And what is so useful about "you want fries with that"? Those jobs do nothing to serve society, they are only useful to train entry level workers what reality in the market place is.
These jobs are the backbone of society. These are the people that serve you, clean your tables, wash your dishes, bag your groceries, take your money. To say they don't serve society is to undermine and sneer at an entire class of people that largely makes your way of life possible. The people in China that build your phones, the people in Africa that sew your sweaters and assemble your shoes and the people in India that answer your annoying calls about how 'cupholder in your computer is broken.' Our life of excess would be far, far more expensive were it not for these people that do the jobs that "don't serve society."
Your ideas are based on entitlement and you are truly the naive one if you think that rewarding a lack of determination to better oneself and succeed is some recipe for economic success for the individual or society.
The economy actually improves when poor and middle class folks have more money to spend. Rich people tend to save any extra money they make since they usually don't need that money, but poor and middle class spend it since they have bills and expenses that need to be paid along with groceries and gas. So extra money to the minimum wage crowd = extra money into the economy = more money for people working in the economy. Which, of course = economic success for the individual and society.
Now, you could argue that that extra 50 cents per big mac might eat into the middle-class family's disposable income and that would be true were it not for the fact that as poor, minimum wagers spend more, middle class and rich folks directly benefit as the economy gets better.
And again to my point.....who pays for these increases?
I dunno. Who pays for all the wars? Who pays for all the tax cuts to the rich? Who pays for the banks to get bailed out? Who paid for Dubya to go on 40 fucking vacations during his time in office? Who pays to fund the excesses of rich oil tycoons? Who pays for all the military contractors and defense spending that we really don't need? Who pays when an insurance company wants to make a few extra bucks by refusing treatment to ill people? Who pays when insurance company, health care provider and pharmaceutical company fight over their billions in profits?
Answer: we all do but GOD FORBID we pay to increase the minimum wage just a tad. Blow up brown people with drones? Sure, that's a good way to spend money. Poor people in America? Fuck 'em.
And for the MOST part, it is about choices...study or get high....go to college to get a leg up on the competition or play COD and jerk off all day. Play the lottery or save and invest...this is not that hard.
This is a horseshit argument that relies entirely on the premise that the poor are poor because they are lazy. Are some poor people lazy and leeching off the system? Yeah, of course there are. But then again, that doesn't mean there aren't poor people out there who weren't just dealt a shit hand in life while some rich kid lives off mommy and daddy's inheritance while jerking off and playing CoD on his 62" plasma TV. So yeah, generalizations are real useful.
Again, these issues are not complicated, but they are made so by those who placate their desire to feel good about themselves by "championing" those who choose the easier road in life and get wrecked when reality kicks their ass.
Actually, I'd just prefer to think that I just have actual empathy, but "placating their desire to feel good about themselves by "championing" those who choose the easier road in life and get wrecked when reality kicks their ass" does sound good on a cereal box.
Those who seek to enable the capable but unmotivated are part of the problem.
I'm still a bit hazy on how raising the minimum wage enables the unmotivated. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you do still need to work to make minimum wage right? This isn't like food-stamps or EBT or welfare or anything. These people still need to work. So I don't see how they're unmotivated. Oh I guess they might be unmotivated to go to college especially on their extravagant 8.25 an hour salary. Not because of the money involved, no no, but because college eats into the poor minimum wager's precious weed and Scrubs time after an exhausting 3-1/2 hour shift of not serving society.
And the bigger picture is that societal engineering and liberal social agendas have done nothing but breed all the fight out of this country.
Thankfully we still have conservative social agendas against minorities, gays and women to help keep this country strong!
I know there are exceptions, but for the most part we are all EXACTLY where we are in life because of the choices we have made.
This is true. Choices do affect our outcomes in life. It's just too bad that we live in a society where one or two bad choices can screw you for a lifetime.
Ask any self made successful person.
No thanks. Most are blowhard assholes.
They didn't expect anyone to go to bat to make their lives any easier, they took it upon themselves to do what needed to be done to improve their lives.
So I assume you talked to every self-made successful person, got their life story and compiled it all together to get this one verifiable fact? Color me impressed.
There are some really intelligent folks that fall to the left of my world view on this board,
Gee thanks. Forgive me if I don't applaud.
but this one baffles me. Give a man a fish, teach a man to fish....blah blah blah
Except raising the minimum wage isn't really giving a man a fish and we don't do shit to teach them how to fish either so your analogy is flawed. If anything, raising the minimum wage is like giving a man a bigger stick and saying 'Have at it buddy.'
Now, I can understand some reticence on raising the minimum wage. Honestly, to me, it seems like a patch on a problem, a band-aid on a leaky pool. Raising the minimum wage would give more money to the people working these jobs, but in a few years as prices rise, the cycle will have started all over again and we'll be having this discussion again, only I'll have a beard and an eye-patch, because I'll be a pirate in the future. Raising the minimum wage isn't going to fix the problem. Hell, nothing will ever 'fix the problem.' There will always be poor and underpaid wage-slaves, that's how our society functions. Now, what we can do is make it possible that those who do want to get out of their poverty trap have an easier time of it because getting out of poverty can be very difficult for most folks. Some do manage it, but they are the exceptions.
The fact of the matter is, these people who work these shit jobs enable the rest of us that don't work shit jobs to live our over-consumerized lives where we can buy the shit we don't need at prices that are largely affordable. And as the scum-sucking capitalist that I am, I want to keep on doing that. I love buying my shit that I don't need and I want to continue doing that and if that requires tossing a bone to the folks that sling my burgers, package the CD's I buy at Amazon or stock the shelves at the local Walgreens, then so be it. Throw them a bone. If I have to pay a bit more for the shit I don't need or cut back on some of the shit I don't need, that's fair. I've worked those jobs. I know what unrelenting assholes people can be. They deserve a bit of a bone thrown every now and again so that the rest of us can continue to live our pretty damn good lives. Raising the minimum wage won't fix the problem, but it'll hold the pool together for a little while longer until we figure out a more permanent fix.
No society that traps the poor beneath the bootheels of the privileged is a worthwhile one.