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Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette - Final Results posted!!!
« on: December 27, 2013, 01:25:33 PM »
Hello there!  Let’s get right down to business, shall we?  This is going to be a pretty long introductory post, so please, bear with me.
   

The Theme:
Some of you already know this about me, but for those of you who don’t, I have a confession to make: I know very little prog music.  I know a few bands pretty well, but for the most part, I’m limited to scattered songs I’ve heard here and there from various bands.  By and large, I am woefully ignorant of the genres.  I’ve decided it’s time for me to remedy that a little bit, and that is where you folks come in: I’d like to invite you all (or a few of you, anyway) to take me on a tour of the big wide world of prog. 

Thus, this roulette.  With your help, I’ll be using this roulette to explore the genres of progressive rock and progressive metal. 


The Restrictions:
The following bands are off-limits, either because I’m already familiar with most of their music or because I’m already exploring them on my own:

-Dream Theater
-other groups featuring members or former members of Dream Theater (OSI, LTE, Transatlantic, Jelly Jam, etc.)
-Rush
-Opeth
-Tool
-Pink Floyd

Everything else is fair game.  As long as it’s progressive rock or progressive metal.

As I already mentioned, I’ve also heard a few scattered songs from other prog bands.  Take Yes, for example – I’ve obviously heard I’ve Seen All Good People, and probably a few of their other songs, as well.  But I’m still largely unfamiliar with their music in general, so they’re fair game.  If you end up submitting something I’ve already heard, I’ll just let you know and ask you to pick something else.  But to be honest, I don’t expect that to happen very much.  I really don’t know much prog music, so whatever you send is likely to be new to me.

Basically, go nuts. 


The Ten Minute Warning:
One of my concerns going into a prog themed roulette is that I’m going to get overwhelmed with a ton of uberlong songs.  To prepare for this possibility, I am issuing a warning: I am only committing to listening to the first ten minutes of each song.

Now, this doesn’t mean you can’t send me something longer than ten minutes.  But if you do, you run the risk that I might not actually listen to the whole thing.  If I listen to the first ten minutes and like what I hear, I’ll listen to the rest of the song.  But if you send me a 30 minute epic and the first ten minutes bore me to tears, I might just give up and stop the song, in which case your submission will be judged based only on the first ten minutes – and that probably won’t bode well for you. 

So, if you want to stay on the safe side, it would probably be best to keep your submissions under ten minutes.  But if you’re feeling a little daring and you’ve got a long song you’re willing to bet on, feel free to submit it.  You never know: I might fall in love with it and listen to the whole thing over and over again.  Just be aware that if I hate the first ten minutes, I’m not going to listen to the rest of it. 


The Format:
There will be no point scoring system in this roulette.  I don’t like rating songs on a scale of one to ten (or one to five, or A to F, or any other scale you might suggest), so rather than scoring each submission individually and then comparing scores, I’m just going to rank the songs against each other each round.

Since there will be no individual scoring system in place, the winner will be determined by process of elimination.  You could say I’m running this survival style: each round, one participant will be eliminated.  As I said, I’ll be ranking the submissions, so whoever submits the song that ends up in last place for the round will be eliminated.  Last (wo)man standing after nine ten rounds will be the winner. 

I don’t have a last.fm to post, so the first round will be your chance to get an idea of what I like.  Therefore eliminations won’t start until the second round, with everybody getting a pass in the first round.


The Participants:
1. lonestar (the winner!)
2. jingle.boy (eliminated round 10)
3. Dr. DTVT (eliminated round 4)
4. Elite (eliminated round 3)
5. Kingshmegland (eliminated round 6)
6. wolfking (eliminated round 8)
7. Nekov (eliminated round 2)
8. Buddyhunter1 (eliminated round 5)
9. adace (eliminated round 7)
10. SomeoneLikeHim (eliminated round 9)

EDIT: The roster is full, no longer accepting applicants.  Sorry!

And just to let you all know, I prefer YouTube links for submissions


Other than that... well, I think that's about it, actually.  I'm still pretty new to roulettes (I've only participated in one and followed a couple), so if I'm forgetting anything, feel free to ask me questions or make suggestions. 

So, anybody interested?  :)
« Last Edit: February 22, 2014, 09:28:47 AM by Jaffa »
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 01:28:09 PM »
In, like I already said.
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 01:28:09 PM »
I'm in
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 01:30:45 PM »
How loose is your definition of progressive rock/metal? I feel like it can be an umbrella term for a lot of different styles.

Regardless, I think this would be a good first roulette for me to participate in. Count me in!
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2013, 01:32:46 PM »
I'll give it a go.

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 01:34:59 PM »
I'll join. This would be my first roulette and though my musical library is not as vast as some others I think I will find something to send. Especially with such a small bann list. Hopefully I won't suck too bad! :biggrin:

Edit: Dammit, 13 seconds too late!
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 01:53:25 PM »
... That happened a lot faster than I expected.  It hadn't really occurred to me that I might get more than three responses so quickly.   :lol   I'm just going to accept you all.  One extra round won't kill me.  You're all in!  Thanks for your interest!  :)

Just to let you all know, I won't be actually starting the first round until the new year.  I'm still busy with general holiday stuff, as I'm sure some of you are as well, so I'm going to wait for things to die down and get back to normal.  Plus, Doc's on vacation, and I told him I wouldn't start until he was back home.

In the meantime, any questions? 


How loose is your definition of progressive rock/metal? I feel like it can be an umbrella term for a lot of different styles.

To be honest, I don't really have a definition of progressive rock/metal.   :lol  I'm not going to be very strict about it.  If you think it fits, I'll probably accept it. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 01:55:57 PM »
Dadgum, too slow. I'll follow this one anyway. :tup

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2013, 01:56:31 PM »
Let's do this.



I'll send something after work man.

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2013, 01:57:43 PM »
I'll send something after work man.

Just to let you all know, I won't be actually starting the first round until the new year.
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2013, 02:01:19 PM »
 :lol  Yeah, sorry for the inconvenience.  I just thought I'd go ahead and start the thread so I could find my participants.  Didn't anticipate that it would only take six minutes to fill up the roster.   :lol  I wouldn't mind starting right away, but I did tell Doc I'd wait for him, so. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2013, 03:15:25 PM »
Thanks a bunch, looking forward to it! :)
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 03:38:39 PM »
I'm still in.

What's the deadline for the first round?
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 04:11:06 PM »
:lol  Yeah, sorry for the inconvenience.  I just thought I'd go ahead and start the thread so I could find my participants.  Didn't anticipate that it would only take six minutes to fill up the roster.   :lol  I wouldn't mind starting right away, but I did tell Doc I'd wait for him, so.

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Dare everyone to send a 30+ minute first round submission.  Drawing the Lines of Mortal Existence coming your way!

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 04:31:54 PM »
If possible, sign me in  :tup
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2013, 04:35:05 PM »
Thanks a bunch, looking forward to it! :)

Me too!   :D

I'm still in.

What's the deadline for the first round?

Haven't really set one yet.  Like I said, I told Doc I'd wait for the new year.  There won't be a theme for the first round, so you can go ahead and start thinking about what you might want to submit, but don't send yet.  Thanks for checking in!

Dare everyone to send a 30+ minute first round submission.  Drawing the Lines of Mortal Existence coming your way!

... Eep.   :omg: :lol

And it's your own fault if the competition is too tough, since you recommended several of them to me yourself.   :lol

If possible, sign me in  :tup

Sorry, I'm full.  Nothing personal, it's just that this is my first time doing this, and I don't want to get too overwhelmed.  If I ever do another one, I'll be sure to contact you!  Again, sorry, and I appreciate your interest.
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2013, 04:43:38 PM »
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2013, 05:15:47 PM »
And it's your own fault if the competition is too tough, since you recommended several of them to me yourself.   :lol


I know.  BTW, a lot of songs I like to use ain't on YT.  You ok we me PM'g you a link for you to download the .mp3 from my google drive?
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2013, 06:41:42 PM »
Yeah, that should be fine.  :)
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2013, 06:53:58 PM »
A prog-themed roulette with so few banned artists...I can see the gloves coming off already.

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2013, 07:03:25 PM »
Will send a song tomorrow!
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Re: Jaffa's Prog Rock and Metal Roulette v. IT'S PROGGIN' TIME
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2013, 07:07:24 AM »
Will send a song tomorrow!


I'm still in.

What's the deadline for the first round?

Haven't really set one yet.  Like I said, I told Doc I'd wait for the new year.  There won't be a theme for the first round, so you can go ahead and start thinking about what you might want to submit, but don't send yet.  Thanks for checking in!





Reading previous posts, you suck at it King  :lol
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2013, 07:35:49 AM »
I suck in general! :lol

Alright I'll wait to the new year.   :P :biggrin:
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2013, 08:23:57 AM »
Haha, no worries.  I probably shouldn't have posted the thread until it was time to start for real.  Sorry about that.

Thread title edited to avoid further confusion.   :D
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2013, 12:50:09 PM »
Ok, so we got a few days, let the shit talking begin....


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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2013, 01:51:19 PM »
Ok, so we got a few days, let the shit talking begin....


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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2013, 01:59:17 PM »
Ok, so we got a few days, let the shit talking begin....


King may suck, so who's game for swallowing? Chad?

All I can get.

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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2013, 02:36:53 PM »
Ok, so we got a few days, let the shit talking begin....


King may suck, so who's game for swallowing? Chad?

All I can get.

You're going down like Richard Simmons at a gay bar.

You're all gonna get beat worse than the pecker on a nerdy 15 year old.
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« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2013, 03:10:13 AM »
Apologies if this has been answered but are we just sending you the youtube link my PM or will you proivde an email?
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« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2013, 08:10:46 AM »
Apologies if this has been answered but are we just sending you the youtube link my PM or will you proivde an email?

Well, I was thinking we'd just do it through PM, but I suppose I could provide an email if it's necessary.
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« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2013, 09:56:53 AM »
What's your rule on the amount of different submissions we can send from a single band/artist?
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2013, 02:07:20 PM »
I don't think I'm going to set a concrete rule on that.  I mean, I'm looking to explore a variety, so I'd prefer to get a sample of as many different artists as possible, but if you want to give a band another try, I'm not going to hold it against you.  Who knows?  I might like the second song a lot better than the first and end up falling in love with the band. 

So yeah, no specific rule.  I'll just play it by ear.  Hope that's alright. 
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 02:21:29 PM »
Cool. :)
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2013, 03:31:52 PM »
I can't join anymore, and I don't think I would have, because I hadn't been very useful participant, since I know only little more prog than you do. :lol Following.

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« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2013, 01:43:53 AM »
A prog-only roulette? Interesting idea, even though I wouldn't run (or participate in) a roulette with such limitations. Following!