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Re: Job Interviewing - Do's and Don'ts
« Reply #245 on: February 16, 2017, 02:00:57 PM »
The company I'm at (Citi) does initial testing before you're hired, but they only continue testing you after you start if you work as a driver or something like that (which seems somewhat reasonable).

So last week I took a drug test for a new job. I drank a couple glasses of water that afternoon because I wanted to make sure I could go when I got there for the test. Today I got a call from the woman who interviewed me, telling me that my test came back as "negative - dilute." Now she's checking with her HR director to see what the next step is. I'm going to be really upset if I can't just go take the test again, because there's absolutely nothing in my system that I'm trying to hide.

So, I guess... don't stay hydrated, folks.
So they called me today and made me go immediately to take another test. I figured it was coming so I drank pretty much nothing today so as to avoid the dilution issue. Everything should be good to go now, thank god.

Drug tests really irritate me. The guy a few cubes down from me can't go a lunch break without getting a beer or two somewhere in the city, and he hits up a different happy hour every day after work, but if I want to smoke a joint once I'm home, that makes me kind of incompetent employee. I hate my job, and I haven't smoked in nearly four months now simply due to the off chance I might see a listing that catches my eye for something I'm actually interested in.


I've always felt very weird about having a beer at lunch during a work day. In almost four years I think I've done that twice.
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Re: Job Interviewing - Do's and Don'ts
« Reply #246 on: February 16, 2017, 02:02:06 PM »
My company is private, but likely to go public soon.  My boss has said he is worried they will implement drug testing once going public.  I don't think so, the company would fold.  Tech companies are filled with stoners and pill poppers.  Our competitors facebook and google don't drug test because it would severely limit the talent pool.

The FBI and CIA can't find top notch IT security personnel because they lose them all to Cali. Silicon valley doesn't control their personal habits outside of work. If you've smoked pot within the last three years, you can't work for the FBI. I think it was in Bloomberg, but I was reading something a few months ago that was talking about how a lot of the engineers and coders at google and facebook take tiny doses of LSD before their shifts to get the creative juices flowing.

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When I first started here it was crazy busy and understaffed and we worked like dogs.  Overnight weekends whatever.  I'm very much against doing any drugs besides marijuana personally, but my boss had told me a lot of people in the office were regularly taking uppers to be able to handle the work loads and stay awake.  I personally find that unhealthy and not cool, but luckily we've broken out of the start up phase.

I know that feeling. Cannabis is all I'll use these days (and not currently :( ). When I was in college though, my doctor prescribed me this stuff called Vyvanse. Holllllly fuck. I never once made the honor roll in grade school or highschool, and I nearly failed out of college twice before transferring to CCSU. I started taking this stuff, and all of a sudden it was like ever section of my brain was firing on all cylinders. I could finally 'read' for the first time in my life. I graduated with a 3.62 and in the top 10% of the school of business. The side effects were pretty nasty though. I think about getting back on it for the sake of work. My job would be a piece of cake, but I'd rather not deal with the side effects and possible problems down the road. 

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Re: Job Interviewing - Do's and Don'ts
« Reply #247 on: September 14, 2017, 08:24:09 PM »
Bump! 

I got a query via PM from someone, with the following situation:
-In a job ~4.5 years, had started looking for a similar position elsewhere, as the current workplace was toxic, stressful, and generally mismanaged
-Got a phone interview with a different place, but didn't hear back for a while, figured they were not interested in him
-Wound up quitting the original job for general suckage (finances not an issue)
-Place with the phone interview winds up calling him back after he'd already quit the original place

His questions are:
1). Have I screwed myself on the new job by quitting the original job?
2). How do I talk about having quit the original job?

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My thoughts are:

1). They already saw your resume and you already had the phone interview.  I think you're past the window where not having a current job could be seen as a negative.  I think the whole "if you don't have a job, you must be unemployable" thing is horseshit, but regardless you are past the gatekeeper because they saw your resume, talked to you, and want to bring you in for a real interview.  You've demonstrated that you're employable.  I'm not even sure that you're obligated to tell them that you quit your old job (unless directly asked), your resume was accurate at the time they read it.

2). You don't want to disparage your old employer, as the natural reaction to seeing that is to assume that you'll trash them on the way out the door as well.  You might be able to say that you had outgrown it, and were in a position to be able to leave and open yourself up to new challenges.  You may also be able to talk about some of the things you learned from that experience tat you could bring to the new position, but do it in such a way that you're not throwing the old employer under the bus.

Very curious for other folks' thoughts on this, especially the second question...

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Re: Job Interviewing - Do's and Don'ts
« Reply #248 on: September 14, 2017, 09:37:52 PM »
Having quit my last job (also for general suckage), leading to an employment gap prior to my current job, I'm curious what people think about it as well. It eventually worked out for me, but that was an extremely stressful time.

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Re: Job Interviewing - Do's and Don'ts
« Reply #249 on: September 15, 2017, 07:54:11 AM »

His questions are:
1). Have I screwed myself on the new job by quitting the original job?
2). How do I talk about having quit the original job?

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My thoughts are:

1). They already saw your resume and you already had the phone interview.  I think you're past the window where not having a current job could be seen as a negative.  I think the whole "if you don't have a job, you must be unemployable" thing is horseshit, but regardless you are past the gatekeeper because they saw your resume, talked to you, and want to bring you in for a real interview.  You've demonstrated that you're employable.  I'm not even sure that you're obligated to tell them that you quit your old job (unless directly asked), your resume was accurate at the time they read it.

2). You don't want to disparage your old employer, as the natural reaction to seeing that is to assume that you'll trash them on the way out the door as well.  You might be able to say that you had outgrown it, and were in a position to be able to leave and open yourself up to new challenges.  You may also be able to talk about some of the things you learned from that experience tat you could bring to the new position, but do it in such a way that you're not throwing the old employer under the bus.

Very curious for other folks' thoughts on this, especially the second question...

I agree with your assessment.  The fact that he received a call back from the new potential employer is a good sign, but if it doesn't work out, he's already quit the current job.  I don't think it will have any impact.

As to the second question, if it comes up during the interview, I'd be honest and respectful.  Admit that you have already resigned and talk about the prior employer in a positive manner.  It can be framed in a way that there were just disagreements in how to handle _____ situations, etc..  Whatever the situation may be.  It also gives the candidate an opportunity to say "I'm available to start RIGHT NOW," rather than having to wait X number of weeks out of respect to the prior employer.  That is a big plus for some people who need a new hired to start asap.