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DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« on: September 29, 2013, 10:54:49 PM »
The purpose of this thread is to keep a running archive of past top 50 threads, notify current and soon to be thread starters of their turn, and to organize future interested participants.  Having three participants active at any one time seems to be the best way to go about it.  For those new to the idea of top 50 threads, it is simple - post your top 50 albums (preferably in some ranked order) and tell us why each album makes the list.  Make updates every day or so and try to finish in a respectable amount of time to keep things moving.  If you are interested, please post here and I will add you to the waiting list.




Moved to Archive:

Archived Top 50 threads are listed at: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=33261.0


Recently completed:

adace (v2) [started February 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35999.0

crazyaga [started February 2013] (Top 40)
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35752.0

jingle.boy (v2) [started December 2012]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35218.0

Sketchy [started April 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36806.0

Elite (v2) [started April 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36816.0

ariich (v2) [started March 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36340.0

KevShmev [started July 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38054.0

Destiny Of Chaos [started July 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=37962.0

Zantera (v2) [started August 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38505.0

Dark Castle (v1.5) [started July 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=37902.0

Orthogonal [started September 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38841.0

Scorpion (v2) [started October 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39377.0

Ruba [started September 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39269.0

Lolzeez (v2) [started October 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39348.0

Mladen [started December 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40280.0

PuffyPat [started November 2013]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39945.0

Zook [started January 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40561.0

Jaq [started February 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40838.0

FlyingBIZKIT [started April 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41270.0

CrimsonSunrise [started April 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41316.0

Mister Gold [started May 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41457.0

nicmos [started June 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41680.0

Outcrier [started June 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41676.0

GentlemanofDread [started June 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41728.0

bl5150 [started June 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41830.0

Sacul [started July 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42036.0

Accelerando [started July 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42011.0

LieLowTheWantedMan (v3) [started August 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42166.0

mikemangioy [started September 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42331.0

Evermind [started January 2015]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43039.0

Parama [started August 2015]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44367.0

mikemangioy (v2.1) [started August 2015]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43527.msg1995858#msg1995858

Fluffy Lothario [started September 2015]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44565.0

Train of Naught [started December 2015]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45119.0

Sacul [started December 2015]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45264.0

Tomislav95 [started February 2016]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46065.0

Elite (v3) [started March 2016]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46598.0


Lost in the ether:

ClairvoyantCat [started June 2011]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=24316.0

skydivingninja [started July 2011]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=24584.0


On Hold:

DTVT [started March 2012]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=31467.0

SoundscapeMN [started January 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=40500.0

ThatOneGuy2112 [started October 2014]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42583.0


Ongoing:

Anguyen92 [started February 2016]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46041.0

Scar [started June 2016]
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47520.0

This could be you [started ?]


Waiting list:
Zook (v3)
twosuitsluke
Prog Snob
splent
PuffyPat (v2)
Luoto
DebraKadabra
Zantera
Mister Gold


May go in future:
If your are on this list and are ready to go, let me know!
yorost
MasterShakezula
Nick (v2)
MoraWintersoul
Jirpo
WindMaster
Iarwain
dethklok09
TAC (v2)
?
Lowdz (v2)


The Database

In addition to keeping the waiting list up to date, I have also I taken all of the top 50 lists that have been posted thus far and listed every selection in a spreadsheet including Album, Artist, Year of Release, and Forum User.  I also assigned points to each User's list based on their album ranking.  Their top ranked album received 50 points, 2nd ranked got 49 and so on.  If more than 50 albums were listed, the extra albums each received 1 point as if it were ranked 50th. (if you choose not to rank your album list, there isn't really a way for me to include your list in the database, sorry)

Some artists and their various projects have been combined due to one person being the primary driving force such as: Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson/No-Man/Bass Communion, Devin Townsend solo projects/Strapping Young Lad, Arjen Lucassen/Ayreon/Star One, etc

The database is an excel spreadsheet at the moment, but I have placed some of the info in a google doc that can be accessed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av7hhWXD5VkadEtTOTNyN0ZfdTZaWWF3N3BjOFROeGc

DTF Top 20 Albums (as of June 10, 2014)
1. Images and Words - Dream Theater (1200 points)
2. Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory - Dream Theater (832)
3. Blackwater Park - Opeth (710)
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Dream Theater (645)
5. Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd (586)
6. Colors - Between the Buried and Me (551)
7. Operation: Mindcrime - Queensr˙che (515)
8. The Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd (460)
9. Deadwing - Porcupine Tree (425)
10. Master of Puppets - Metallica (368)
11. Awake - Dream Theater (357)
12. Ghost Reveries - Opeth (351)
13. In Absentia - Porcupine Tree (336)
14. Addicted - Devin Townsend Project (327)
15. Fear of a Blank Planet - Porcupine Tree (317)
16. Terria - Devin Townsend (306)
16. Animals - Pink Floyd (306)
18. The Human Equation - Ayreon (302)
19. Lateralus - Tool (273)
20. Moving Pictures - Rush (269)

DTF Top 20 Artists (as of June 10, 2014)
1. Dream Theater (3748 points)
2. Porcupine Tree/SW/No-Man/Bass Comm (1820)
3. Devin Townsend/SYL (1696)
4. Opeth (1677)
5. Pink Floyd (1547)
6. Iron Maiden (1221)
7. Rush (1208)
8. Queensr˙che (849)
9. Metallica (808)
10. Between the Buried and Me (762)
11. Yes (685)
12. Coheed and Cambria (573)
13. Symphony X (538)
14. dredg (530)
15. Arjen Lucassen/Ayreon/Star One (519)
16. Mastodon (509)
17. Pain of Salvation (494)
18. Thrice (482)
19. Radiohead (475)
20. Led Zeppelin (473)

DTF Top 10 Years (as of October 3, 2013)
1. 2005 (3545 points)
2. 2007 (3021)
3. 2001 (2780)
4. 2002 (2714)
5. 2009 (2475)
6. 2011 (2258)
7. 2006 (2234)
8. 2003 (2173)
9. 1999 (1964)
10. 1998 (1844)
« Last Edit: June 30, 2016, 09:20:05 AM by Big Hath »
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 06:13:52 PM »
You can put me down in the "may go in the future" list.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 07:45:48 PM »
Like I said, I'd be ready to go if the people in front me aren't available. Not trying to pressure anyone, just trying to keep this going.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 07:47:27 PM »
Yeeeaaahh... I'm gonna be in the "May go in the future" list for a while - still working on it though. :)

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 12:51:33 AM »
You can move my name to the "may go in the future" list.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 09:32:32 AM »
Orthogonal is complete.  Still haven't heard from Dittomist - sent another PM today.  PM's also sent to everyone in the "future" list.

Lolzeez and Lowdz, we need one or both of you to go ahead with your lists.  Are you ready to go?

Scorpion, you are on standby.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 01:29:42 PM »
I can start sometime this weekend.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 01:37:29 PM »
awesome - go for it
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 02:10:40 PM »
I just added the composite top 10 DTF albums to the bottom of the OP.  More stats to follow.

Colors fell out of the top 5 as it was passed by both WYWH and O:MC.  Deadwing and DSOTM both jumped into the top 10, replacing Addicted (Devin Townsend Project) and The Alchemy Index (Thrice).

Images and Words has appeared on 67.4% of all top 50 lists.  6DOIT and Blackwater Park have both appeared on 44.2% of the lists.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 04:03:21 PM »
Thanks for taking this thread Big Hath, you're a perfect fit for it and it looks like you've brought your cattle prod too.

Can you shed some light on the scoring methodology? I'm assuming something like a #1 album is 50pts and a #50 album is 1pt or something like that.

One last question to indulge me. Did I have any DTF firsts for my Top 50?

Thanks,

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 10:16:28 PM »
Thanks for taking this thread Big Hath, you're a perfect fit for it and it looks like you've brought your cattle prod too.

Can you shed some light on the scoring methodology? I'm assuming something like a #1 album is 50pts and a #50 album is 1pt or something like that.

updated the OP with the info, but yeah that's the gist of it.


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One last question to indulge me. Did I have any DTF firsts for my Top 50?

lets see . . . looks like you had 13 first timers to the database:

Savatage - Dead Winter Dead
Seventh Wonder - Mercy Falls
Sieges Even - Paramount
Flaming Row - Elinoire
Ne Obliviscaris - Portal of I
Big Big Train - English Electric Part 2
Big Big Train - English Electric Part 1
Angra - Rebirth
Serenity - Fallen Sanctuary
Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
Our Lady Peace - Clumsy
Cloudscape - Global Drama
Live - Throwing Copper
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 10:29:29 PM »
Woah, figured maybe a few, but damn, 13 is a lot.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 10:35:59 PM »
eh, I haven't looked at that for everyone, but it may not be as high as you think.  I just looked at mine and I have 15 that haven't been mentioned by anyone else.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 10:49:45 PM »
went ahead and posted top 20 albums.  Master of Puppets was the only album that moved into the top 20 since the last time I ran these numbers.

Other big movers in the top 50 or so albums:

- Symphony X had two albums that made big jumps, V climbed 39 spots to #42 and Divine Wings went up 88 spots to get to #47.
- Opeth's Still Life moved ahead 45 spots to #38
- Radiohead's Kid A was passed by the most albums.  It lost 17 spots and now sits at #48.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2013, 09:35:45 AM »
a couple of notes on the artist ranking:

- Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson finally jumped over Devin Townsend/SYL.  Devin has 15 albums earning points to Wilson's 10, but 3 PT albums rank higher than Devin's highest ranking album.
- Opeth is now only 3 points behind Devin
- Rush eclipsed Iron Maiden with this update
- Queensr˙che jumped 6 spots to get into the top 10
- Symphony X jumped 10 spots to get into the top 20
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 10:26:48 AM »
Fantastic job compiling those top 20 lists!  great idea too.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 02:56:44 PM »
added top 10 years for music according to the top 50 lists

- 2005 continues to dominate, with 2007 still comfortably in second place.
- 2011 passed both 2006 and 2003, primarily on the strength of point gains from Visions (Haken), Grace For Drowning (Steven Wilson), A Dramatic Turn of Events (DT), and England Keep My Bones (Frank Turner).
- Interestingly, 2010 fell out of the top 10 as it was passed by 1999 and 1998 (and 1992).
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2013, 04:41:31 PM »
lets see . . . looks like you had 13 first timers to the database:

Seventh Wonder - Mercy Falls
Flaming Row - Elinoire

How the F? I had Mercy Falls at #2 on my second list and jingly had Elinoire at #1 on his second list. Are you not counting second lists then?

Also, I just noticed you have BTBAM's Parallax II in there twice, with different names (one starts with 'The' and is the correct title, as opposed to the one missing that word).
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2013, 05:03:23 PM »
How the F? I had Mercy Falls at #2 on my second list and jingly had Elinoire at #1 on his second list. Are you not counting second lists then?

I only input each person's top 50 into the database, so a second list doesn't go in unless it replaces the first one.  Since jingle's and your second lists were supplements to the first, they weren't counted.

Although I did notice in your thread you said "At the end of this list, I will combine both top 50's to create a new one that would be correct for all albums I have ever heard."  But I don't think you ever posted that list.  Post it and I will update your list in the database.


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Also, I just noticed you have BTBAM's Parallax II in there twice, with different names (one starts with 'The' and is the correct title, as opposed to the one missing that word).

thanks for that.  If anyone else catches any mistakes, please let me know.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2013, 05:06:37 PM »
Although I did notice in your thread you said "At the end of this list, I will combine both top 50's to create a new one that would be correct for all albums I have ever heard."  But I don't think you ever posted that list.  Post it and I will update your list in the database.

No, I never did. I never got round to combining the lists and let it go eventually.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 07:53:23 AM »
Love the work in the OP, that database.

I never knew that DTF would be this inbred in prog-metal. It's worse than expected, :lol.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 12:02:17 PM »
cool, glad you like it.  Trying to think of different interesting ways to slice up the info - maybe a top 20 artist/decade list or something like that.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2013, 12:38:06 PM »
Decade would be interesting. Think 00's would dominate heavily though.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2013, 12:44:05 PM »
well, I would separate it by band as also.  So 80s Metallica vs 70s Pink Floyd vs 00s Opeth and so on.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2013, 04:54:20 AM »
At me to the list if you don't mind, but sheesh, with a waiting list like that, I probably shouldn't compose my list now in case my opinions are radically different in two to three years LOL.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2013, 08:37:07 AM »
At me to the list if you don't mind, but sheesh, with a waiting list like that, I probably shouldn't compose my list now in case my opinions are radically different in two to three years LOL.

added, although with the rate people are moving to the "may go in the future" list, you may be up quicker than you think!
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2013, 09:04:16 AM »
"At me"

Oh, whoops. At any rate, thanks.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2013, 02:51:53 PM »
Just noticed my v2 is close to the top and I haven't even begun to think about it. Please let others go ahead of me. I'm in no rush at all.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2013, 11:11:35 AM »
PuffyPat and Mladen, are you about ready to go?  We've got Lolzeez and Scorpion close to wrapping their threads up, so start prepping your threads please.  Third PM sent to Dittomist, if I get no response I guess I'll just remove him from the list.

Nick, you mentioned a month or two back that you may be ready for your v2.  You ready to go now?
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2013, 10:10:59 AM »
I'm new around here, but I would like to do one - since the waiting list is quite long, I will be there for some time when my turns come  ;D.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2013, 10:16:13 AM »
Wow. I can't believe there is only one Rush album in the Top 20 and it's Moving Pictures, not even A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, or Permanent Waves.

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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2013, 10:53:55 AM »
I'm new around here, but I would like to do one - since the waiting list is quite long, I will be there for some time when my turns come  ;D.

added!


PuffyPat, you're up.
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2013, 10:56:56 AM »
Wow. I can't believe there is only one Rush album in the Top 20 and it's Moving Pictures, not even A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, or Permanent Waves.

A Farewell to Kings just missed at #22.

Hemispheres is at #54.  PeW is tied with 2112 at #107.  (Power Windows is actually higher than both at #72)
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Re: DTF Top 50 Albums Tracker Thread v2 - Now With Composite Rankings!
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2013, 07:35:11 PM »
I'm happy to get on the "may go" list  - I would love to do it but need plenty more time and thought. Numbers one, two and three are obvious to me but that's about it.  Recently had a corrupted iTunes library file and lost a lot of my ratings (I'm not good at doing this by memory) and I also have hundreds of CDs in my collection I've barely (or not) listened to.   

My list will be a bit more melodic rock/melodic metal + a touch of blues and a bit less prog rock/industrial etc... compared to most here but a bit of variety never hurt anyone  :D
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