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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #420 on: October 09, 2013, 09:37:23 AM »
Lars is entirely right on that point. They should make music when they want to make music.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #421 on: October 09, 2013, 09:44:15 AM »
I am a fan that feels they do have a responsibility. Sort of. Responsibility probably isn't the right word, but sometimes you've gotta look at yourself through the fans eyes.

And while they do rotate their set;lists, I feel like they've been playing the same set for the last 7 years or so. C'mon!!
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« Reply #422 on: October 09, 2013, 10:32:43 AM »
I'm a fan that doesn't give a flying potato fuck how often they make albums but don't appreciate the snob douchebagery of Ulrich's attitude towards the fans who do.
On the other hand here's how Hetfeild responds to the new record question.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #423 on: October 18, 2013, 01:32:39 PM »
"Hopefully" start "sometimes in the spring".  :lol

I'm pretty much done with Metallica.



If the next record is great - fantastic. But if it's a stinker - I think they should really call it a day. If it takes them another 7 years to release album #11 then they will all be pushing 60 by then.

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« Reply #424 on: October 18, 2013, 01:41:21 PM »
They were one of the first metal bands I got into, and I still like their music a lot.  Justice is my favorite...I like how the sound is so "brutal"...my best way of describing it.  Plus it helped me get over a bad breakup, I blasted it in my ears a lot, it kind of numbed me.  Ride is #2, I like the dark vibe of it and the cover, and I don't mind Escape.  I gotta say DM is #3, it's a good mix of new and old.  Load and Reload are just OK to me, they're not as hardcore as the earlier albums.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #425 on: October 18, 2013, 01:43:17 PM »
I like Load & Reload a lot more than most Metallica fans.  I don't mind spinning some of St. Anger now and again and Death Magnetic is just "decent".

But with all their extra-curricular activities - they're slowly becoming more and more of a laughing stock.

They're going to be remembered as the St. Anger 3d movie and Lou Reed album band instead of the Master of Puppets and Black album band.

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« Reply #426 on: October 18, 2013, 02:15:02 PM »
Hey Lars, I don't think Metallica is at risk of 'churning out records'. It's just a baffling silly thing for him to say, given their output these days. I could see him saying that if they fans were demanding a new record every year or two. However, it's more the fans wondering out of curiosity if they're working on anything, given it has been five years since their last release, and they're saying it will probably be six or seven by the time it's said and done.

Obviously a band has no obligation to the fans to put out records, but when you're only putting out a record every six or seven years, it's not unreasonable for people to ask when you're releasing new material.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #427 on: October 18, 2013, 02:32:21 PM »
Metallica "churning out records"???  What a joke.  They can't stop touring long enough to make an album, where DT makes an album every 2 years and we never hear of them being broke.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #428 on: October 18, 2013, 04:16:40 PM »
Metallica "churning out records"???  What a joke.  They can't stop touring long enough to make an album, where DT makes an album every 2 years and we never hear of them being broke.

DT's business model is a shining example of how to run a band. This is why they've continually grown in popularity for their 30 year career.

If they're not in the studio making a record - they're touring or an album is imminent. There's always something going on with them.

Metallica are either doing mini-tours every so often, doing some bizarre pet project or doing nothing.

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« Reply #429 on: October 20, 2013, 11:03:25 PM »
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« Reply #430 on: October 21, 2013, 11:42:56 AM »
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« Reply #431 on: October 21, 2013, 06:35:32 PM »
So I was watching this ungodly motherfucker of a video the other night, and something occurred to me. Newsted is the original Portnoy. They both quit. They were both replaced by somebody vastly superior in terms of talent. Both bands took a devastating hit in their live show because of the intangibles that both brought. I really haven't been able to look at either band in the same light with the new guys. No point in having a Portnoy/Mangini discussion; that things been beaten to death elsewhere. Anybody here really think Metallica is the same band with Trujillo, though? The guy's 10x the bass player Newsted was, but that just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It's not Metallica anymore, AFAIC.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #432 on: October 21, 2013, 07:36:55 PM »
Rob might play with his fingers but jason had fucking loads more attitude and could do back up vocals.

Mangini is technically better than Portnoy in every way. ( as far as actual ability & technique goes ).



When Jason left - Metallica did nothing for two years, then released the SKOM movie, released St. Anger, Lulu, Thru The Never and Death Magnetic.


When Portnoy left - Dream Theater carried on writing and releasing great albums as if nothing had happened.



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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #433 on: October 21, 2013, 08:48:20 PM »
Rob might play with his fingers but jason had fucking loads more attitude and could do back up vocals.

Mangini is technically better than Portnoy in every way. ( as far as actual ability & technique goes ).

Well you mentioned vocals for Newstead, which is an area that they are lacking now without MP.


But really, I don't see a comparison. They both quit, that's about it.
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« Reply #434 on: October 21, 2013, 09:39:43 PM »
In both cases, I'd say it was sad to see the old member go, but in both cases, they brought in someone fantastic.
I would say that DT has done a better job in carrying on as far as new music output goes.

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« Reply #435 on: October 21, 2013, 11:15:14 PM »
I love Jason as a person and a bass player....but the material Metallica released with him was, to me, the most subpar material.   (with the exception of AJFA, which was not as good as the previous two albums, but was their last GREAT album)

I had really hoped he would go back to F&J at some point.    THAT would have been incredible, and I think it may have taken F&J to a whole new level. 

I had high hopes for his stint with Voivod, but that was disappointing.   And don't get me started on that supergroup....disaster.

Jason is an awesome guy, but he's made some incredibly poor decisions after leaving Metallica. 
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #436 on: October 22, 2013, 07:50:30 AM »
I always thought Jason should front a band but it's a shame that it took him ten years to get around to it.


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« Reply #437 on: October 22, 2013, 09:44:05 AM »
Bart, I thought about your post and I hear what you're saying, but I don't really look at it that way. Jason was cool and all, but Trujillo has enough old school cred, and I think has has a better chance of keeping them honest. The problem that is plaguing the Trujillo era is the lack of material. He's been in the band for ten years and they've made one album with him. I'm actually taking it over at least two of the four Jason albums.


And J Dude, I thought F&J lost more when Troy Gregory left them than when Jason left. Their album this year was very disappointing considering Gilbert, Carlson, and Kelly Smith were all back.
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« Reply #438 on: October 22, 2013, 09:54:30 AM »

And J Dude, I thought F&J lost more when Troy Gregory left them than when Jason left. Their album this year was very disappointing considering Gilbert, Carlson, and Kelly Smith were all back.

But Troy left a long time ago just as Jason was really hitting the big time with Metallica.   It would have been more ideal if he had returned when he left Metallica around 2000.   If that reunion would have happened, he would have been on the albums from My God going forward. 

But even if he would have still decided to do the thing with Voivod...having him on the last couple of F&J released I think would have been really cool.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #439 on: October 22, 2013, 09:58:00 AM »
Yeah it would've. But Jason Ward had been there since Troy left. Bass isn't their problem.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #440 on: October 22, 2013, 05:15:29 PM »
Bart, I thought about your post and I hear what you're saying, but I don't really look at it that way. Jason was cool and all, but Trujillo has enough old school cred, and I think has has a better chance of keeping them honest. The problem that is plaguing the Trujillo era is the lack of material. He's been in the band for ten years and they've made one album with him. I'm actually taking it over at least two of the four Jason albums.
Respectfully disagree. The lack of new material doesn't explain why their old songs no longer have any balls when they play them now. Part of that is that they're old and they're complacent; not Trujillo's fault. At the same time, I have to wonder if they'd be old and complacent with Newsted still in the band. I saw Newsted essentially front that band during a Summer Sanitarium show, and it was intense as all fuck. Four years later I saw them with Trujillo and it was pretty subdued and lacked liveliness. Quite frankly they seem bored when they play now; just going through the motions.

Well you mentioned vocals for Newstead, which is an area that they are lacking now without MP.
Which led to a switch to a click-track to accommodate sequenced vocals. While I seem to be the only one that cares about that, it is nevertheless a significant change in how they approach the live aspect of their band.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
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« Reply #442 on: October 23, 2013, 04:21:03 AM »
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« Reply #443 on: October 23, 2013, 04:47:51 AM »
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« Reply #444 on: October 23, 2013, 11:20:03 AM »
more like gimme fuel FOR my fire
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« Reply #447 on: October 24, 2013, 10:09:03 AM »
https://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/music/news/metallica-to-play-antarctica-this-december/

Metallica to play in Antarctica?

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« Reply #448 on: October 24, 2013, 10:17:33 AM »
...aaaaaaaaaaaand Metallica have just announced it on their website & Facebook. DAFUQ

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« Reply #449 on: October 24, 2013, 10:42:10 AM »
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« Reply #450 on: October 24, 2013, 11:38:26 AM »
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« Reply #451 on: October 24, 2013, 11:52:04 AM »
What's hilarious is that Fall Out Boy thought of it first.  :rollin
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« Reply #452 on: October 24, 2013, 04:15:02 PM »
So I was watching this ungodly motherfucker of a video the other night, and something occurred to me. Newsted is the original Portnoy. They both quit. They were both replaced by somebody vastly superior in terms of talent. Both bands took a devastating hit in their live show because of the intangibles that both brought. I really haven't been able to look at either band in the same light with the new guys. No point in having a Portnoy/Mangini discussion; that things been beaten to death elsewhere. Anybody here really think Metallica is the same band with Trujillo, though? The guy's 10x the bass player Newsted was, but that just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It's not Metallica anymore, AFAIC.

That 1989 Seattle show is the best concert DVD hands down.  Metallica was at the top of their game.

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« Reply #453 on: October 24, 2013, 07:01:45 PM »
those late 80s/early 90s live shows were off the freaking hook awesome
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« Reply #454 on: October 24, 2013, 07:10:38 PM »
So I was watching this ungodly motherfucker of a video the other night, and something occurred to me. Newsted is the original Portnoy. They both quit. They were both replaced by somebody vastly superior in terms of talent. Both bands took a devastating hit in their live show because of the intangibles that both brought. I really haven't been able to look at either band in the same light with the new guys. No point in having a Portnoy/Mangini discussion; that things been beaten to death elsewhere. Anybody here really think Metallica is the same band with Trujillo, though? The guy's 10x the bass player Newsted was, but that just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It's not Metallica anymore, AFAIC.

That 1989 Seattle show is the best concert DVD hands down.  Metallica was at the top of their game.

I went to both nights....those shows were amazing.   (it was filmed over two back to back nights)
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