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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #560 on: February 24, 2018, 09:26:39 AM »
Nice when you can "borrow" stuff from work.  :lol

I was actually thinking of a 27" but from what I gathered it's native resolution is 2560x1440 so anything under might look streched or downscaled. Those monitors I looked at was also a bit too pricey for me so I thought a more pimped out 24" 1080p monitor was the best of both worlds.
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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #561 on: February 24, 2018, 10:17:28 AM »
Dual monitors are the sweet spot for me. I tried a triple set up for about a month before I realized that unless you're coding, doing a shitload of multitasking at all times (content creation while watching streams, or streaming, coding, etc.) it's just not going to be utilized. I also tried the single ultrawide monitor for...about two weeks. It was awesome for gaming, but not nearly awesome enough to take away the real estate you get from an entire other screen. It's a lot more annoying to constantly resize windows and such to make it "like you have two monitors" instead of just dragging and dropping when you actually do.

I just now moved into 1440p at 144hz and it's incredible. But my secondary monitor is still 1080 at 144hz and it's not too much of a difference for gaming. Basically anything at 144hz if you can keep up with the speed with your components is just the friggin' best.

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #562 on: August 20, 2018, 01:28:58 PM »
So Nvidia finally annouced their new consumer GPUs, RTX 2070, 2080 and 2080 Ti. They seem to be really hyping up these cards as a big step forward especially with real-time ray tracing, can't wait for the benchmarks to pop up. The price though!  :eek

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #563 on: August 20, 2018, 03:29:39 PM »
Definitely seems like a nice upgrade, but with a 1080, I dont plam on biting for another cycle or two.

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #564 on: August 20, 2018, 07:52:00 PM »
The prices on those are crazy though I think very much inline with expectations. I'm very curious if they are truly above and beyond anything we've seen. I'm still on very old tech as I barely game, still on a 2011 AMD Radeon 6780. This thing still serves me quite well. The only time I'm upgrading is when I get a whole new PC with a set of 4k monitors. Though I don't see that happening for at least another 5 years. Crazy to think I built this rig in 2011 and shows no signs of slowing down.
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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #565 on: August 20, 2018, 08:18:42 PM »
I know I shouldn't but I really want that 2080ti, think of the FPS I'll get on RollerCoaster Tycoon :lol

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #566 on: August 20, 2018, 11:25:24 PM »
I'm thinking about selling my PC. It's a few years old but isn't used much, I'm just not sure if I should part it out or try to sell it as one unit. Shipping would be a hell of a lot because it's a huge and heavy case, too. I plan on building another in the future but for now I feel like I should part with it.
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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #567 on: August 21, 2018, 01:56:10 AM »
I'm thinking about selling my PC. It's a few years old but isn't used much, I'm just not sure if I should part it out or try to sell it as one unit. Shipping would be a hell of a lot because it's a huge and heavy case, too. I plan on building another in the future but for now I feel like I should part with it.

If you still like the case, sell the parts and hold the case for your next build.  If its a used custom PC, I'm not sure what value youd really get, my gut says the parts would be easier to sell than the whole.  Maybe I am wrong though.

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #568 on: August 21, 2018, 05:51:18 AM »
Anyone use Firefox Portable (or any other portable app) on a USB drive?  I use it for a while but then it became way too slow to be useful.  I realize its a lot of data transfer to and from the flash drive, but if that is the case, how are portable apps supposed to be useful?

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #569 on: August 21, 2018, 07:02:02 AM »
I'm thinking about selling my PC. It's a few years old but isn't used much, I'm just not sure if I should part it out or try to sell it as one unit. Shipping would be a hell of a lot because it's a huge and heavy case, too. I plan on building another in the future but for now I feel like I should part with it.

If you still like the case, sell the parts and hold the case for your next build.  If its a used custom PC, I'm not sure what value youd really get, my gut says the parts would be easier to sell than the whole.  Maybe I am wrong though.

I had a guy offer me 500 for it which I think is fair given it's a few years old but the case brand new costs almost 600  :lol The guts would definitely be easier to part with... I almost sold it to the guy but backed out because that same day Monster Hunter World's release date was announced but it looks like I won't have time for it anyway (and now I've lost all contact with him, sadly).
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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #570 on: August 21, 2018, 08:29:32 AM »
Has anyone ever reverted their PC from Windows 10 back to Windows 7? 

Mine went through the forced Windows 10 upgrade a few years ago and over the last six months to a year, I have one windows update that refuses to complete and gets stuck at 81%.  I have to hard reboot the computer and it goes back to the prior version of 10 - the windows FAQ says that it is due to an old wireless/Wi-Fi card.  I have problems with the wireless card's drivers as well, so the PC constantly loses internet connection - I suspect this is because it can't complete the upgrade.

A computer repair shop recommended and offered to revert back to Windows 7 for $150, including the backing up of all of my files.  I can do that manually via an external hard drive.  The update settings have a selection to go back to the prior version of Windows and I'm very tempted to give it a try.  They said that Windows 10 is just too buggy and causes nothing but problems, which I'd agree with.

Before I get involved in this, I just thought I'd ask and see if anyone has done this, and if it caused any difficulties or problems. 

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #571 on: August 21, 2018, 08:39:28 AM »
I've never done a roll back like that.  I did revert for a bit to Windows 7 when I rebuilt my PC last year, but I must say, I like 10 a lot more.  I don't really have issues with it (I didn't with 7 either) so I eventually upgraded my newer PC to Windows 10 like 6 months ago and haven't looked back.  (I actually needed Windows 10 to play a game, so it finally forced my hand even though I did want to upgrade, I had just been lazy)

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« Reply #572 on: August 21, 2018, 01:33:44 PM »
The Win 7 vs 10 thing is pretty polarizing. In the end they both have their pros and cons. I have a friend that swears by 7, yet it gave me nothing but fits anytime I tried to install it. Win 10 pretty much installs and configures itself. I've now set up a win 7 part in my box at home and I'm using them both, so I'm better able to compare them. I will say that it's nice to use 7 and feel like you still own the fucking machine. Win 10 is a never-ending series of nag screens, forced updates, and outright denials. When a computer I built years ago tells me I don't have permission to access a god damned file it really fills me with rage. Win 7 has some interface things that really bug me, and I still haven't been able to get explorer to work consistently across various folders. Otherwise it seems alright to use.

As for graphics, that realtime ray tracing really does look spectacular. I suspect it'll be far easier for developers to work with, as well. That might be the first advancement in graphics that is really noticeable to me. Most of the time it's just more dots coming faster (like that Battlefield demo). The ray tracing actually made it look good. However, I have no need of it. I tend to stay 3-5 years behind graphics.

A couple of months ago my r9 270 crapped out. I shopped around and got a great deal on a 290x, which is still a beast of a card for most purposes. For the last 21 years I've been married to ATI(AMD). Mostly because I use two cards to run 3 monitors, and every time I upgrade cards I shift the replaced one down to secondary. For the last 21 years I've been cursing ATI for their shitty drivers. All the way back to my first All-In-Wonder they've been fucking nightmares. Trying to get two cards from the same family to play nice together really shouldn't be a problem. At this point it's pretty much impossible with ATI. A week after installing that 290x an failing to get it all to work as it should I finally decided to rid myself of ATI forever. Went out and bought a 1060, slapped it in, and haven't thought about it since. It's fucking glorious. It even runs 3 monitors without any problems. It's like coming out of a freaking cave and seeing the rest of the world. Fuck ATI.



edit: Oh, and that was going to be my advice to Grappler. Install Win7 on a separate partition and migrate over at your leisure. Windows actually works pretty well in dual-boots. If you want to keep all of your same program installs and everything you're probably SOL.
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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #573 on: August 21, 2018, 01:44:06 PM »
A couple of months ago my r9 270 crapped out. I shopped around and got a great deal on a 290x, which is still a beast of a card for most purposes. For the last 21 years I've been married to ATI(AMD). Mostly because I use two cards to run 3 monitors, and every time I upgrade cards I shift the replaced one down to secondary. For the last 21 years I've been cursing ATI for their shitty drivers. All the way back to my first All-In-Wonder they've been fucking nightmares. Trying to get two cards from the same family to play nice together really shouldn't be a problem. At this point it's pretty much impossible with ATI. A week after installing that 290x an failing to get it all to work as it should I finally decided to rid myself of ATI forever. Went out and bought a 1060, slapped it in, and haven't thought about it since. It's fucking glorious. It even runs 3 monitors without any problems. It's like coming out of a freaking cave and seeing the rest of the world. Fuck ATI.

Ya, I had an ATI card in the late 90's at it drove me bananas. I think it was around 2000 that I said fuck it and bought my first nVidia. It was so great that I bought about 40 shares of it's initial public offering. It split pretty soon after that and a couple of years later I sold it. God, I wish I had those shares back now!  :lol

Anyway, I've stuck with their cards ever since. I love how quite and cool the latest generation runs.

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #574 on: August 21, 2018, 01:47:26 PM »
I was reading the part about EB using two cards to run three monitors and thinking to myself "damn, I could have done that with one nvidia card from my last build"  Glad to see you guys came over to the nvidia side, they are clearly winning this battle right now. 

I'd say the ray tracing stuff looks really cool, but it's too new of a technology to buy into the first round of it at this price point.  (besides, I mentioned I own a 1080, no need to upgrade anyway)

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #575 on: August 21, 2018, 01:58:19 PM »
Ray Tracing new? You must be talking about something I'm not aware of... we used to ray trace 3d models with 386's. Of course, it wasn't in real time. I remember rendering 480 pictures that took over night to compute.

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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #576 on: August 21, 2018, 02:07:06 PM »
Ray Tracing new? You must be talking about something I'm not aware of... we used to ray trace 3d models with 386's. Of course, it wasn't in real time. I remember rendering 480 pictures that took over night to compute.
I'm not qualified to talk about this kind of tech but from what I gather and as you say, it's all about Real-time Ray Tracing like using it in a multiplayer setting and also how powerful they say it is.
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« Reply #577 on: August 21, 2018, 02:11:27 PM »
I did a little searching, and it does appear that the promise of ray tracing in real time is coming very soon with Nvidia 2080 RTX and engine developers like Unreal. It's crazy to think that I'll see this technology in my life time. 20 years ago, I never thought I would.

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« Reply #578 on: August 21, 2018, 02:20:32 PM »
I did a little searching, and it does appear that the promise of ray tracing in real time is coming very soon with Nvidia 2080 RTX and engine developers like Unreal. It's crazy to think that I'll see this technology in my life time. 20 years ago, I never thought I would.
This is one of the demos from Nvidia's website. It definitely looks like a gamechanger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yn09UHWYFY&feature=youtu.be
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Re: The PC thread
« Reply #579 on: August 21, 2018, 02:52:49 PM »
I did a little searching, and it does appear that the promise of ray tracing in real time is coming very soon with Nvidia 2080 RTX and engine developers like Unreal. It's crazy to think that I'll see this technology in my life time. 20 years ago, I never thought I would.
This is one of the demos from Nvidia's website. It definitely looks like a gamechanger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yn09UHWYFY&feature=youtu.be

Damn. I need Skyrim "filmed" that way and then I can retire and die in peace.

Seriously - and slightly off-topic - I remember my teen self playing Zack McCracken and the Alien Mindbenders and thinking it the most immersive virtual experience ever. Have I (we) really lived through the greatest and fastest technological leap in human history?