Author Topic: King Crimson Appreciation Thread (Read 96101 times)

Mladen · « **Reply #140 on:** March 28, 2011, 12:03:46 PM »

I'm really looking forward to hearing this album. I just wish it was released under the name King Crimson. Why not? It's not like this is the first time that half of the band is changed.

The Letter M · « **Reply #141 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:58:57 PM »

I think maybe Fripp has become bored with the King Crimson name, but to have such a stellar cast of musicians on this album, many of which have played with KC or some sort of ProjeKct, it seems this will be a KC album but not in name.

I think once samples hit the internet, we'll probably see how and why this technically ISN'T a King Crimson album, but we'll probably hear how, in many ways, it is one. Either way, considering it's the first major studio album release to involve this many KC members since 2003's The Power To Believe, it's got me VERY excited, especially hearing Levin/Harrison...it'll be an ungodly rhythm section!!

-Marc.

Orbert · « **Reply #142 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:10:15 PM »

Silly name. Instead of just calling it a King Crimson album, it's a one-off from "A King Crimson ProjecKt".

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #143 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:11:20 PM »

Discipline is godly amirite?

ZBomber · « **Reply #144 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:11:53 PM »

ELEPHANT TALK

ELEPHANT TALK?!

Orbert · « **Reply #145 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:12:08 PM »

Urite.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #146 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:13:19 PM »

Quote from: ZBomber on March 28, 2011, 04:11:53 PM

ELEPHANT TALK

ELEPHANT TALK?!

Haha I remember the first time I heard that song. I thought it was genius.

ZBomber · « **Reply #147 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:14:30 PM »

My favorite on Discipline is easily Frame by Frame. Pure perfection.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #148 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:15:14 PM »

That's a great one too. My favourite is really tough between the first four.

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #149 on:** March 28, 2011, 05:06:39 PM »

Quote from: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 28, 2011, 04:11:20 PM

DISCIPLINE IS GODLY

Orbert · « **Reply #150 on:** March 28, 2011, 05:15:12 PM »

The 80's band was originally going to be called Discipline. At some point, Fripp decided that it should be called King Crimson. He has some kind of criteria for what makes a band worthy of being called King Crimson, but only he knows what it is, and he's not telling.

darkshade · « **Reply #151 on:** March 28, 2011, 05:46:15 PM »

looking forward to that new album. The ProjeKcts is basically a direct extension of King Crimson (think LTE as a direct extension of Dream Theater) so this is essentially a new Crimson album!

At this point, I'll take whatever new material I can from King Crimson or the ProjeKcts. This is the closest thing to KC we're gonna get right now

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #152 on:** March 28, 2011, 05:52:49 PM »

most of the fundamental (non-DGM Live series) ProjeKct releases are some of my favourite Crim records (blasphemy!), so i really don't see this as a bad thing whatsoever.

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #153 on:** March 28, 2011, 08:01:21 PM »

Quote from: ZBomber on March 28, 2011, 04:11:53 PM

ELEPHANT TALK

ELEPHANT TALK?!

I work with a guy that fucking HATES that song.

I play it all the time to irritate him.

Orbert · « **Reply #154 on:** March 28, 2011, 09:47:24 PM »

I like it, but I can definitely see how it could bug some people.

glaurung · « **Reply #155 on:** March 28, 2011, 09:52:29 PM »

It's an okay song. Definitely not one that I can listen to often, but in smaller doses I like it.

Nekov · « **Reply #156 on:** March 29, 2011, 04:17:20 AM »

A couple of weeks back I went to see Tony Levin live. He opened the show playing indiscipline

, with all the words in spanish cause he is such a cool guy, and closed with Elephant Talk.

So yeah, I love that song. But my favorite on that album is Discipline, so perfect.

sirbradford117 · « **Reply #157 on:** March 29, 2011, 05:23:43 AM »

Quote from: Orbert on March 28, 2011, 05:15:12 PM

The 80's band was originally going to be called Discipline. At some point, Fripp decided that it should be called King Crimson. He has some kind of criteria for what makes a band worthy of being called King Crimson, but only he knows what it is, and he's not telling.

"King Crimson exists where there is King Crimson music to be played."

Orbert · « **Reply #158 on:** March 29, 2011, 07:21:57 AM »

Ah, well that explains everything!

carl320 · « **Reply #159 on:** March 29, 2011, 09:49:07 AM »

I need more King Crimson. Red is a great album. Thinking about picking up Starless and Bible Black next.

Orbert · « **Reply #160 on:** March 29, 2011, 10:46:31 AM »

Do it! Also Lark's Tongues in Aspic. Same band, same period. Red is my favorite from that band, but they're all great, plus U.S.A. and The Night Watch, which are the live albums from that period.

The Letter M · « **Reply #161 on:** March 29, 2011, 10:56:08 AM »

The three Wetton-Era KC albums are by far some of my favorite albums! The song "Starless" is just amazing, and the first two parts of "Larks" are just mind-blowing. There are very few low-points among those three albums, and of the various incarnations of KC there are, the Wetton-Era one if my favorite because of how strong the material is on every album, although I do have to give credit to The Power To Believe for being an equally great album as it interests me more than Thrak or ConstruKction Of Light.

-Marc.

Orbert · « **Reply #162 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:21:48 AM »

Fripp once said that the Wetton-Bruford rhythm section was the most powerful rhythm section he'd ever played with, and also nearly impossible to play with (or maybe he said "solo over" - it was a long time ago). I'm not sure what he meant, but it probably had to do with the fact that both of them are very "busy" players. Wetton is very active, running all over the low end like he owns it, because he does. Bruford of course is a machine. He leaves space, but Wetton fills it up, leaving no room for Fripp.

Personally, I love their sound. Three guys firing on all eight cylinders. So powah! So heavy sound!

ytserush · « **Reply #163 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:45:48 PM »

This thread reminds me that I need to seriously binge on some Crimson, but when will I find the time?

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #164 on:** March 29, 2011, 03:46:56 PM »

1. In the Court of the Crimson King
2. Discipline
3. Red
4. Lizard
5. Larks Tongues in Aspic
6. The Power to Believe
7. Starless and Bible Black
8. THRaK
9. The ConstruKction of Light
10. Three of a Perfect Pair
11. In the Wake of Poseidon
12. Islands
13. Beat

millahh · « **Reply #165 on:** March 29, 2011, 05:15:43 PM »

Quote from: Orbert on March 29, 2011, 11:21:48 AM

Fripp once said that the Wetton-Bruford rhythm section was the most powerful rhythm section he'd ever played with, and also nearly impossible to play with (or maybe he said "solo over" - it was a long time ago). I'm not sure what he meant, but it probably had to do with the fact that both of them are very "busy" players. Wetton is very active, running all over the low end like he owns it, because he does. Bruford of course is a machine. He leaves space, but Wetton fills it up, leaving no room for Fripp.

Fripp has described it as "a flying brick wall".

LudwigVan · « **Reply #166 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:41:37 PM »

Quote from: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 29, 2011, 03:46:56 PM

1. In the Court of the Crimson King
2. Discipline
3. Red
4. Lizard
5. Larks Tongues in Aspic
6. The Power to Believe
7. In the Wake of Poseidon
8. Starless and Bible Black
9. THRaK
10. The ConstruKction of Light
11. Three of a Perfect Pair
12. Islands
13. Beat

Yup, that was a pretty big dropoff from Discipline to Beat. But I'd still rank Beat over Three of a Perfect Pair. It starts off well enough... I just can't get into the 2nd half of that album.

Orbert · « **Reply #167 on:** March 30, 2011, 04:41:17 PM »

Wow, that's pretty brutal. I like Beat almost as much as Discipline. Three of a Perfect Pair does drop off, but there's still some great stuff on it.

Nekov · « **Reply #168 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:53:34 AM »

Quote from: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 29, 2011, 03:46:56 PM

1. In the Court of the Crimson King
2. Discipline
3. Red
4. Lizard
5. Larks Tongues in Aspic
6. The Power to Believe
7. In the Wake of Poseidon
8. Starless and Bible Black
9. THRaK
10. The ConstruKction of Light
11. Three of a Perfect Pair
12. Islands
13. Beat

It always amazes me that people rank Islands so low. Why is that? That album has some great songs in it.
Also, Beat > Three of a perfect pair.
Also, your top 3 is

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #169 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:55:26 AM »

Islands isn't bad, I just never ever get any urge to listen to it. Plus, Sailor's Tale and the title track I could never get into.

Mladen · « **Reply #170 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:05:34 PM »

I'll give it a shot with ranking the albums:

1. Lizard
2. In The Court Of The Crimson King
3. Red
4. Lark's Tongues In Aspic
5. Discipline
6. The Power To Believe
7. Beat
8. Three Of A Perfect Pair
9. THRAK
10. Starless And Bible Black
11. The ConstruKction of Light
12. In The Wake Of Poseidon
13. Islands

Nekov · « **Reply #171 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:07:25 PM »

My Rank

1. In The Court Of The Crimson King
2. Discipline
3. Red
4. Lizard
5. Lark's Tongues In Aspic
6. Starless And Bible Black
7. Islands
8. The Power To Believe
9. Beat
10. The ConstruKction of Light
11. THRAK
12. In The Wake Of Poseidon
13. Three Of A Perfect Pair

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #172 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:14:36 PM »

my top three are probably The Power to Believe, THRAK, and Discipline (is that going to get me beaten up?!).

actually, if counting non-LP releases as well, i'd pick TPTB and its surrounding releases (Happy With What You Have to Be Happy With and Level Five, although the latter isn't quite so related). i just love that record and everything that went into/came out of it. also, a bootleg from the Tool tour and then Level Five were my intro to the band, so i guess i'm more favourable to the new stuff because of that.

for the rest, i'd throw ITCOTCK and Larks' Tongues on top of the pile with Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair, and then the rest i'm either pretty iffy about (not really into Lizard and i'm spotty for about half of Red) or dislike quite a bit (Poseidon, Islands, Starless, i find them extremely difficult to get into). The ConstruKction of Light would be great if the production and drum samples were up to par; the material is definitely strong, but i prefer the live versions on Level Five (for the title track) and Heavy ConstruKction (for everything else).

Nekov · « **Reply #173 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:23:08 PM »

Quote from: seasonsinthesky on March 31, 2011, 01:14:36 PM

my top three are probably The Power to Believe, THRAK, and Discipline (is that going to get me beaten up?!).

No one's gonna beat you up for that. Most likely it will be a clean throat cutting

Jokes aside, if that's what you like then it's perfectly fine.

Birch Boy · « **Reply #174 on:** March 31, 2011, 06:09:26 PM »

I might order it this weekend... toss-up between this and Phish's "Japan Relief": Field of Heaven, Fuji Rock Festival, Japan.

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

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