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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2013, 10:13:36 PM »
Probably the worst "song" on the album, along with the Rush rip-off.

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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2013, 10:26:15 PM »
OK.  I have listened a few more times and it is growing on me.  I do agree that it is not melodic driven which I prefer.  They are having fun and the song does come across as more playful which is a plus.

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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2013, 11:24:41 PM »
I originally thought the section around 3:40 (that I have always liked a lot from the start) sounded very random and out of place, but it hit me today: it is very much like the slower section near the end of Rush's YYZ, and even seems to progress in a similar way in feel and tension.  That was probably intentional. 

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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2013, 10:29:31 AM »
I'm actually laughing how everyone was all hyped about getting an instrumental, then it ends up disappointing them.

This sounds like a more refined Raw Dog, I enjoy it a lot and know its going to slay live.
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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2013, 02:48:15 PM »
I really like Enigma Machine. It's got a lot of cool stuff, like the JP cartoon riff and some cool video game-y keyboard parts as well.
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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2013, 03:37:35 PM »
Probably the worst "song" on the album, along with the Rush rip-off.

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2013, 03:55:30 PM »
I love this track. Dat drum solo!

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« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2013, 07:17:25 PM »
I like it. I think when it comes to instrumentals from this band I prefer the more straightforward songs, like Erotomania and Hells Kitchen. I'm not big on either TDoE or SoC for different reasons and I think this one is much better than the latter 2.

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2013, 10:33:07 PM »

The slow part in this song reminds me of A Nightmare to Remember. 

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« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2013, 10:59:53 PM »
I really enjoy listening to this song. I think it's a great MM era instrumental. The ONLY thing I was disappointed by was the fact that he and John Myung didn't get more solo time.

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« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2013, 12:20:45 AM »
Seriously though...

This track is a major grower. At first I was a little weirded out by the main riff. Felt a little too whimsical. My first thought was the Pink Panther meets Inspector Gadget.

I actually thought it was more Mission Impossible meets Inspector Gadget. The riff is so crawly. When you think it ends, it doesn't. :D

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2013, 05:37:26 AM »
This sounds like a more refined Raw Dog
Me belching after too many tacos sounds like a more refined Raw Dog.

This is a well-constructed piece of music.
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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2013, 05:49:44 AM »
Probably the worst "song" on the album, along with the Rush rip-off.

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Its very sad that  people are not allowed their OWN opinions without having to put up with childish replies like that, just because you have a different opinion!

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2013, 05:56:43 AM »
You didn't think it was childish to label a song that the band has just released "a Rush rip-off"?  I'm all about people having different opinions, but let's have a little consistency.
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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2013, 01:00:37 AM »
This may not be many people's favorite instrumental (at least, it seems a lot of people rank it pretty low), but after having the CD for a week, this song has really grown on me. At this point I'd rank it as my #2 favorite. Its fun to listen to, it's heavy, and the solos are all killer. Biggest grower on the album. :metal
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« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2013, 01:38:01 AM »
Enigma Machine reminds me more of Rush than TLG does - It could almost be called "The Main Monkey Business Part 2". This is actually one of the more cleverly structured instrumentals DT have done, and I love it. That little refrain from "Surrender to Reason" seems out of place in the middle of it, but I love the way it reflects and repeats the main themes. One of the stronger tracks on the album.
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« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2013, 12:41:09 AM »
I like this more every time I hear it.  I love the "horror movie" style intro, that's new for them.  I can't get that part out of my head now.    Doo doo doo da-doo doo doo......

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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2013, 06:19:40 AM »
Anyone else think that the only reason Enigma Machine is not called The Enigma Machine is so that the track list wouldn't have four songs in a row beginning with "The"?

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2013, 06:24:41 AM »
Anyone else think that the only reason Enigma Machine is not called The Enigma Machine is so that the track list wouldn't have four songs in a row beginning with "The"?

No, although it's an interesting pattern!
I think that calling it "The" Enigma Machine would put too much emphasis on the noun itself, as if the song is actually related to that, but it's an instrumental, so really it's just chosen as a cool sounding name. So I think "Enigma Machine" sounds more fitting and mysterious, and chosen because it's a nice sounding combination of words, rather than sounding like it's a song based on the wikipedia page for coded messages during WW2.
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« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2013, 08:37:21 AM »
Anyone else think that the only reason Enigma Machine is not called The Enigma Machine is so that the track list wouldn't have four songs in a row beginning with "The"?

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2013, 08:38:54 AM »
Anyone else think that the only reason Enigma Machine is not called The Enigma Machine is so that the track list wouldn't have four songs in a row beginning with "The"?

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2013, 10:49:30 AM »
I have to say the solo Rudess comes in with at 3:06  sounds like hes rushing out the gates and it sounds awesome.  I love how the quick bass break before it helps the solo sound more intense.

I probably explained that terribly but summary = i love it.

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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2013, 11:56:02 AM »
I like the song - As a comparison, SOC is too long and drawn out like a lot of DT songs.  This one is just the right track length.  For some reason that first part of the song reminds me of a Godzilla movie, with monster high stepping down the streets of Tokyo.
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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2013, 12:42:29 PM »
I have to say the solo Rudess comes in with at 3:06  sounds like hes rushing out the gates and it sounds awesome.  I love how the quick bass break before it helps the solo sound more intense.

I probably explained that terribly but summary = i love it.

That part is cool, nice riff behind.
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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2013, 02:39:02 PM »
The whole thing just reminds me of a SPY MOVIE!

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« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2013, 05:11:33 PM »
I think it's a great song-- surprised by all the hate. MM is on fire.

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Re: Enigma Machine
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2013, 09:21:28 AM »
I think it's a great song-- surprised by all the hate. MM is on fire.
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« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2013, 05:42:51 PM »
I think the song is pretty awesome. I don't get the hate. I just wish that Myung's "solo" was longer.

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« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2013, 05:55:31 PM »
Freaking love this song! Dun dun du du du deeeeeeee

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« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2013, 06:12:56 PM »
Great piece of music IMO.  Still DT, but something a little different.  Although negative opinions may stand out to those who dig EM, the breakdown of posts from this topic are roughly this:
77% Positive
9% Neutral
14% Negative (and not all of that is really "Hate")

So there doesn't really appear to be a concerning amount of hate for EM.
 

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« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2013, 05:06:37 AM »
Yesterday, I had the first opportunity to listen to the whole album while driving. That's actually one of the most important music-listening contexts for me and always offers new perspective. I enjoyed EM so much that I had to rewind it 2 times before moving on. That didn't happen with any other song on the album. Loving every second of it. I gotta say, 2:01 - 2:33, at this point, is probably my favorite part of the album (besides minutes 11-13 of IT).
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« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2013, 05:14:00 AM »
Yesterday, I had the first opportunity to listen to the whole album while driving. That's actually one of the most important music-listening contexts for me and always offers new perspective.
Me too  :metal
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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2013, 10:20:39 AM »
I love the song. I don't know where I would rank it since my ranking of the album is still rotating a lot, with only the top 3 being solid at this point, but probably Enigma Machine will end up on the upper half.

I love the bit at 2:10 when Mangini lets the bass drum flurry out. I wasn't expecting it on the first listen and I couldn't help but laughing at how cool it sounded  :biggrin:

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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2013, 07:31:29 AM »
Don't like it.

Still listen to it to try to like it.

Still don't know exactly why I don't like it - yet ?

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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2013, 04:49:35 AM »
FINALLY the miracle happens!!

After many listening, I finally learned to love this huge piece of awesome music!! :metal

JP and JLB have already said that DT12 is an album with a "cinematographic atmosphere", and that's what Enigma Machine is all about!!
Sounds like an horror film soundtrack, and when you listen to it, it's like you were in a roller coaster ride!! :tup
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