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Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?

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Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« on: April 14, 2014, 11:31:43 AM »
This was called into question in the "favorite DT track that everyone else hates" thread, so here we go.  Let's settle this.  What is DTF's opinion on The Dark Eternal Night?

I'll start off by saying that I don't really like it at all.  The main riff is cool and the chorus is catchy but that's all the song really has going for it IMO.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2014, 11:32:35 AM »
I like it. It's not one of their best, but I still enjoy it a fair bit.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 11:33:39 AM »
Yep.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2014, 11:36:57 AM »
I like the song but it's very average for DT, leaning towards the lower side of the average spectrum
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2014, 11:39:36 AM »
I love the song. It's powerful and it pumps me every time  :metal
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2014, 11:51:05 AM »
Quote from: Nekov on April 14, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
I like the song but it's very average for DT, leaning towards the lower side of the average spectrum
I pretty much agree with this. I would like it a bit more if it didn't drag on as long as it does. I generally prefer the longer DT songs, but this one doesn't really have enough about it to justify being almost 9 minutes long.

Maybe put the full song name in the thread title, for those not so hot on the acronyms if you want a better response?
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2014, 12:06:59 PM »
Yes, but not a favorite by any means.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2014, 12:09:54 PM »
No.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2014, 12:12:55 PM »
Love it
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2014, 12:15:15 PM »
Probably not my least favorite track, but definitely at the bottom end, so I would say no I don't like it.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 12:23:13 PM »
Yep, I like it.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2014, 12:31:50 PM »
No.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2014, 12:32:09 PM »
Yep.  I get why some do not like it, and I didn't like it at first either, but for what it is - a metal song that is a big pile of cheese - it works really well. :metal
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2014, 12:41:35 PM »
No
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2014, 12:43:50 PM »
Love it, it's one of my go-to-tracks when I feel like I'm overwhelmed with energy. The main riff, the chorus and the magnificent end riff are the highlights. MP slays throughout, I especially like how he places some of his snare hits in the instrumental sections and that overcranked double bass makes the main riff (and the last part of the chorus) sound huge.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2014, 12:44:44 PM »
Quote from: krands85 on April 14, 2014, 11:51:05 AM
Maybe put the full song name in the thread title, for those not so hot on the acronyms if you want a better response?
Good idea.

And yes, I like it.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2014, 12:52:57 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on April 14, 2014, 12:32:09 PM
Yep.  I get why some do not like it,  but for what it is - a metal song that is a big pile of cheese - it works really well. :metal
Yeah, I agree.

Plus it's an absolute fuc#ing BEAST live.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 12:57:51 PM »
Yes. When SC came out, it was the track (as well as "Repentance") that surprised me the most on that album. "Constant Motion" and "Forsaken" were pretty standard DT-fare, and "Prophets Of War" was just riding the Muse-train that started on the previous album with "Never Enough". The two epics were pretty by-the-numbers for DT as well, just new riffs and lyrics. "The Dark Eternal Night" was heavy, balls-to-the-walls metal and the chugging riffs were tight and massive. The middle section is stellar as well, and the outro contains that crazy Continuum solo that JR improvised!

Sure, the lyrics have more cheese than a pizza parlor, but it's part of its charm! It's not my FAVORITE song from that album, or by DT altogether, but it's a good song to just head bang to!

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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 01:03:34 PM »
Huge "yes" from me. It's one of their very best.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2014, 02:01:37 PM »
Quote from: robwebster on April 14, 2014, 01:03:34 PM
Huge "yes" from me. It's one of their very best.

Yes.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2014, 02:11:18 PM »
Good song, not great by any means
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 02:31:57 PM »
I really like it. It's my second favorite from Systematic Chaos (after ITPOE1). I had just gotten into DT through the Octavarium cycle and since exploring all of their albums, thought I knew what to expect. This was probably the biggest surprise to me. It's such a ridiculous song. I legitimately like it, but it makes me laugh out loud at parts. Which is why I like it so much. It's heavy as fuck, and wacky as all get it (apparently this song is my ex-girlfriend waka waka old man joke.) But nah, it's a neat dude.
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Re: Do you like TDEN?
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2014, 02:37:02 PM »
Quote from: Setlist Scotty on April 14, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
Probably not my least favorite track, but definitely at the bottom end, so I would say no I don't like it.
This. Although I will say it was much better live.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2014, 02:41:26 PM »
I like the first 30 seconds or so, then the distorted vocals come in and I lose all feels.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2014, 02:43:10 PM »
This is a song that did not click for me until Live at Luna Park - they absolutely kill it, and I love it :)
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2014, 02:55:47 PM »
Great song. The riffs are crushing and I love the chorus. I'm not even sure if it would be in my own top 50, and as Nekov said, it might even still lean towards the lower side of the average spectrum (when it comes to DT at least), but even that means it's still pretty good.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2014, 03:46:59 PM »
One of my favourite from SC...i don't like so much that record so it means that i like the song, but i don't "love" it :D
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2014, 04:05:47 PM »
Quote from: evz on April 14, 2014, 02:43:10 PM
This is a song that did not click for me until Live at Luna Park - they absolutely kill it, and I love it :)
I have a sort of similar story, since I started listening to it more often when I saw that it'll be featured on the DVD. Before that it was on the auto-skip-list, but it clicked with me soon enough and nowadays it scratches my top 25.

With that said, I ended up being woefully disappointed with the Luna Park version (just like with pretty much the rest of the DVD, sans 6:00, the drum solo and JLB). The drums sound especially weak when juxtaposed with MP's sound and the 50 layers of JLB backing vocals kill the live vibe. The ending is a lot better though, Jordan's Zen Riffer solo runs circles around the random Continuum sliding he does in the studio version.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2014, 04:23:15 PM »
Great song. One of a kind for DT, and it should be appreciated for that fact alone.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2014, 04:26:24 PM »
I've always thought it was alright, but for some reason I gained a new respect for it after I saw the LALP version.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2014, 06:28:37 PM »
It is a good live track. It's like Enigma Machine, not spectacular when played in its studio version, but enjoyable when played live.
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2014, 06:55:12 PM »
What's not to like? Awesome riff, catchy chorus, kick ass guitar solo. It doesn't have to be their best work for it to be awesome!
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2014, 07:21:36 PM »
yeaah! this is a different song for the group, some kind of djent style riffs here and there, like it but not love love it
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2014, 09:13:38 PM »
Quote from: Sycsa on April 14, 2014, 04:05:47 PM
With that said, I ended up being woefully disappointed with the Luna Park version (just like with pretty much the rest of the DVD, sans 6:00, the drum solo and JLB). The drums sound especially weak when juxtaposed with MP's sound and the 50 layers of JLB backing vocals kill the live vibe. The ending is a lot better though, Jordan's Zen Riffer solo runs circles around the random Continuum sliding he does in the studio version.

I don't think much of the LALP version either. The drums are just not right all around, especially what he does during the outro. They pulled off the vocals slightly better than I expected though.


I don't like TDEN. I LOVE TDEN. Excellent song, and hugely underrated for how well crafted it is. I do get why it's not to everyone's tastes though. But it's their loss. :biggrin:
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Re: Do you like The Dark Eternal Night?
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2014, 01:56:54 AM »
Love it. My favourite from SC.
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