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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2014, 10:30:46 PM »
I think maye he had the truck in storage all this time. He disappeared for 8 years according to the other two detectives. My guess is that Rust went deep under cover in the "cult" group during that time, and maybe didn't use his truck. Remember they said when he resurfaced he got his license renewed.

Yeah, he hasn't been driving that truck for 10 years. I think the fact they made the point of showing the tail light get broke then focusing on it in the end scene, showing how it hadn't changed a bit was to portray that point. Could even represent that Kohl hasn't changed a bit either.
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« Reply #71 on: February 25, 2014, 06:51:52 AM »
I took the symbolic meaning, and thought it was cool.  Still broken, but functioning inside (the bulb still worked).  I just had a little trouble with the literal aspect of the light being busted for 10 years and him never fixing it, never getting pulled over for it, and the damage never getting any worse.  But if it's really only been more like two years, then I guess that's more believeable.

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« Reply #72 on: February 25, 2014, 07:02:32 AM »
I took the symbolic meaning, and thought it was cool.  Still broken, but functioning inside (the bulb still worked).  I just had a little trouble with the literal aspect of the light being busted for 10 years and him never fixing it, never getting pulled over for it, and the damage never getting any worse.  But if it's really only been more like two years, then I guess that's more believeable.

what you've said just seems to support the idea he had that truck under a tarp or in storage for 10 years....until he resurfaced and got a new Drivers License.

I was thinking too.....that young chic Hart shagged was the girl from the trailer home brothel, right? She was the one he gave that cash to....told her to straighten up. When they walked out of that trailer I can't remember verbatim but Kohl said to Hart something along the lines of "were you making a downpayment" or "deposit", some phrasing that indicated Hart was 'sewing the seed' of a future conquest. And, indeed.....he ended up shagging her 10 years later :lol
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« Reply #73 on: February 25, 2014, 07:09:13 AM »
Some of the guys on the IMDb boards are saying No way, it's beyond coincidence that he runs into her again.  Others are pointing out that he's been in law enforcement for 20 some years in the same area, it would actually make no sense if he didn't run into some of the same people, suspects, perps, witnesses, more than than once.

But yeah, she's the same girl from the "bunny farm", and Cohle asked him if he was making a downpayment, to which Hart asked him if there was no act of decency that he (Cohle) wouldn't shit on.  When he ran into her at the T-Mobile place seven years later, that was coincidence, but ending up banging her... that was just her showing her gratitude and Marty as usual not being able to keep it in his pants.

So I guess it was a downpayment, as it turned out.  ;)

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #74 on: February 25, 2014, 09:59:30 AM »

I agree and believe Cohle has been trying to figure out who the Yellow King is. I think he knows it is someone most likely in law enforcement or high up in politics (the Governor we briefly met?) and that the only way to catch him/them was to not be noticeable to them.

I think when Harreslsons character sees the inside of Cohles storage unit (cuz you know he's going to Cohle and saying something and eventually Cohle will let him in on it) that unit will be choc full of evidence...pictures....articles etc etc of eight years worth of Cohle tracking the Yellow King. It's his office probably.


I meant that head Evangelist.....and unless HBO is trying to throw us off by re-introducing him it'd seem that he's involved in some level. I think even from his first scene.....like Kohl mentioned.....he was there to test the water and see how much they knew.
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« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2014, 10:15:44 AM »
The head evangelist is the governor's cousin; they're both Tuttles.  The first time we saw him, back in 1995, he mentioned "Eddie" a few times, and after he left, Cohle asked "Who the fuck is Eddie?" and they had to explain it to him, which also clarified it to us the audience.  And yeah, after Cohle's little follow-up in 2002 that got him suspended, I have no doubt that there's something fishy going on with him and that now-defunct program of his.

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« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2014, 10:22:10 AM »
That reminded of something else.  There's a new "major" now (Major Salter, played by Paul Ben-Victor).  That makes sense, since it's been seven years since Kevin Dunn's Major Quesada was in charge.  I didn't even catch that Quesada was a major, though; I always thought of him as The Captain.

My point is that I've never heard of a major in charge of a station.  It's always a captain.  Detectives and uniforms usually aspire to reach lieutenant, and maybe captain someday.  But a major is new to me.  Is this because it's the State Police?  It would probably help in cases when they have to go into some county or municipality and take charge.  In the military, major is the next rank up from captain.

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2014, 10:28:03 AM »
The head evangelist is the governor's cousin; they're both Tuttles.  The first time we saw him, back in 1995, he mentioned "Eddie" a few times, and after he left, Cohle asked "Who the fuck is Eddie?" and they had to explain it to him, which also clarified it to us the audience.  And yeah, after Cohle's little follow-up in 2002 that got him suspended, I have no doubt that there's something fishy going on with him and that now-defunct program of his.

I'm wondering how involved that old Reverand Theriot was/is? He looked pretty washed up but I'm curious as to if his possible participation in wrong doings drove him to drink and get high all day? Or if in fact, he was just ran out of town for discovering that child pr0n. Again, it's hard to believe the writers would have involved his characters in those early episodes if he weren't connected in some way.....or maybe we learned his connection in the last episode?
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« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2014, 01:20:50 PM »
Was Reverand Theriot the guy from the tent revivals back in 95?  If so, I think he's alright.  He found the child pr0n in the book and it got covered up, and he (Theriot) was run out.  I know pretty much anyone in this show can be a bad guy and/or have a hidden agenda, but I got the impression that his character's purpose was just to shed some light on the child porn, and thus probably other shady stuff going on in the Tuttle Ministries organization.  That Cohle ends up hunting him down a second time and questioning him, and we get to see him in another time frame, is a nice bit of continuity, but I think we're done with him now.  I could still be wrong.

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2014, 01:35:57 PM »
I know pretty much anyone in this show can be a bad guy and/or have a hidden agenda.

No kidding. This show just kind of forces you to 'build your own conspiracy' in a way. You could even start to argue that the new Major is involved because he suspended Kohl....on the surface due to insubordination and making something out of nothing (in his eyes) with those missing kids. Or was it because he is a part of the cover up? It's easy to turn everyone into the 'bad' guy on this show.
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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2014, 11:23:27 PM »
I've gone back over the first episode twice now and am no closer to having a clearer picture of who did the killings than when I saw it initially. The only thing I go back to is right from the start Marty begins painting the picture, in broad strokes that Rust is "not right". I still thing the symbolism of the poster and my other theories make me believe Marty is the Yellow King.
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« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2014, 07:41:06 AM »
I've gone back over the first episode twice now and am no closer to having a clearer picture of who did the killings than when I saw it initially. The only thing I go back to is right from the start Marty begins painting the picture, in broad strokes that Rust is "not right". I still thing the symbolism of the poster and my other theories make me believe Marty is the Yellow King.

You know.....Marty could be using his taste for affairs as a cover up to account for being 'missing' for hours? I mean, certainly all his co-workers (being detectives) notice his behavior....how he always comes in to work in the same clothes....the rumors....etc etc and they just pass it off as him shagging another broad. But, he could have set that all up to appear as such to cover for him being gone all the time staging the sacrifice scenes with the people he's killed?

And Rust does make it easy for him and everyone else to label him as 'not right'.
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« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2014, 08:29:05 AM »
I still say that that would be one of the oldest, cheapest tricks in the book, and I would actually be angry if that's how it plays out.  Not just disappointed, but disappointed to the point of anger at having this amazing series totally ruined by the old "Ha ha, it was one of the detectives all along!  Gotcha!"  Plus, I truly don't expect anything that cheap from HBO, although anything's possible.

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« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2014, 10:05:44 PM »
Couple details MAH BRUUUTHA mentioned to me tonight when I spoke with him. Kohl crafted (5) tin men while being questioned....all of which their heads had the golden crown of the emblem on the can Asa. Crown on their head. Cool. Plus, the picture that Harts daughter drew had a little girl surrounded by (5) men doing bad things to her.

Don't know if it means anything about anything....but it's neat little detail.
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« Reply #84 on: February 26, 2014, 11:34:32 PM »
I keep going back to that weird HBO poster and the fact that Marty's girls were fighting over the Princess crown. There has been so much symbolism though in this show, its tough to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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« Reply #85 on: February 27, 2014, 07:01:25 AM »
True, but I honestly think you're focusing on some possible symbolism a bit too much.  Yes, there have been hints/clues that could point to Marty.  There have also been hints/clues that could point to Rust, and pretty much everyone else.  Once the killer is revealed, we'll be able to re-watch the series and review all the clues along the way and realize that they were there all along.  And who knows?  Maybe you're right, and have successfully separated the wheat from the chaff.

Nic Pizzolatto has said that he's not trying to outsmart the audience, just present a good mystery, but yes, there have been clues all along.  Presenting Marty Hart as a decent detective but not exactly an Einstein, capable of missing a huge amount of detail right under his nose, simply doesn't strike me as the guy with the knowledge, resources (both time and material), and motivation to kidnap and murder dozens of women and children over the course of 17 years.  Then he actually particpates in the investigation with a disturbed but truly brilliant man who knows him about as well as any man can know another, yet never even suspects?  Having it turn out to be either of them would just be pulling a rabbit out of his ass.

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« Reply #86 on: March 03, 2014, 08:44:47 AM »
Mrs. P and I spent a decent portion of the weekend downloading and catching up on this series. We finished our Sunday evening with episode 6 so we still have one more to get current. Wow, what a series!

I'm a bit at a loss for words about the impact this show has made on my psyche. Suffice it to say that I can't remember a more emotionally compelling show, television or movie wise, in a very long time. The only thing that comes close is the first season of "The Killing" (for obvious reasons) and maybe the movie Se7en. Yet True Detective has features that even those shows can't match. The cinematography, the pacing, the story, the dialog and acting are all incredible. At times, the use of Louisiana's geography and culture as a character rather than just a backdrop is very overwhelming. I love shows that make you feel, if even for just a short time, like a different person for having witnessed it.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this season so I can go back and rewatch it. I have a feeling it will be even better the second time. I'm guessing that Rust's out-there monologues will feel more calculated once you know what's coming.

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P.S. In order to avoid spoilers I haven't read any of this thread so apologies if I'm rehashing old subjects.
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« Reply #87 on: March 03, 2014, 11:09:37 AM »
Well, there was a new one last night, so get caught so you can participate in the discussion!

I'm gonna go ahead a blab a little bit about it.

As expected, we're firmly set in 2012 now.  The jumping back and forth between 1995, 2002, and 2012 is no longer necessary, as we've finished the part where Gilbough and Papania interview Marty and Rust, and later (surprise!) Maggie.  So now we know that the real killer from 1995 was never caught.  We kinda knew that, but now it's official.  I like how Marty and Rust have reunited.  Yeah, it was not smooth; we didn't expect it to be.  Marty took some "convincing" (as he put it), as we knew he would.

Oh yeah, that's right.  There was just a little bit of time-jumping back and forth, as Marty talked to Maggie about how Rust convinced him, cut with scenes of the actual convincing taking place.  But it was all "present day" (2012).  Still, I've always liked that device when done well, and this was done well.  They've done a brilliant job all along in giving us believeable yet distinct appearances for each of the main characters in each timeline, so there was never any confusion, yet it never felt like a gimmick.  Of course, it is a gimmick; presenting the story in this way has made it much more challenging and fun for the viewer to piece things together.  But for me, it has always felt like "This is how we're telling the story.  Try to keep up."  Also, it adds to the replay value.  A lot.

So anyway, that's gone now, and Episode 7 was set entirely in 2012.  I missed the time-jumping, and expected these last two to kick into high gear, now that we've entered the final stages of the manhunt.  In that sense, I was slightly disappointed last night, as the pacing seemed to continue its leisurely stroll through the narrative.  We saw some stuff.  Rust's storage place has been his office, where he's been putting things together.  We knew that.  Marty and Rust are back together.  We knew that would happen.  They're after the guy with the scars.  We knew that, too.  But there didn't seem to be much urgency.

We've only got one episode left.  I'm expecting Episode 8 to blow my socks off.  In fact, I'm hoping it does, because after Episodes 6 and 7, which were great, but heavy on exposition and light on action, or any actual detective work, we need a really strong finish.  I was thinking Episode 6 was the calm before the storm and expected 7 and 8 to both really slay me, but it looks like they've held everything back for the final episode.  At least, that's what I'm hoping.

Too bad about Maggie.  She seemed like she really wanted to at least end up friends with Rust, but he shut her down.  I think he wrote her off the minute he chased her out of his place in 2002 and never looked back.

Interesting about Marty and his feelings toward Rust.  "If you were drowning, I'd throw you a barbell."  Yet in the interviews with Gilbough and Papania, he always spoke respectfully about Rust, spoke highly of his detective skills, and claims that he doesn't hold a grudge.  I'm guessing Marty would make some kind of effort to save a total stranger who was drowning.  If he would honestly throw a barbell to a drowning Rust, I'd call that holding a grudge.  Yes, it's just an expression, but still.

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2014, 11:29:57 AM »
Well, there was a new one last night, so get caught so you can participate in the discussion!

I'm sure we'll be doing that tonight!  :)

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« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2014, 10:32:45 PM »
The scarred faced grass cutter......same fella cutting the grass in 95' at the abandoned school,when Rust approached him only to be quickly recalled by Hart? I don't remember them ever really showing his face due to how abrupt Rust went back to the vehicle.

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« Reply #90 on: March 04, 2014, 04:09:14 AM »
Okay...this episode opened my eyes. I no longer believe my shaky theory about Marty, although i think his father in law may be involved. In fact I think it was the Tuttle family and maybe his father in law. Why? Going back and looking at the earlier episode there was a bunch of dudes on horses around Dora in the picture at her moms. Five in fact.
And there were five toys around the naked doll in Martys daughters room, like maybe she'd seen that somewhere maybe first hand. Like maybe with grandpa. Plus she threw that crown in the tree maybe to protect her sister from wearing a crown like the Tuttle clan makes kids wear in their rituals. And there were five beer can people that Rust made. So a group of people did the killing, Reggie LaDoux was just maybe the one who got the kids for them. Maybe he and the landscaper dude. 

Or maybe Marty has not been directly involved but has known all along who was. He stayed in the car and honked the horn and hurried Rust along when he was talking to landscaper spaghetti monster, and he shot Ladoux, maybe because they could claim he'd been at certain rituals. And he didn't seem too concerned when his daughter was drawing sexually explicit pictures. Maybe Marty with his daughter in tow stumbled upon grandpa and his Tuttle buddies in the middle of a ritual once. Hes tried to come to grips with what he knows and tried to ignore and it scarred his daughter somehow. Now im reaching again.
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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #91 on: March 04, 2014, 06:19:32 AM »
Okay, we're caught up.

Like TempusVox I've been trying to figure out the importance of Marty's eldest daughter to the story. She, over the years, seems unusually obsessed with group sex. I find the similarity between the scene with the barbie dolls, the pornographic drawings and the video tape revealed in episode seven very disturbing. Enough movie time has passed between the former and the later to make it easy to miss both for Marty and the viewer. I wonder what Cohle would have to say if he could see the drawings of Marty's daughter.

The grandfather in cahoots with the Tuttles is a shrewd theory TempusVox. Can you imagine the scene potential for Woody Harrelson if they find the evidence leads to his ex-father-in-law? Especially in light of what we've seen his character is capable of when confronted with the abuse of stranger's children. Holy crap!

Yet, this could all be a red herring. I'm just not very confident.

I'm concerned about the effect this show may be having on Mrs. P. She seems keen on watching it and says she looks forward to next Sunday's season finale, yet, she was up half the night and even when she was sleeping the poor dear was often aggressively arguing with someone. She's a strong woman who fiercely battles her demons wherever she finds them which has the side-effect of causing her to talk (mumble) in her sleep. Violence to women and children especially under the authority of religious ritual cuts way to close to the bone for her.

I'm prepared to groan with frustration at the end of next episode. I'm calling it right now, the story won't end next Sunday. We'll find something out that will be extremely important, maybe even completely unanticipated by any of us, and the producers will use this for a cliff hanger to end the season! Hart and Cohle will be back next season to finish the job.
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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2014, 07:48:59 AM »
They've said from the beginning that this is an anthology series.  Eight episodes to tell the story, which is already done.  Next season will be a different story, with different characters and different actors.  Only Nic Pizzolatto (the writer) is on for sure next time round.  The story will be wrapped up.

Or at least we will know who the killer is.  There are a lot of other stories and themes, and I suspect that most of them will go on.  Marty will continue with his crummy, single life, checking the personals and occassionally visiting prostitutes.  Maggie is now "Mrs. Sawyer" and looks like she married up.  Rust will pay his debt and close off the circle, whatever that turns out to mean.

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2014, 09:15:46 AM »
Okay...this episode opened my eyes. I no longer believe my shaky theory about Marty, although i think his father in law may be involved. In fact I think it was the Tuttle family and maybe his father in law. Why? Going back and looking at the earlier episode there was a bunch of dudes on horses around Dora in the picture at her moms. Five in fact.
And there were five toys around the naked doll in Martys daughters room, like maybe she'd seen that somewhere maybe first hand. Like maybe with grandpa. Plus she threw that crown in the tree maybe to protect her sister from wearing a crown like the Tuttle clan makes kids wear in their rituals. And there were five beer can people that Rust made. So a group of people did the killing, Reggie LaDoux was just maybe the one who got the kids for them. Maybe he and the landscaper dude. 

I had noticed the (5) theme....lending evidence to this is a cult or group thing. But that is interesting about the tie in with Marty's daughter and the Grandfather. Very plausable.


Or maybe Marty has not been directly involved but has known all along who was. He stayed in the car and honked the horn and hurried Rust along when he was talking to landscaper spaghetti monster, and he shot Ladoux, maybe because they could claim he'd been at certain rituals. And he didn't seem too concerned when his daughter was drawing sexually explicit pictures. Maybe Marty with his daughter in tow stumbled upon grandpa and his Tuttle buddies in the middle of a ritual once. Hes tried to come to grips with what he knows and tried to ignore and it scarred his daughter somehow. Now im reaching again.

The last episode convinced me that Marty is no way shape or form involved or knows anything. As upset as he was at the video there's no way he'd have tolerated stumbling upon his father in law or even knowingly approved kids being used/killed/raped etc in that manner. I think for all the extra marital crap he's done he still loves his kids and kids in general....he has a soft spot for them and I don't think he'd have tolerated or been involved in anything related to harming kids. I think HBO let us off the hook on any conspiracy surrounding him as to not be distracted by it in the last episode.
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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2014, 09:22:15 AM »
McConaughey confirms he's not doing a second season of True Detective. I think he should win an Emmy for his performance for this character hands down. And, as much as it sucks he's not returning I love the anthology idea and the fact that there won't be a chance to 'tire' of his character. It is what it is and should be enjoyed.....leave the door open for another gifted actor/actress to come and do the same.

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« Reply #95 on: March 04, 2014, 04:41:41 PM »
So... while we're waiting for the finale, a little humor, or something.  I knew what it was going to be before I even clicked on it, and still found it pretty funny.

True Detective / Magic Mike Mashup (Spoilers for Episode 7)



And just a wacky little thing.  Opening credits for True Detective, done Law & Order style.

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« Reply #96 on: March 04, 2014, 04:51:33 PM »

True Detective / Magic Mike Mashup (Spoilers for Episode 7)


That was very close to my reaction to going to see Magic Mike with Mrs. P. Except that it was all inside.  :rollin
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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2014, 06:42:54 PM »
Yeah, me too.  I'm comfortable enough with my masculinity, but stuff like this helps me confirm that I'm 100% hetero.

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #98 on: March 05, 2014, 08:20:24 AM »
Okay, I bypassed reading most of this thread...

Does this pick up?  I watched the first two episodes, and I am not sure if I like it.  It is very dark, very dreary, and seems to move very slowly.  I will likely stick it out, since I am already 1/4 of the way through the 8-episode season, but I am just curious if it ever picks up, or if it this slow and dark the entire time.  Non-spoiler answers would be appreciated. :)

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #99 on: March 05, 2014, 08:30:03 AM »
Okay, I bypassed reading most of this thread...

Does this pick up?  I watched the first two episodes, and I am not sure if I like it.  It is very dark, very dreary, and seems to move very slowly.  I will likely stick it out, since I am already 1/4 of the way through the 8-episode season, but I am just curious if it ever picks up, or if it this slow and dark the entire time.  Non-spoiler answers would be appreciated. :)

The 'darkness' never really vanishes. It's a theme of the show. As far as it picking up, I would say definitely. Judging from your opinions and preferences you've expressed on the forum of other shows....I'd think you'd be satisfied if you stick it out.
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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #100 on: March 05, 2014, 08:32:58 AM »
Okay, cool.  I am definitely gonna stick it out. :tup :tup

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Re: True Detective on HBO (merged)
« Reply #101 on: March 05, 2014, 09:15:15 AM »
Okay, cool.  I am definitely gonna stick it out. :tup :tup

Besides, mcCaughnahey's performance in this series is worth the watch. If he doesn't win an Emmy for it it'd be a shame. And I forgot which episode it was/is, but there is a closing three/four minutes that is the most intense, well shot....choreographed....acted.....everything a show strives to be.....this show does it. It's pretty friggin cool.
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« Reply #102 on: March 05, 2014, 10:28:29 AM »
I'm assuming you're talking about the "oner" (strange word, presumably pronounced "one-er").  That's right near the end of Episode 4, and it's a six-minute sequence.  The best thing about it is that they flow into it seamlessly from what's already a pretty intense scene and setup, and suddenly you're right there with a lot of crazy shit going down.  Amazing piece of work.

This show isn't for everybody, but after I saw the first episode, I was totally hooked.  Yes, it's dark and dreary, and doesn't actually move very quickly.  But somehow it covers a lot of ground and gives you lots to think about.

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« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2014, 11:31:02 PM »
Yeah that six minute sequence was so damn intense that immediately afterward I reminded myself that I needed to breathe, took a big breath, then rewound it and watched it two more times before moving on from there. Intense.
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« Reply #104 on: March 06, 2014, 09:57:33 AM »
I didn't even realize it was a oner until all the buzz on the IMDb boards and the TWOP board (yeah, I'm a discussion board junkie).  I went back and watched it a few more times.  Super intense.

I love the way that, as a (presumably unspoiled) viewer, you don't even see it coming.  Regular cuts, dialog, he gets dropped off half a block away, a lot of shots are hand-held anyway, we come up behind Cohle and follow them into the stash house, and from that point it's one continuous shot for the next six minutes.  A "oner."  It was all scripted and laid out and planned that way, which is to say, brilliantly.  Through the house, out the back, through another house, across the backyards, over the fence, and out to Amelia Street, between 18th and 19th.  Cohle gave him 90 seconds; it took Hart closer to two minutes, but we'll cut him some slack.  It was a pretty crazy night.

I'm glad we have a few guys here still discussing this show.  Since I don't have anyone else to discuss the show with, I can at least get something more out of it by getting other viewpoints.  I had to stop hitting the IMDb boards and the TWOP board for this show because of all the discussion about the previews and speculation about the finale.  I don't watch previews.  They contain spoilers.  I don't want to see them, and I don't want to know what other people saw and think about them.  People put preview spoilers right in the thread topics, so I can't even browse there now.  There are a few shows we watch regularly at home, always DVR'd, and at the end of the episode I pause it and leave the room so my wife can watch the spoilers preview.

Previews IMO are for one thing: to get you to watch the next episode.  I'm going to watch it anyway, and I always prefer to watch it unfold as intended by the writer, director, everybody.  If I catch even five seconds of a preview, I'm spoiled.  I know what clothes they're wearing, I've seen the background of the scene.  When that scene comes up, I'll be waiting for them to say the lines I heard, see the thing happen that I saw happen, and I won't be watching it with a clear, unspoiled view.  I'm not really listening properly to the dialog; I'm already guessing how it's going to lead into what I've seen and heard.  I hate that.  The second viewing, third, any subsequent viewing, yeah I know what's coming.  I can watch it and take more time to appreciate what I'm seeing.  But I want to see it the first time without any foreknowledge.

Whoa.  Sorry about the rant.