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« Reply #106 on: December 25, 2013, 10:50:13 PM »
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« Reply #107 on: December 26, 2013, 01:39:29 AM »
Am I seeing a potential consensus about To Live Forever being a good choice for future tours?
I wouldn't mind that at all :biggrin: Seriously, the extended intro is so awesome :o

One thing I paid attention to is that James skipped the "humming"/wordless vocals at the beginning of both AD and TLF. Maybe he finds those too early 90s :lol

E: Did anyone else notice "Trimming against the current"? :lol

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« Reply #108 on: December 26, 2013, 04:01:33 AM »
One thing I paid attention to is that James skipped the "humming"/wordless vocals at the beginning of both AD and TLF. Maybe he finds those too early 90s :lol

E: Did anyone else notice "Trimming against the current"? :lol
Yeah, I did. On the flip side, that "FUCKED" was more powerful than ever. He also changed up "the '90s bring new questions" in LTL so he must really want to put that decade behind him. :lol
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« Reply #109 on: December 26, 2013, 04:08:14 AM »
Just amazing how good this is. From TGD an onwards, this is definately my favorite live release after Score. Compared to LALP, this is 10 times more enjoyable thanks to the audible keyboards, bass and fatter drums. The piano during the TCOT chorus is mindblowingly awesome. I haven't even finished listening to LALP due to the mix not being to my taste, that's how much it disappointed me. Sure, the vocals on this release sound a bit oddly mixed, but James' singing is incredible! Really amazing to hear!

Once again, thanks to everyone involved for making this happen!
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« Reply #110 on: December 26, 2013, 04:18:15 AM »
Just amazing how good this is. From TGD an onwards, this is definately my favorite live release after Score. Compared to LALP, this is 10 times more enjoyable thanks to the audible keyboards, bass and fatter drums. The piano during the TCOT chorus is mindblowingly awesome. I haven't even finished listening to LALP due to the mix not being to my taste, that's how much it disappointed me. Sure, the vocals on this release sound a bit oddly mixed, but James' singing is incredible! Really amazing to hear!

Once again, thanks to everyone involved for making this happen!

I'm only up to Peruvian Skies and I already think that this is a better release than Luna Park.  The setlist is better and so far the performances are better, especially James.

Thanks again for everyone involved, this is one of the coolest things any band has done.

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« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2013, 04:30:29 AM »
Listening to Endless Sacrifice right now, and James is fucking annihilating this, incredible stuff.

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« Reply #112 on: December 26, 2013, 06:25:41 AM »
I finally downloaded this only to find my computer wont play FLAC files. Truth be told I have never even come across them. I was also hoping to put them to CD but apparently WMP wont even allow FLAC files to be put to CD :(

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« Reply #113 on: December 26, 2013, 06:27:30 AM »
I finally downloaded this only to find my computer wont play FLAC files. Truth be told I have never even come across them. I was also hoping to put them to CD but apparently WMP wont even allow FLAC files to be put to CD :(

http://www.pristineclassical.com/More/FLAC-WMP.html

Just go here and download the codec and you can at least listen to it.

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« Reply #114 on: December 26, 2013, 07:57:27 AM »
I'm surprised people are so cold on LALP.  i mean, this release is without a doubt awesome, and James is on fire, but better than Luna Park?

I personally rank LALP ahead of this but this release in many ways holds up to LALP.  I'm glad we have both. 

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« Reply #115 on: December 26, 2013, 08:08:47 AM »
I'm surprised people are so cold on LALP.  i mean, this release is without a doubt awesome, and James is on fire, but better than Luna Park?

I got the same feeling as you. I consider LALP to be a great DVD, both for sound/mixing and for the performance.

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« Reply #116 on: December 26, 2013, 08:45:20 AM »
I'm astonished at the generosity of this gift. Especially considering the enthusiasm of DT fans to purchase every release. The quality of the recordings and performances is extremely high and certainly marketable.

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« Reply #117 on: December 26, 2013, 09:47:18 AM »
oh, and not to nitpick...but it's "strictly prohibited"  ;) :D

Just to put an end to all the comments I've received about this... it was done on purpose.

Notice the line right above it :
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« Reply #118 on: December 26, 2013, 10:15:03 AM »
If we were to get this before LALP, I'd have been so hyped up and ultimately disappointed. It addresses all the problems I've had with it (low keyboards, weak drums). I can only hope they did it consciously, being aware of LALP's shortcomings.
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« Reply #119 on: December 26, 2013, 12:26:03 PM »
Is it supposed to be only audio, by the way?

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« Reply #120 on: December 26, 2013, 12:26:36 PM »
Is it supposed to be only audio, by the way?
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« Reply #121 on: December 26, 2013, 12:41:23 PM »
He also changed up "the '90s bring new questions" in LTL so he must really want to put that decade behind him. :lol
Actually, he's been singing it that way for several years, as I drew MP's attention to that line as being dated, and not long after that, the change in the lyric happened. Can't remember when it happened, but I know it's been sung that way at least since 2006.
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« Reply #122 on: December 26, 2013, 01:16:01 PM »
I haven't gotten a chance to listen to the whole thing yet, but so far its incredible! Thanks to all involved with giving us this amazing Christmas gift.  :tup
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« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2013, 01:53:05 PM »
He also changed up "the '90s bring new questions" in LTL so he must really want to put that decade behind him. :lol
Actually, he's been singing it that way for several years, as I drew MP's attention to that line as being dated, and not long after that, the change in the lyric happened. Can't remember when it happened, but I know it's been sung that way at least since 2006.

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« Reply #124 on: December 26, 2013, 02:10:00 PM »
I think that the people who think this is better than LALP think so because the mix is better and the setlist has songs that are more obscure in terms in their live releases so it ends up being a really awesome collection of live songs.

However, LALP is a way better concert because of everything that went into it, all the ADTOE songs, the soft songs with the strings, and the Blu-Ray is spectacular. 

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« Reply #125 on: December 26, 2013, 02:25:03 PM »
A huge thankyou to the team who have made the Chrissie treat available.

After a few listens I prefer the CD2 tracks more so my current playlist has CDs 1&2 swapped with As I Am at top of the order. Also for a great intro you can add a YouTube clip from LALP of Bridges in the Sky & 6:00 together.

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« Reply #126 on: December 26, 2013, 02:26:45 PM »
I think that the people who think this is better than LALP think so because the mix is better and the setlist has songs that are more obscure in terms in their live releases so it ends up being a really awesome collection of live songs.

However, LALP is a way better concert because of everything that went into it, all the ADTOE songs, the soft songs with the strings, and the Blu-Ray is spectacular.

I think both have their ups and downs. The proper volume of keyboards is definitely awesome on the Holiday tracks, but since they are from different shows, the sound quality and peformances aren't very consistent. While JLB might be amazing on some of the songs, on others, he's not in top form. (Whereas in Luna Park, he was at his best all throughout). And a few of the songs just have too much reverb or this or that in them. Plus Luna Park does have the video footage to accompany it.

So yeah, both have their ups and downs. Luna Park, for what it is, was definitely worth the money. This Holiday collection is easy to appreciate because it was free and gave us new songs.

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« Reply #127 on: December 26, 2013, 03:19:34 PM »
I listened to some of the tracks on the new CD while syncing them with youtube video from that night and it was pretty interesting to watch it that way. If I had no life whatsoever I might download all the different youtube videos of these performances and make a DVD out of it.

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« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2013, 03:21:35 PM »
I listened to some of the tracks on the new CD while syncing them with youtube video from that night and it was pretty interesting to watch it that way. If I had no life whatsoever I might download all the different youtube videos of these performances and make a DVD out of it.

If I were to do that, can we still pretend like I have a life?

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« Reply #129 on: December 26, 2013, 03:42:25 PM »
 :omg:  :o Absolutely!! In fact, you'd have a very important life.. in DT world. Which is the only world that matters.


Edit: Also, I might add that I would recommend to anyone that you listen to the F# in LTL slowed way down like -80%. It's quite entertaining especially in this version.  :biggrin:

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« Reply #130 on: December 26, 2013, 03:45:05 PM »
I think that the people who think this is better than LALP think so because the mix is better and the setlist has songs that are more obscure in terms in their live releases so it ends up being a really awesome collection of live songs.

However, LALP is a way better concert because of everything that went into it, all the ADTOE songs, the soft songs with the strings, and the Blu-Ray is spectacular.

I think both have their ups and downs. The proper volume of keyboards is definitely awesome on the Holiday tracks, but since they are from different shows, the sound quality and peformances aren't very consistent. While JLB might be amazing on some of the songs, on others, he's not in top form. (Whereas in Luna Park, he was at his best all throughout). And a few of the songs just have too much reverb or this or that in them. Plus Luna Park does have the video footage to accompany it.

So yeah, both have their ups and downs. Luna Park, for what it is, was definitely worth the money. This Holiday collection is easy to appreciate because it was free and gave us new songs.

I strongly disagree.

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« Reply #131 on: December 26, 2013, 03:47:14 PM »
I think that the people who think this is better than LALP think so because the mix is better and the setlist has songs that are more obscure in terms in their live releases so it ends up being a really awesome collection of live songs.

However, LALP is a way better concert because of everything that went into it, all the ADTOE songs, the soft songs with the strings, and the Blu-Ray is spectacular.

I think both have their ups and downs. The proper volume of keyboards is definitely awesome on the Holiday tracks, but since they are from different shows, the sound quality and peformances aren't very consistent. While JLB might be amazing on some of the songs, on others, he's not in top form. (Whereas in Luna Park, he was at his best all throughout). And a few of the songs just have too much reverb or this or that in them. Plus Luna Park does have the video footage to accompany it.

So yeah, both have their ups and downs. Luna Park, for what it is, was definitely worth the money. This Holiday collection is easy to appreciate because it was free and gave us new songs.

I strongly disagree.

I can't think of a single song on LALP where his performance was subpar.

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« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2013, 03:48:53 PM »
He's pitchy over most of the concert.  The worst ones I can think of is Bridges, Night, Root and Pull.

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« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2013, 03:54:42 PM »
In Root, they actually did an overdub in one place that made it worse. "Driven blindly by our sins mislead so easily, Entirely ready to leave it behind, begging to break free." Originally, it was not only spot on, but better than the album and then they overdubbed it and used a take where he hit it flat and had less vibrato.

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« Reply #134 on: December 26, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »
He's pitchy over most of the concert.  The worst ones I can think of is Bridges, Night, Root and Pull.

I don't know what pitchy means. Pull Me Under was an okay performance, I'll admit, nothing incredible about it. But Root in particular I thought was an excellent performance, albeit a little too theatrical. Bridges and Night were stellar as well, so I'm not sure what you mean.

There were much more noticeable flaws in some of the songs on this Holiday release. The chorus on UAGM, I don't know what he's doing. I mean, the high note he sings is significantly higher than it's supposed to be, which is impressive, I guess, but it's completely out of tune with the melody, and he didn't nail the F# on LTL. Which is unfortunate, because I've seen some Youtube footage where he pulled off the F# with a vengeance, and even at the concert I went to, he sung UAGM properly. So it's not like he couldn't.

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« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2013, 04:01:09 PM »
He's pitchy over most of the concert.  The worst ones I can think of is Bridges, Night, Root and Pull.

I don't know what pitchy means. Pull Me Under was an okay performance, I'll admit, nothing incredible about it. But Root in particular I thought was an excellent performance, albeit a little too theatrical. Bridges and Night were stellar as well, so I'm not sure what you mean.

There were much more noticeable flaws in some of the songs on this Holiday release. The chorus on UAGM, I don't know what he's doing. I mean, the high note he sings is significantly higher than it's supposed to be, which is impressive, I guess, but it's completely out of tune with the melody, and he didn't nail the F# on LTL. Which is unfortunate, because I've seen some Youtube footage where he pulled off the F# with a vengeance, and even at the concert I went to, he sung UAGM properly. So it's not like he couldn't.

Pitchy means his notes weren't in key or on pitch a lot of the times.  A lot of his passing notes in his vox were off.  His big notes and long notes were good but the notes getting to those a lot of the time were either sharp or flat.

In regards to UAGM, he's pretty much been singing it that way most of the time live, doesn't he?

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« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2013, 04:01:52 PM »
In Root, they actually did an overdub in one place that made it worse. "Driven blindly by our sins mislead so easily, Entirely ready to leave it behind, begging to break free." Originally, it was not only spot on, but better than the album and then they overdubbed it and used a take where he hit it flat and had less vibrato.

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Well, you can tell it was overdubbed anyway just from the mouth movements.

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« Reply #137 on: December 26, 2013, 04:03:05 PM »
Would it be too trivial to make a thread about the one word "TIME" in UAGM?

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« Reply #138 on: December 26, 2013, 04:04:54 PM »
"TIME" or TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWMMMMMEE"?

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« Reply #139 on: December 26, 2013, 04:09:27 PM »
Maybe a poll about which you like better?

In regards to UAGM, he's pretty much been singing it that way most of the time live, doesn't he?

I think he's been screaming "time" ever since this little incident http://youtu.be/1Yogybuxyc4?t=7m40s

Before that show he's always done it regular, but on the first couple shows of ADTOE warm up tour, it was pretty weak.