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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4060 on: January 11, 2017, 06:27:53 PM »
No SOTB is a major fail.

The original cover for KEA was much better.

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« Reply #4061 on: January 12, 2017, 03:40:05 AM »
I finally bought Kill Em All Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning on CD

I shoulda waited a bit longer as Kill & Ride were both the re-mastered editions.

Master Re-Mastered is due out this year. I could have got that too. Never mind.
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« Reply #4062 on: January 12, 2017, 06:58:28 AM »
New songs sounded pretty good in those videos. Het's voice was holding up nice.

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« Reply #4063 on: January 12, 2017, 08:48:58 AM »
He always sounds good at the start of a tour.

By the end there's no grit left.


But they're doing 50 shows a year nowadays and 2 or 3 days off at least between shows so we'll see.

Long gone are the days of 3 year tours playing 5 days a week.
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« Reply #4064 on: January 12, 2017, 08:53:50 AM »
He always sounds good at the start of a tour.

By the end there's no grit left.


But they're doing 50 shows a year nowadays and 2 or 3 days off at least between shows so we'll see.

Long gone are the days of 3 year tours playing 5 days a week.

Yeah I saw that they said they were basically limiting themselves to 50 shows a year. That's a good thing for sure, depending on how exactly they schedule it, it could do a world of good for Het's voice.

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« Reply #4065 on: January 12, 2017, 08:56:29 AM »
You could see it two ways.

Playing 250 shows a year would either be awesome practice for them and by the end they'd be playing the arse out of the songs

- OR -

By the end they'd be so exhausted that they'd go back to playing really sloppy like in 2004.


Lars especially has only been improving for a long time and if limiting himself to 50 shows a year keeps that going - i'm all for it.
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« Reply #4066 on: January 12, 2017, 09:44:10 AM »
Yea I caught that in one of the links posted here, 50 shows seems good for Metallica.  Plus it's not like their shows are all close by on a typical tour so they do a lot of travel and time zone changes which for anyone who travels, knows how tired that makes you.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4067 on: January 14, 2017, 02:42:51 AM »
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« Reply #4068 on: January 14, 2017, 07:38:29 AM »
I finally bought Kill Em All Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning on CD

I shoulda waited a bit longer as Kill & Ride were both the re-mastered editions.

Master Re-Mastered is due out this year. I could have got that too. Never mind.

I kind of wish they wouldn't remaster MoP. It's perfect as is and once the remastered version of an album is released, it's almost impossible to find the original version. Besides, that's not the classic Metallica album that needs a remix and remaster (*cough* AJFA *cough*).

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4069 on: January 14, 2017, 07:41:37 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFX9sJwYwGA

Now That We're Dead

Official Live Debut.

 :metal :metal

Sadly the drums are a bit low on this mix and for a rare time, it's a song where I really like Lars' playing.  Still, I love how Metallica get's these pro shot videos of the new songs live out so quickly.

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« Reply #4070 on: January 14, 2017, 07:42:22 AM »

I kind of wish they wouldn't remaster MoP. It's perfect as is and once the remastered version of an album is released, it's almost impossible to find the original version. Besides, that's not the classic Metallica album that needs a remix and remaster (*cough* AJFA *cough*).

Remasters are often about milking the cash cow.  Like you said, Master of Puppets sounds great as is.  The remaster will probably make it louder and squash the dynamics.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4071 on: January 14, 2017, 08:03:21 AM »
The remaster of KEA sounds really good from what I've heard. Not much louder, but gives a boost to certain frequencies that brings out the crunch of the guitars and the clarity of the bass. I'd actually favour that over the original CD release.
The remaster of RTL is just crushing the dynamics. It doesn't sound terrible, but the original pressing sounds superior. What you'd expect from a modern remaster, unfortunately.

MOP does sound great as is, although like KEA they could potentially make it sound even a little better. I expect it will end up more like the RTL remaster though. No big loss though, the original pressing sounds good already, so I'll keep listening to that. :hat

I'm still curious to find out what they do with AJFA. It's a real opportunity to correct a major production fault and have the mix fixed, perhaps as a bonus disc to a more standard remaster for those who want to hear it unaltered. I'm getting my hopes up big time with that wish though. :lol
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« Reply #4072 on: January 14, 2017, 09:04:00 AM »
It's Black, Load and Reload that don't need any touch ups. They're almost sonically perfect as they are.

How can you improve on The Black Album's production ?

You Can't.
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« Reply #4073 on: January 14, 2017, 09:06:13 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFX9sJwYwGA

Now That We're Dead

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Sadly the drums are a bit low on this mix and for a rare time, it's a song where I really like Lars' playing.  Still, I love how Metallica get's these pro shot videos of the new songs live out so quickly.


Exactly. One live video was up the very next day. It may have been Hardwired live from MN. So yeah they get em out quick. The video and audio are great for what they are ( FREE ).

So no complaints. Plus they're put out so quickly that you know all the flubs are left in.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4074 on: January 14, 2017, 09:07:49 AM »
I guarantee they'll balls up TBA. The standard approach for albums from that era is to boost the mids / cut the lows to remove that signature bassy sound, then compress. They can just re-release it as is, and call it a day.
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« Reply #4075 on: January 14, 2017, 09:09:56 AM »
I might get it on Vinyl whilst I can. I've got the CD already but might be nice to hear it on Vinyl too.

I'm still waiting for my copy of Hardwired To Self Destruct on Vinyl.

I got it thru my bro coz he works for Universal and can get discount. Only trouble is - I have to wait til they have the records in stock.

He's got himself Reload too.


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Finally i'm pretty close to calling Hardwired To Self Destruct my 3rd favourite Metallica album after Master Of Puppets and The Black Album.

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« Reply #4076 on: January 14, 2017, 02:41:03 PM »
Finally i'm pretty close to calling Hardwired To Self Destruct my 3rd favourite Metallica album after Master Of Puppets and The Black Album.

That's a bold statement - over RTL???

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« Reply #4077 on: January 14, 2017, 02:41:35 PM »
Yeah I don't like Trapped Under Ice or Escape and there's nothing on Hardwired I don't enjoy.
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« Reply #4078 on: January 14, 2017, 02:44:37 PM »
Yeah I don't like Trapped Under Ice or Escape and there's nothing on Hardwired I don't enjoy.

I love every song on RTL, which is why it's my favorite album of all time. I could do without Murder One and ManUNkind.

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« Reply #4079 on: January 14, 2017, 02:55:14 PM »
I'd like to send a special thanks to the juniors of the Hetfield family now that I know it's because of them there's less "-UH" on Hardwired than there was on Death Magnetic. Check it out :lol
Watching these "Making Of" videos, I got the same impression I got back when I saw the making of Death Magnetic, Greg Fidelman is the biggest ass-kissing yes-man Metallica has ever worked with. Both as engineer and as producer, which is okay cause it works for them I guess.
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« Reply #4080 on: January 14, 2017, 02:57:36 PM »
Not complaining if it gets results like HTSD.
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« Reply #4081 on: January 14, 2017, 03:06:03 PM »
Hardwired is a great record, with a whole bunch of songs that are some work away from perfection, I won't blame that "some work" not getting done on Greg Fidelman's attitude, cause Metallica certainly have become lazy song writers with age, but I think his attitude contributed to it.
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« Reply #4082 on: January 14, 2017, 03:22:02 PM »
I think it's their most focussed album since Load at least. Definitely "Metallica".
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4083 on: January 14, 2017, 05:46:06 PM »
Anyone else think the Mercyful Fate medley on Garage Inc is one of the greatest things Metallica ever recorded?? It's perfect in every way  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

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« Reply #4084 on: January 14, 2017, 06:00:26 PM »
Anyone else think the Mercyful Fate medley on Garage Inc is one of the greatest things Metallica ever recorded?? It's perfect in every way  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Totally!! It flows so well and feels like their own song. Sometimes I forget it's a cover medley

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« Reply #4085 on: January 14, 2017, 06:06:46 PM »
I'll be honest, I've had a few drinks and it came on my ipod whilst I was walking home. I stand by my statement though, it's just perfect and I air guitared all the way home  :metal

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« Reply #4086 on: January 14, 2017, 09:24:35 PM »
I just had a friend share a boot from the Seattle RtL show.   It's not very good quality, but it's got a sentimental value because it was their first show here. 

The fire and energy still comes through in spite of the poor quality.
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« Reply #4087 on: January 14, 2017, 10:13:30 PM »
I was listening to Here Comes Revenge earlier in the car, these lyrics man..

Iíve been here since dawn of time
Countless hatreds built my shrine
I was born in angerís flame
He was Abel, I was Cain


I was listening to that and suddenly found myself remembering something MP said to JP while recording back vocals together for In The Presence of Enemies, "These are some fuckin metal lyrics man, you took your evil pills this week" :lol
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« Reply #4088 on: January 15, 2017, 03:33:24 AM »
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« Reply #4089 on: January 15, 2017, 03:34:36 AM »
I was listening to Here Comes Revenge earlier in the car, these lyrics man..


Some good lyrics on this album on the whole. They really stepped up on this album in every dept.
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« Reply #4090 on: January 15, 2017, 07:32:51 AM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPSc1OBDw14/

^ ^ Setlist for Shanghai. Interesting set. They were not allowed to play certain songs due to censorship.
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« Reply #4091 on: January 15, 2017, 07:58:05 AM »
I found this list of songs approved for the Chinese shows:

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« Reply #4092 on: January 15, 2017, 08:08:02 AM »
Are the Chinese versions of all albums just four songs long? :lol
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« Reply #4093 on: January 15, 2017, 08:09:44 AM »
Are the Chinese versions of all albums just four songs long? :lol

They released So What as a single in China and it was 3 minutes of silence :biggrin:
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« Reply #4094 on: January 15, 2017, 09:24:51 AM »
Great record. I'm surprised it's getting such great reception though because I thought everyone was waiting for another thrash metal album? Hardwired is more like the Black. album, with a couple thrashy moments here and there.

And everyone shits on DM. I realize the production sucked but THAT was a old school thrash metal album.