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Re: Pro Wrestling Thread
« Reply #1820 on: March 19, 2017, 05:57:45 PM »
Just watching Wrestlemania 3. I don't know how many times I've watched this show but the Steamboat vs Savage match never gets old and deserves all the recognition it gets. Many people call it the greatest match in wrestling history and I can see why, it's just non stop action. Supposedly Randy and Ricky had practiced the match in the months leading up at Randy's house and memorized every step and move that played out. Fantastic five star match and if you've never seen it, go out of your way to see it.

The Hogan-Andre match wasn't a great match technically but it was still great based on the visual and spectacle of the whole thing.

And it's strange playing back the show and observing the Silverdome and knowing it's now a derelict wasteland.

But WM3 is a good show and maybe still the biggest of all time. It might be the biggest point for wrestling too
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« Reply #1821 on: March 19, 2017, 07:00:10 PM »
Just watched the Steamboat versus Savage match. I was going to watch a few minutes but ended up watching the whole thing.

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« Reply #1822 on: March 19, 2017, 07:03:14 PM »
Its a very captivating match, and one of the first of its kind. Its very swift, technical and innovative for its time. Still very solid even by today's standards.

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« Reply #1823 on: March 19, 2017, 07:15:12 PM »
It's absolutely flawless.

Steamboat and Savage should have had the rematch at WM4 during the tournament but for whatever reason, they put Valentine over Steamboat. There were lots of politics, including from Hogan most likely, that worked against Ricky. I guess he asked for time off after WM3 to be with his new born and that's pretty much a no no in Vince's eyes. That's why they did the quick switch to Honky. If he didn't ask for time off, I'm sure Steamboat would have been groomed for a title run

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« Reply #1824 on: March 19, 2017, 07:33:35 PM »
Steamboat and Savage were both faces in 1988, though, and face vs face matches were unheard of at that time in the WWF.

Funny thing about their WM3 match is Steamboat didn't want to do that way - he preferred to call his movies in matches on the fly instead of planning them out - but Savage insisted and won.  The right to pre-plan the match move for move, not the actual match. :lol :lol

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« Reply #1825 on: March 19, 2017, 07:44:07 PM »
I think the fact that they were both faces would have made the match even cooler and not as predictable. Would have been a nice touch for Ricky to return the favour and would have made Randy winning the tournament more special.

As it is, WM4 is a bit of a grind to sit through.

There was a lot of filler in the early WrestleManias, but also a lot of classic match ups. Hogan vs Warrior exceeded all expectations and is one of my all time favorite match ups. And also exceeding expectations is Warrior vs Savage at WM7. That's a rollar coaster of a match and you would be hard pressed not to get even slightly emotional with the Elizabeth angle afterwards.

Other classics off the top of my head from the first ten WrestleManias would be Piper-Hart, Savage-Flair and of course the two major classics from WM10, Bret/Owen and the ladder match

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« Reply #1826 on: March 19, 2017, 07:49:53 PM »
Warrior/Savage was a beast of a match.  That was before kicking out of finishers was something that happens in every other WM match 33 times, so Savage kicking out of Warrior's press slam and splash, after Warrior kicked out of getting I think 5 elbow drops, was a major holy crap moment. 

Jake/DiBiase from WM6 was awesome, too, especially when the crowd started doing the wave to try and get Jake the Snake to rally.

But yeah, a lot of crap matches early on.  Just about every match at WM4 was pretty blah, even the tag team title and I-C title matches.  I think the tournament made for so many matches that all of them ended up being over too fast.

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« Reply #1827 on: March 19, 2017, 08:30:21 PM »
I remember being so amped when my parents told me WM1 and WM2 were available to rent on VHS, when I had my birthday that year, I put on the invitations that we were going to rent them (the party was at my house). I was a huge A-Team fan (aw fuck it, I still am) so Mr. T could have read a Chinese menu at WM1 and I would have loved it.
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« Reply #1828 on: March 19, 2017, 09:09:48 PM »
I have a weird affinity for WM4 because when I was a kid we randomly had it recorded on a blank VHS, so I used to watch it all the time.
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« Reply #1829 on: March 20, 2017, 04:54:45 AM »
I remember being so amped when my parents told me WM1 and WM2 were available to rent on VHS, when I had my birthday that year, I put on the invitations that we were going to rent them (the party was at my house). I was a huge A-Team fan (aw fuck it, I still am) so Mr. T could have read a Chinese menu at WM1 and I would have loved it.

I remember going to blockbuster and renting WM and other WWF VHS's.

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« Reply #1830 on: March 20, 2017, 08:24:57 AM »
I had so many wrestling VHS/DVDs as a kid.  I loved collecting them.  Had all of the early WMs.  I sold almost all of them on ebay at some point, but still have a bunch of DVDs.

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« Reply #1831 on: March 20, 2017, 09:26:54 AM »
That's part of why I love the network, is having all of the old PPVs available on demand. When April 2nd rolls around I will absolutely be spending all day leading up to Mania going back and watching old matches and such.
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« Reply #1832 on: March 20, 2017, 01:24:04 PM »
Jim Cornette to induct The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express into the WWE Hall of Fame.

Jim Cornette to induct The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express

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« Reply #1834 on: March 20, 2017, 08:42:37 PM »
All part of the mindgames to continue to legendary Midnight Express-RnR Express feud.

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« Reply #1835 on: March 21, 2017, 04:28:31 AM »
Is it me or does the new ring announcer on RAW sound a lot like Lilian? I was watching it last night after a while and thought she had come back

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« Reply #1836 on: March 21, 2017, 05:29:53 AM »
If you had to choose your top 6 favorite wrestlers, who would they be:

In no particular order for me, it would be:

1. Undertaker
2. Ric Flair
3. Shawn Micheals
4. Bret hart
5. Sting
6. Macho man


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« Reply #1837 on: March 21, 2017, 05:57:17 AM »
Top 6 seems like a bit of a strange number. :lol

My top 5 would be-

Kurt Angle
Rey Mysterio
Shawn Michaels
Mick Foley
Undertaker

Beyond that would get a lot tougher to narrow down, but would include more recent wrestlers like Styles, Cena, Punk, Bryan.
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« Reply #1838 on: March 21, 2017, 06:00:05 AM »
All time

1. Chris Jericho
2. Edge
3. Kane
4. CM Punk
5. Daniel Bryan


Current
1. AJ Styles
2. Shinsuke Nakamura
3. The Miz
4. Dean Ambrose
5. Asuka

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« Reply #1839 on: March 21, 2017, 06:32:06 AM »
I have to name 7, 5 from what was for me the classic era and 2 from the recent era (cannot leave any of these guys off).

Hulk Hogan
Rick Rude
Curt Hennig
Ted DiBiase
Randy Savage
CM Punk
Daniel Bryan

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« Reply #1840 on: March 21, 2017, 07:09:36 AM »
Never really thought about my 'fave' wrestlers. 

Sting
Stone Cold
Luger (pre WWF days)
Kerry Von Erich (dunno why, just always loved him)
British Bulldogs
Hart Foundation
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« Reply #1841 on: March 21, 2017, 10:59:29 AM »
From the entirety of my wrestling fandom, counting tag teams as one:

Rock 'n Roll Express
Ric Flair - though I might want to say the Four Horsemen
The Undertaker
Bobby Heenan - yes, technically a manager, I don't care.

Well, there's my top 4. There is a big of a drop off after these, so I will leave it at this.
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« Reply #1842 on: March 21, 2017, 11:13:47 AM »
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Ricky Steamboat
Steve Austin
The Road Warriors
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« Reply #1843 on: March 21, 2017, 11:34:42 AM »
Mick Foley (by far my favorite wrestler ever)
Stone Cold
The Rock
Chris Jericho
Hulk Hogan

and I'll add Vince McMahon.  While not a wrestler, he did get into the ring quite a bit and put on some fun matches and was/is a great entertainer.

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« Reply #1844 on: March 21, 2017, 11:50:57 AM »
Ultimate Warrior
Macho Man
Shawn Michaels
Undertaker
Chris Jericho

From a character perspective I loved Stone Cold and The Rock. And don't forget about the Bushwhackers!


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« Reply #1845 on: March 21, 2017, 05:50:11 PM »
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Ricky Steamboat
Steve Austin
The Road Warriors

Pre WWF Road Warriors I hope.  Their time in AWA/NWA was epic.
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« Reply #1846 on: March 21, 2017, 06:10:09 PM »
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Ricky Steamboat
Steve Austin
The Road Warriors

Pre WWF Road Warriors I hope.  Their time in AWA/NWA was epic.

Yeah their time in NWA and AWA was epic for sure.  Pure terror when they would come to the ring with Iron Man playing and absolutely destroy the two jobbers in a minute.

Flair and Sting are my top favs, but Hogan, Savage, Michaels, Hart and Warrior are up there too.

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« Reply #1847 on: March 21, 2017, 06:13:14 PM »
All time

1: Kane
2: AJ Styles
3: Jeff Hardy
4: Undertaker
5: Shawn Michaels

Current

1: AJ Styles
2: Sasha Banks
3: Finn Balor
4: Seth Rollins
5: Dean Ambrose
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« Reply #1848 on: March 21, 2017, 07:34:18 PM »

Luger (pre WWF days)


He was much better from 1988-1991 than some give him credit for being.  It's a shame that Flair was such a dick and would never put him over.

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« Reply #1849 on: March 22, 2017, 01:18:06 AM »
All time...

HHH
Jericho
Austin
HBK
Brock

But right now AJ is my guy.

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« Reply #1850 on: March 22, 2017, 03:35:32 AM »
Luger was capable of having a great match if he was in the ring with the right opponent. His match with Flair at Starrcade 88 and Pillman at Halloween Havoc 89 are both excellent. Him and Sting had good matches too

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« Reply #1851 on: March 22, 2017, 06:27:19 AM »
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Ricky Steamboat
Steve Austin
The Road Warriors

Pre WWF Road Warriors I hope.  Their time in AWA/NWA was epic.

Yeah their time in NWA and AWA was epic for sure.  Pure terror when they would come to the ring with Iron Man playing and absolutely destroy the two jobbers in a minute.

Absolutely.  Their two primary finishers - the 2nd rope power slam, and the top rope close-line off Animals' shoulders - were the two most devastating thing my early teenage eyes had ever seen.  They usually spent more time lacing their boots than they did in the ring.
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« Reply #1852 on: March 22, 2017, 10:45:16 AM »
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Ricky Steamboat
Steve Austin
The Road Warriors

Pre WWF Road Warriors I hope.  Their time in AWA/NWA was epic.
Of course.  Sorry, I thought that went without saying, which is why I didn't say it lol
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« Reply #1854 on: March 22, 2017, 06:55:24 PM »
I just hope the Hardys, if they sign, can continue on with the their current gimmicks.  It would be very interesting to see the Broken Matt in WWE.