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« Reply #1015 on: March 18, 2014, 01:37:49 PM »
The only song I can think of from Justice that underwhelms me is probably The Shortest Straw, which is still a pretty solid song. I probably have a slight bias for the album though, since it was my first full Metallica album, but I love it nonetheless.

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« Reply #1016 on: March 18, 2014, 01:40:15 PM »
Aside from the production, I find AJFA to be Metallica's masterpiece. I love how dark and angry it is. Blackened is definitely my favorite Metallica song. :metal
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« Reply #1017 on: March 18, 2014, 02:34:48 PM »
Aside from the production, I find AJFA to be Metallica's masterpiece. I love how dark and angry it is. Blackened is definitely my favorite Metallica song. :metal
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« Reply #1018 on: March 18, 2014, 02:57:18 PM »
If their new record doesn't have audiophile quality sonics I'm disappointed. They almost owe the world an antidote for Death Magnetic.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1019 on: March 18, 2014, 05:13:00 PM »
Master is easily their best. A masterpiece start to finish with AJFA close behind.

I'd agree on MOP but (One aside) nothing on AJFA comes close for me.
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« Reply #1020 on: March 18, 2014, 08:16:32 PM »
I'd probably take Justice over Puppets.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1021 on: March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 PM »
I'd take RTL over Puppets.

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« Reply #1022 on: March 18, 2014, 08:42:07 PM »
I'd take RTL over Puppets.

I think I might actually agree with that.
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« Reply #1023 on: March 18, 2014, 08:43:43 PM »
I'd take RTL over Puppets.
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« Reply #1024 on: March 18, 2014, 08:47:55 PM »
As great as Ride is, it's got Escape, which is almost completely forgettable IMO. The album is definitely much more raw than Puppets, but I take Puppets quite easily for its variety. It feels like it has many more layers to it and the track listing is consistently amazing throughout. To me, it's really no contest.

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« Reply #1025 on: March 18, 2014, 08:49:39 PM »
As great as Ride is, it's got Escape, which is almost completely forgettable IMO. The album is definitely much more raw than Puppets, but I take Puppets quite easily for its variety. It feels like it has many more layers to it and the track listing is consistently amazing throughout. To me, it's really no contest.

I was never that big on Leper Messiah and The Thing.  That lets Puppets down a little.  Escape IMO is pretty good.
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« Reply #1026 on: March 18, 2014, 08:52:48 PM »
As great as Ride is, it's got Escape, which is almost completely forgettable IMO. The album is definitely much more raw than Puppets, but I take Puppets quite easily for its variety. It feels like it has many more layers to it and the track listing is consistently amazing throughout. To me, it's really no contest.

I was never that big on Leper Messiah and The Thing.  That lets Puppets down a little.  Escape IMO is pretty good.

I love those two. :'( Definitely underrated Metallica songs, personally, and their just absolutely killer.

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« Reply #1027 on: March 18, 2014, 09:12:52 PM »
I'd take RTL over Puppets.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1028 on: March 18, 2014, 09:13:10 PM »
Aside from the production, I find AJFA to be Metallica's masterpiece. I love how dark and angry it is. Blackened is definitely my favorite Metallica song. :metal

I rank AJFA higher than MoP too, it's just that the awful production makes it unlistenable these days, unfortunately. I'm hoping that some day Metallica released a remixed version of the album that isn't ballsed up in other ways.
I've never liked RTL much as an album despite having some great songs, so I'd rank KEA higher overall.
My ranking for the thrash era albums would be - AJFA, MOP, KEA, RTL
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1029 on: March 18, 2014, 09:15:01 PM »
I'd take RTL over Puppets.

I think I might actually agree with that.

Likewise. It's right behind AJFA for me. :metal I'll need to listen to Kill 'Em All again to see what I think of that album nowadays though. :tup
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« Reply #1030 on: March 18, 2014, 09:23:50 PM »
Escape is awesome.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1031 on: March 18, 2014, 09:24:28 PM »
As great as Ride is, it's got Escape, which is almost completely forgettable IMO. The album is definitely much more raw than Puppets, but I take Puppets quite easily for its variety. It feels like it has many more layers to it and the track listing is consistently amazing throughout. To me, it's really no contest.

Escape is great AND memorable.

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« Reply #1032 on: March 18, 2014, 09:25:39 PM »
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« Reply #1033 on: March 18, 2014, 09:38:02 PM »
Escape isn't terrible or anything, but it sorta feels like the dent in RTL to me. It's listenable, but much better songs overshadowing it.

I would suppose I'm in the minority with this, but oh well. :lol I don't mean to understate how much I love RTL, it's an amazing album.

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« Reply #1034 on: March 18, 2014, 09:38:51 PM »
Actually, from what I've seen, most people seem to feel that way about Escape. 
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« Reply #1035 on: March 18, 2014, 09:41:42 PM »
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« Reply #1036 on: March 18, 2014, 09:48:47 PM »
Even as a filler track, Escape is not that good. It's not terrible, but as ThatOneGuy said, it's forgettable. It's better than Fight Fire With Fire and Trapped Under Ice, but that's not saying much.
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« Reply #1037 on: March 18, 2014, 10:03:06 PM »
It's better than Fight Fire With Fire and Trapped Under Ice, but that's not saying much.

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« Reply #1038 on: March 18, 2014, 10:07:49 PM »
Escape would fit perfectly on The Black Album. It would need some simpler drumming though.

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« Reply #1039 on: March 19, 2014, 09:34:40 AM »
I am not even that big a metal fan (and usually do not like thrash), but Master of Puppets is pretty much one awesome song after another. 

I remember when I got into it, being shocked at how melodic some of the songs were, considering how heavy and fast they were.  I think that is why it is so popular: it has a raw energy and power that is infectious, and also has memorable melodies, so you get the best of both worlds.

Nothing else they've done comes close to it, IMO.

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« Reply #1040 on: March 19, 2014, 10:23:31 AM »
I think Metallica had awesome melody as well as production.

I think And Justice For All is largely melody free and is just a dirge at some points.

I don't think anything they've done since Metallica has combined the same concise songwriting with the same melody.

Load is smothered in Melody but the songs for the most part are quite bloated.

The best 6 songs from both Load & Reload would have made a good successor to Metallica.

St Anger was acceptable as a one-off as it was made by a very different band who needed to make that album to survive.

Death Magnetic was deliberately trying to write a Master Of Puppets part 2.

For their next album - they really just need to focus on good songs. Not try and force 10 x 8 minute thrash classics.

The Lords Of Summer shows promise. It's long but doesn't feel as forced or as cut&paste as most of DM.

If they can just jam - write - and keep the best *songs* - whatever form they take AND have good production - the next album could be great.

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« Reply #1041 on: March 19, 2014, 10:28:28 AM »
Ooh - by the way :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOtev3rEKI

The Lords Of Summer - Official Studio Version.

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« Reply #1042 on: March 19, 2014, 10:31:04 AM »
Some of those early riffs sound right out of The Judas Kiss.

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« Reply #1043 on: March 19, 2014, 10:42:31 AM »
I like this song a lot.

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« Reply #1044 on: March 19, 2014, 10:50:21 AM »
I like this song a lot.
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Regarding Lords of Summer: good song. Lars' double bassing isn't quite tight on the Studio Demo though.

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« Reply #1045 on: March 19, 2014, 11:03:15 AM »
Lars is decent - but James voice is fantastic on that !

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1046 on: March 19, 2014, 11:07:40 AM »
Ooh - by the way :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOtev3rEKI

The Lords Of Summer - Official Studio Version.

Nice, I'd take an album's worth of that!
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1047 on: March 19, 2014, 11:08:54 AM »
Wow, I'm impressed. Solid song.

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« Reply #1048 on: March 19, 2014, 11:09:44 AM »
I'm digging Lars' double bass action here. Hopefully there's also improvement in the studio album version.

And damn, James' voice. :metal

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« Reply #1049 on: March 19, 2014, 11:16:40 AM »
Ooh - by the way :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOtev3rEKI

The Lords Of Summer - Official Studio Version.
Well, Demo version, but man this sounds great!