psychotic music. I know my mental image of the Ziltoid portion of Z2 was basically Deconstruction with less orchestration and more Ziltoid. Sounds great, bring it.

And then we found out it would be a double album! How could one possibly handle 2 discs full of Ziltoid? We wouldn't have to. Turned out, the first disc would be another album in the vein of Addicted and Epicloud. Definitely nothing wrong with that. It's a little weird that Devin was going to basically go back to back to back with similar stylistic inclination, but fine. We're all here for Ziltoid anyway, right?

So here we are. Z2 is upon us. Split into two halves: A DTP album called Sky Blue and a Ziltoid album called Dark Matters (a song from Ghost, which always kind of bothered me because I'm petty). Not to speak for the whole group, but I feel like most people felt that Sky Blue didn't do enough to set itself apart from the previous 2 "catchy pop metal" albums, and the Ziltoid portion was just kind of a flop altogether. And honestly, it's kind of hard to disagree with that. I'm going to attempt to analyze it as a piece of the discography, while also attempting to explain why it may have been poorly received. We'll hit them both separately as they are very separate beasts.



To get my opinion out of the way first, I think Sky Blue is awesome. It's full of majestic, swooping brilliance with some real heaviness to back up the melodies. The atmosphere and "scope" of the thing is one area where it really succeeds. There are parts of Sky Blue that are absolutely monumental. The bridge of A New Reign gets stuck in my head constantly, Midnight Sun comes close to Synchestra territory, and Before We Die might be my favorite chorus in his entire line of work. Even the soft songs towards the end work a lot better than their counterparts from the past. Forever is much more memorable than a song like Divine. Having an interesting chord progression certainly helps. And I really love how it flows into Before We Die.

On the opposite side, I think Rain City is kind of a dud, which is a major bummer considering it takes up 8 minutes of the album's relatively short runtime. And I also think it flows like absolute piss. He stacked all the exciting, uptempo songs at the beginning, leaving the last four songs to plod along at practically the same tempo. Before We Die is plenty epic on its own, but imagine how much more impact it would have if Rain City was cut in half or didn't exist at all. Sky Blue was already at risk of becoming the forgotten other half of Z2, but its lack of album flow really cemented its permanent status as a collection of B-sides from Epicloud. And the actual collection of B-sides from Epicloud had better flow. Really weird.

Again, I love these songs. I think they suffer from an unfortunate release time. If these songs came out before Addicted or Epicloud they would probably be life-changing. But there's just nothing new or particularly exciting to a seasoned fan. Now for the really bad news. Remember earlier where I said Sky Blue might become the forgotten half of Z2?



Man, what happened here? I think most people would agree this was actually a pretty colossal letdown. I tried to defend it as long as I could, but it's become apparent that Dark Matters just isn't that great. And when I think of Z2, I think of Sky Blue. The alien doesn't even cross my mind. That's kind of terrifying. Let's be clear, I still like this album. Some of the songs are quite good. But if you treat this as a single entity without Sky Blue to prop it up, it rivals Physicist for its sheer mediocrity.

Treating this like a musical, there's usually a story component and a music component, and it's usually way too fucking long. Fortunately, Dark Matters is a rather brief one. The story tries really hard to capture the absurdism and charm of the first Ziltoid, but it feels like it's trying a bit too hard. It starts off fine; Ziltoid steals a child from a massively dangerous alien and causes universal war. Sweet. From Wandering Eye forward, everything gets really stupid. I mean, Ziltoid's story in the original was massively contrived and nonsensical, but at least it had the cop out of it being a dream at the end. Dark Matters has no such cop out. It resolves itself very haphazardly with more things that make zero sense (MY BROTHAAAAA). But that's fine, we're here for the music right?

Oh dear. The music's not very good either. Certainly not enough to make up for the lackluster story. Again, there are some serious bright spots. The trio of War Princess, Deathray, and March of the Poozers is awesome, heavy, and exactly what we've come to expect from a heavy Devin Townsend album in the 2010s. And these are the songs where the story is least cringe-inducing. The rest of it is very forgettable. The intro drags along with brief flashes of brilliance (the mid-section of Ziltoidian Empire). And everything after March of the Poozers is so riddled with dialogue that it's impossible for the music to get anything accomplished. You'd think this would be fixed by listening to the raw version with no dialogue, but it's still not anything amazing. Dimension Z is a fine enough closing hymn, but the damage is done by this point.

Alright, so why? There's nothing really inherently BAD about anything I've said above. It's still a Devin Townsend album with all the trademarks therein. And it's a sequel to an album about a coffee-addicted sock puppet. What were we expecting? Philosophic brilliance? A monumental epic for the ages?

Of course we were! Ziltoid's cult following has exploded to a point where there was no way anything could ever live up to it. It was absolutely perfect for what it was, and a sequel should have never happened. The story was tied up beautifully. It wasn't open for any kind of expansion, and it just didn't need it. I'm about to go into a pretty long, heady rant about why it fails, so if you're not interested in an essay on THE GREATER IMPLICATIONS OF ART IN THE 21ST CENTURY then skip the fuck ahead past these next 2 paragraphs.

Here's the thing about art. It's no longer about what's pretty or interesting to the general public. Visual art has long abandoned that concept, and we're getting there on music as well. The only way you can analyze art anymore is with the following question: "Does the artist achieve their goal?" Obviously, you have to understand what the artist's goal is first. And that's why modern art is lost on most people. The question has to morph from "What the holy shit am I looking at/listening to?" to "Why do I feel this way and why did the person that created this monstrosity WANT me to feel this way?" If we can't decipher the artist's goal, bad art. If we can decipher the artist's goal and don't perceive the intended effect, bad art. Z2 falls into the latter category. The original Ziltoid had the benefit of a crucial artistic element: surprise. Ziltoid came out of nowhere. Devin's concept with Ziltoid was to do absolutely everything himself, and we got a cool story about an alien drinking coffee (which actually is a major allegory for the music industry and where Devin's live was at the time). He gave no shits and lived above Earth in a big rocketship. Goal achieved, brilliantly even. Ziltoid is in my bottom half of Devy albums, but it's still wonderful for what it is.

Now comes sequel-time! The kiss of perma-death for every art form. Now there's an expectation on both sides. Fans are expecting brilliance, and (warning I'm about to put words in the mouth of an artist which is bad but hear me out) Devin may well be expecting to be able to put out whatever he wants and have instant, permanent praise just for bearing the Ziltoid name. This rarely works out well. I'm not at all insinuating that Devy "phoned it in" or anything. I'm definitely insinuating that the expectations were completely unreachable. At the same time, there's quite a number of artistic missteps at play here. Dark Matters has barely any of the charm that made the original Ziltoid so great. And it has everything to do with the environment of its creation. ZTO was a very angry album. Devin was at wits end with having to do SYL even though he wasn't feeling the rage anymore, the DTB was permanently entrenched as SYL's little brother, and he was facing the crash that inevitably led to his sobriety. That's a lot of life happening all at once, and Ziltoid reflects it all perfectly. Things are a lot better now, which is great for him, but not so great for creating a sequel to an album that was made under drastically different circumstances. It's not Devin's fault in any way, shape, or form, but that's what happened. And the result is a pretty mediocre offering in a consistently excellent discography.

Wow, sorry about that. I really needed to let that out. Z2 is a decent album let down by astronomical expectations and rather unfortunate timing. Both discs suffer from the "more of the same" disease and while many of the individual songs stand out, the flow is almost non-existent for both sides. It's very okay.

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« Reply #553 on: June 01, 2016, 06:22:35 AM »
I... basically agree with everything that you wrote. Dark Matters is really just shockingly mediocre. I would have ranked it below Physicist if it didn't have the saving grace of March of the Poozers and War Princess.

Sky Blue is pretty awesome, though. I do agree that it's impact is lessened by the fact that it's the third in a string of similar-sounding albums, but all the songs range from good to amazing. I do really like Rain City though and the flow doesn't really bother me at all - I like how it begins with so much energy and then gradually winds down. It probably helps that the 1-2 punch of Forever / Before We Die is probably among the best in Devin's discography.
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« Reply #554 on: June 01, 2016, 07:10:52 AM »
Sky Blue is a pretty good album, on equal standings with Addicted and Epicloud.
I agree with pretty much everything you said about Dark Matters, except that I absolutely despise Deathray and like the Earth - Ziltoid Goes Home duo the most.

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« Reply #555 on: June 01, 2016, 08:24:39 AM »
I found both of these to be rather forgettable and mediocre releases  :corn

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« Reply #556 on: June 01, 2016, 08:29:45 AM »
Really didn't care much for either, but I prefer Dark Matters by a small amount. Sky Blue really just feels like Dev said "well....this formula works, guess I'll just keep doing it over again". Dark Matters had some pretty cool musical moments, but the awful dialogue, lyrics and story just ruin it for me.
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« Reply #557 on: June 01, 2016, 08:47:17 AM »
Z2 should have just been the Dark Matters disc and nothing else. Sky Blue should have been released last year to hold us over until Transcendence this year.

I loved Dark Matters at first and the songs do kick ass in a live setting(especially Poozers and ZGH) but it hasn't aged well for me. It does feel like Devin kinda forced himself to make the record and it shows especially in the plot of the story.(which seems like something my 5 year old cousin could write in 10 minutes) I'm not expecting a Battlestar Galactica or anything but I think he could have done better.
Musicwise, there's nothing that surprises me on the record. Even on my first listen I thought, "This sounds like typical Devin." I didn't even think there was such a thing as "Typical Devin", and it kinda disappointed me.
There are some great moments(the buildup in Earth, and Dimension Z) but there's nothing really new and nothing that makes me go "Holy Shit!" like Deconstruction or Z1 did.

Sky Blue on the other hand is great at some points, but it feels like Addicted and Epicloud's younger brother who desperately wants to be like his older brothers. There's too much open space in some parts of the record, mainly on the last half of the album, where the ambient outros go on forever. You could have fit at least 2 more songs on the album if you cut that out.

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« Reply #558 on: June 01, 2016, 08:58:49 AM »
Totally agree with most of that.

Ziltoid (the first) had a story that was goofy and silly on a surface level, but was quite clearly about Dev's musical history, feelings of inadequacy and so forth. An oddly personal album for him.

Dark Matters is the goofy silly stuff but has nothing going on beneath it. 
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« Reply #559 on: June 01, 2016, 09:42:21 AM »
I really like Sky Blue. However, I think Dark Matters has a few very good moments but all in all, it's not nearly as interesting as the rest of his discography (even Physicist is way better than DM, apart from the production). I really like the first four songs on Dark Matters, especially From Sleep Awake. Deathray is one of my least favourite poppy Devin songs ever. MotP is very good and Earth is quite cool as well. Ziltoid Goes Home only has some very tight drumming to keep it interesting. Dimension Z makes up for a bit of it all but isn't good enough to be a total redemption.

I'm a huge Devin fan, but this is the first time one of his releases really let me down. And it's not even that bad, because the music isn't bad. Like I said, I really like Sky Blue and listen to it regularly. But Dark Matters is just really boring apart from a few moments/songs.

All in all, I guess I just agree with everything you said  :lol

Totally agree with most of that.

Ziltoid (the first) had a story that was goofy and silly on a surface level, but was quite clearly about Dev's musical history, feelings of inadequacy and so forth. An oddly personal album for him.

Dark Matters is the goofy silly stuff but has nothing going on beneath it. 

This is exactly my opinion. ZTO had so much more meaning and depth if you look past the silly story. DM just doesn't have that. I only hear a hint of that during Dimension Z and From Sleep Awake.