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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2014, 10:37:08 PM »
That 13/4 riff in the first movement of The Glass Prison (the one right after the intro where it starts with just guitar and then the double-bass drums come in) is easily one of my favorite riffs of all time.
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« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2014, 04:55:05 AM »
OK fess up !!!

Does anyone know the names of all 12 *tracks* in the 12 Step Suite in order - off by heart ?

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Off the top of my head, without looking at any other posts...

1.
2.
3. Release?
4. Reflections of Reality (Revisited)
5.
6. Ready
7. Remove
8. Regret
9. ...Restitution?
10.
11.
12. Responsible

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Re: Eh Eh
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2014, 05:45:10 AM »
OK fess up !!!

Does anyone know the names of all 12 *tracks* in the 12 Step Suite in order - off by heart ?

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I would bet that The Letter M does.
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2014, 06:42:25 AM »
I have to admit that I don't :mehlin Aside from V. VI and VII, Reflections of Reality (Revisited), Ready and Remove and XII Responsible. And I have listened to the whole thing at least four times.

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2014, 07:13:37 AM »
1. Reflections
2. Restoration
3. Release?
4. Reflections of Reality (Revisited)
5.
6. Ready
7. Remove
8. Regret
9. ...Restitution?
10.
11.
12. Responsible
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2014, 07:32:28 AM »
1. Reflections
2. Restoration
3. Release?
4. Reflections of Reality (Revisited)
5.
6. Ready
7. Remove
8. Regret
9. ...Restitution?
10.
11.
12. Responsible


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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2014, 07:39:31 AM »
I remember #10 is Restraint thanks to MP's shouting :lol

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2014, 08:10:19 PM »
The riff at the end of The Mirror, right before Lie kicks in. Possibly DT's heaviest riff.

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2014, 04:52:10 AM »
there are a lot but
Ytsejam, The Mirror, Lie (especially the one before TM reprise), Beyond This Life, This Dying Soul, Home, Glass Prison, Panic Attack, Dark Eternal Night, A Nightmare To Remember, Count Of Tuscany (heavy 9/8), On The Backs Of Angels (the one in the outro), Lost Not Forgotten, Behind The Veil, Surrender To Reason and Illumination Theory are standouts to me.
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2014, 10:52:03 AM »
1- Reflection (5:53)
2- Restoration (6:54)
3- Revelation (1:05)

4- Reflections of Reality (Revisited) (6:39)
5- Release (4:49)

6- Ready (3:42)
7- Remove (4:25)

8- Regret (5:44)
9- Restitution (4:59)

10- Restraint (5:22)
11- Receive (3:57)
12- Responsible (3:30)

Riffs:

- Fatal Tragedy at 3:50
- Blind Faith, the chorus riff
- Stream of Consciousness, the one in 5/4
- Panic Attack at 0:30
- Forsaken's main riff and riffs in TMoLS' prog part
- ANtR solo's riffs
- Outcry at 1:58
- The Enemy Inside riff at 0:57


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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2014, 09:50:05 PM »
About To Crash Reprise's riff always brings a smile to my face. :)

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2014, 05:53:35 AM »
From the 'favorite DT Moment' Survivor I ran... the 2012 version.

Top 10 heavy riffs:

1:44  The Glass Prison
5:52  The Glass Prison
1:44  Home
1:02  The Root of All Evil
6:31  This Dying Soul
10:02 In the Name of God
1:26  A Change of Seasons
7:34  The Dark Eternal Night
5:48  The Dark Eternal Night
1:15  As I Am

Top 10 not as heavy riffs:

3:57  Lines in the Sand
0:15  Ytse Jam
0:30  In the Name of God
2:02  Lines in the Sand
0:40  Metropolis Pt1
3:13  A Fortune in Lies
8:05  Endless Sacrifice
Intro Under A Glass Moon
2:27  Scarred
7:40  6DOIT: About to Crash (** From Score)
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2014, 07:34:14 AM »
1- Reflection (5:53)
2- Restoration (6:54)
3- Revelation (1:05)

4- Reflections of Reality (Revisited) (6:39)
5- Release (4:49)

6- Ready (3:42)
7- Remove (4:25)

8- Regret (5:44)
9- Restitution (4:59)

10- Restraint (5:22)
11- Receive (3:57)
12- Responsible (3:30)

Revelation starts at around 9:40 of TGP IMO, it's not that short. Whole that instrumental section is part of Revelation not Restoration.

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2014, 09:04:14 AM »
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2014, 03:31:12 PM »
Revelation starts at around 9:40 of TGP IMO, it's not that short. Whole that instrumental section is part of Revelation not Restoration.

Says who?  :huh:
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2014, 08:42:53 PM »
I agree with most of the riffs in this thread, although I'm sad to not see the Forsaken riff be mentioned yet, I mean it's pretty badass even if you don't like the song overall. And that pinch harmonic squeel..

More recent standouts are the riff in Illumination Theory (you know, that one).

The riffs in Lost Not Forgotten and Outcry before and during the first verses (simple but effective). Build Me Up Break Me Down has a pretty badass riff that sounds like something in between Panic Attack and The Enemy Inside riffs.

Never Enough's riff and guitar work comes to mind aswell.

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2014, 11:38:55 AM »
I agree with most of the riffs in this thread, although I'm sad to not see the Forsaken riff be mentioned yet, I mean it's pretty badass even if you don't like the song overall. And that pinch harmonic squeel..

Oh, but I did..

 
Riffs:

- Fatal Tragedy at 3:50
- Blind Faith, the chorus riff
- Stream of Consciousness, the one in 5/4
- Panic Attack at 0:30
- Forsaken's main riff and riffs in TMoLS' prog part
- ANtR solo's riffs
- Outcry at 1:58
- The Enemy Inside riff at 0:57


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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2014, 04:04:24 AM »
Revelation starts at around 9:40 of TGP IMO, it's not that short. Whole that instrumental section is part of Revelation not Restoration.

Says who?  :huh:

And who says that it starts where you said? I clearly said that in my opinion it starts there and I'm not aware that MP or DT ever officially released start timestamps of individual 12 Step Suite parts, if they did I would love to see them ;)

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2014, 10:05:14 AM »
It begins where it ends.
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2014, 07:19:13 PM »
Revelation starts at around 9:40 of TGP IMO, it's not that short. Whole that instrumental section is part of Revelation not Restoration.

Says who?  :huh:

And who says that it starts where you said? I clearly said that in my opinion it starts there and I'm not aware that MP or DT ever officially released start timestamps of individual 12 Step Suite parts, if they did I would love to see them ;)

Yeah, I wasn't fair.. Sorry, I didn't see your "IMO".. :P

Anyway, as you've said, it would be great if they clarify that... But where? I mean, it would be a very thorough question to be asked in an interview and very complicated to answer anyway..
OTOH, only it would be about that particularly section.. I think all the other steps are well defined, I mean where it ends and starts the next one..
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2014, 09:16:01 PM »
The instrumental section feels pretty distinct from both the section before and after, so I'm not sure it matters much in this case. If I had to choose, I'd agree it's the start of the outro section, rather than the end of the preceding section, although it doesn't really need to be part of either.
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2014, 09:50:59 PM »
I never thought about that.. Just a section that it's not part of a part (or step).. Sounds nice..
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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2014, 10:25:16 PM »
I agree with most of the riffs in this thread, although I'm sad to not see the Forsaken riff be mentioned yet, I mean it's pretty badass even if you don't like the song overall. And that pinch harmonic squeel..

Oh, but I did..

I'm sad you didn't see it..  :'(

Haha, I'm sorry! In that case, it just needed another mention then. :P

Another one that occurs to me is A Fortune in Lies riff before the first verse. And possibly better yet, the Light Fuse and Get Away pre verse/verse1 riff. Simple enough but they sound awesome, and especially badass in some of the Live versions where the guitar has more crunch.

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Re: DT riff "hall of fame"
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2014, 10:26:56 PM »
I've always considered the instrumental section in TGP part of the third movement, because the tempo gets faster compared to the previous vocal section and remains the same until the end.