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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #245 on: August 21, 2013, 09:46:37 AM »
We should just all agree to disagree about Megadeth/Metallica :)
But don't we want this to become like a Youtube comments section ???

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #246 on: August 21, 2013, 09:59:28 AM »
OMG GO BACK TO YOUR MAMA. CLIFF BURTON IS GOD. BEST BASSIST EVER. NEWSTED PLAYED WITH A GOD DAMNED PICK !!!!!!!!!!


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I love that argument. Playing with a pick creates a different SOUND but playing with your fingers is seen as "correct" and " better".

Mark Knopfler plays guitar with his fingers and he's one the best guitarists ever. Should he use a pick ? Is that " correct " ?

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #247 on: August 26, 2013, 07:55:36 AM »
Just recently listened to Lulu again. Been a while.

I love it.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #248 on: August 26, 2013, 10:40:03 AM »
I do too. I occasionally like listening to some weird shit and Lulu just did it for me.

Dragon is by far my favourite song on the album. Then Frustration and The View.

The only one I really have any trouble with is Pumping Blood. Lou's vocals are the worst on that one.

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« Reply #249 on: August 26, 2013, 04:12:45 PM »
I just can't stand Lulu. I think it's boring, the music is shit and Lou's vocals are some of the worst I've ever heard.

Might listen again sometime though, to see if I've changed my mind.

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« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2013, 05:17:01 PM »
I don't hate lulu like most people do, in fact i can totally see what they were going for from a pretentious hipster standpoint, but oh god did they fail so bad it hurts.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #251 on: August 26, 2013, 05:18:50 PM »
You do realize it's not a Metallica album right? Lou Reed just hired them as the backing band, the music is the one solid thing about the album.

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« Reply #252 on: August 26, 2013, 05:19:21 PM »
Indeed. BUT - I admire them for it AND the way some Metallica fans have reacted - it's as if it was the bona fide follow up to Death Magnetic and Lou Reed was the new permanent vocalist for the band.

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« Reply #253 on: August 26, 2013, 05:20:48 PM »
Indeed. BUT - I admire them for it AND the way some Metallica fans have reacted - it's as if it was the bona fide follow up to Death Magnetic and Lou Reed was the new permanent vocalist for the band.
Yeah, my post was more so aimed towards BanksD, but I agree with you whole heartedly.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #254 on: August 27, 2013, 06:58:11 AM »
News Update !

Apparently Lars did a recent interview with a German magazine and few juicy titbits came from it :

1. " We already have songs finished . . "

2. " Once we finish this current leg of the tour - we're in album mode throughout all of 2014 . "

3. " New album ? 'probably next year. . "


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« Reply #255 on: August 27, 2013, 07:03:06 AM »
I thought it was already confirmed that they were obligated to do an album in 2014.

I'm just hoping it's not a Death magnetic pt 2. While the album was an improvement (would have been impossible not to have been), it was very forced to me, and they just can't pull off that kind of music any more (by which I mean Lars and Kirk).

I'd like to hear them just find the sound that fits them best now. Something closer to The Black Album, more concise and melodic songwriting, but still nice and heavy. Mediocre sloppy thrash doesn't excite me.
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« Reply #256 on: August 27, 2013, 09:33:02 AM »
I'd be happy with Load 3.

As long as the songs were good and the production was nice.

The one thing that St Anger has that Death Magnetic does not is energy and enthusiasm in the playing.

Death Magnetic sounds really tired by comparison and has no life to it - all the compression does not help.

St. Anger - even though it sounds weird and raw as fuck - it has ENERGY in the playing. Lars is on fire on that album and his playing on the

Rehearsals DVD is even better.

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« Reply #257 on: August 27, 2013, 02:11:54 PM »
I'd be happy with Load 3.

As long as the songs were good and the production was nice.

The one thing that St Anger has that Death Magnetic does not is energy and enthusiasm in the playing.

Death Magnetic sounds really tired by comparison and has no life to it - all the compression does not help.

St. Anger - even though it sounds weird and raw as fuck - it has ENERGY in the playing. Lars is on fire on that album and his playing on the

Rehearsals DVD is even better.
Pretty much this. I don't really care what kind of music they're gonna make, as long as it's good and sounding energetic.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #258 on: September 04, 2013, 12:58:03 PM »
Stream of Master of Puppets from the soundtrack of that 3D movie: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-unleash-fury-on-master-of-puppets-live-song-premiere-20130904

I quite like it, James sounds great and it's pretty energetic.

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« Reply #259 on: September 04, 2013, 10:02:06 PM »
If the movie turns out to be just corny and shitty, at least we got a live version of MoP where James actually sings more than 30% of it.

EDIT: Yaaaaay! Lars overdubbed the bass drum!!
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« Reply #260 on: September 17, 2013, 08:22:09 PM »
Harvester & Nightmare not on the soundtrack :/
Hetfield stopped singing "How I'm fucking you" at the end of the second verse of MoP, for the same reason they don't play So What anymore heh
It just occurred to me that Dream Theater have released 3 fuckin albums since Death Magnetic, Lazitallica.
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« Reply #261 on: September 17, 2013, 11:01:20 PM »
It just occurred to me that Dream Theater have released 3 fuckin albums since Death Magnetic, Lazitallica.

And all of them (even BC&SL) are far better than DM.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #262 on: September 18, 2013, 09:08:21 AM »
Harvester & Nightmare not on the soundtrack :/
Hetfield stopped singing "How I'm fucking you" at the end of the second verse of MoP, for the same reason they don't play So What anymore heh
It just occurred to me that Dream Theater have released 3 fuckin albums since Death Magnetic, Lazitallica.

And I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes 4 in 2015.

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« Reply #263 on: September 21, 2013, 03:08:02 PM »
It just occurred to me that Dream Theater have released 3 fuckin albums since Death Magnetic, Lazitallica.

And all of them (even BC&SL) are far better than DM.

I'm not totally with you on that, firstly cause I cannot compare between the two bands musically but as an impact on me I'd say ADoTE is the only one that had a stronger impression than DM.

And I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes 4 in 2015.

Haha very possible.

Just watched the live bluray that comes with Fan Can 6 and I think it's better than all other recent live releases. They played Last Caress and I don't get how it's more appropriate than So What..
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #264 on: September 21, 2013, 03:10:17 PM »
More DT vs Metallica productivity discussion :

I highly doubt that Metallica will ever reach 12 studio albums.

They'll barely reach 10 at this rate.

The only way they could do it is if they record three albums now and release one a year.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #265 on: September 21, 2013, 03:11:10 PM »
Pretty much, yeah.

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« Reply #266 on: September 21, 2013, 03:15:41 PM »
Logical but on the other hand you gotta think Metallica won't be touring at this rate forever and in a couple of years less touring could mean more studio time.
Trujillo said recently that Lulu and the movie kept them busy since 2011 and that 2014 will be all about recording a new album, which means we could expect it to be out around the next DT album. Maybe I'm dreaming too far ahead but a joint tour would be very cool and I don't think either bands would oppose it.
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« Reply #267 on: September 21, 2013, 03:16:01 PM »
Metallica 10 will be out late 2014 at the earliest.

If it takes them another 14 years to do 2 more albums - they'll all be in their mid 60's.

Dream Theater are on album 12 and Myung & Petrucci are still only 46.

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« Reply #268 on: September 21, 2013, 03:18:25 PM »
Does it really matter who releases more albums??
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #269 on: September 21, 2013, 03:21:22 PM »
No, but it's just kind of ridiculous how little some of the most successful bands have actually released when you think about it, at least in my opinion.

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« Reply #270 on: September 21, 2013, 03:21:37 PM »
Difference is that a break would be good for DT... For Metallica, whatever, they turned into a joke anyway  :facepalm:
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #271 on: September 21, 2013, 03:22:17 PM »
Does it really matter who releases more albums??

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #272 on: September 21, 2013, 03:34:44 PM »
More DT vs Metallica productivity discussion :

I highly doubt that Metallica will ever reach 12 studio albums.

They'll barely reach 10 at this rate.

The only way they could do it is if they record three albums now and release one a year.

Let's look at it from this perspective: after Lulu, do you even want them to reach 12 albums? Maybe it's better for humanity of they just continue touring with songs from KEA, RTL, MOP and AJFA.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #273 on: September 21, 2013, 03:35:27 PM »
LULU IS NOT A METALLICA ALBUM, JEEZUS.

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« Reply #274 on: September 21, 2013, 03:38:55 PM »
LULU IS NOT A METALLICA ALBUM, JEEZUS.

JOKES ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE LIBERTIES WITH REALITY, MERY AND JOZEPH.

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« Reply #275 on: September 21, 2013, 03:40:09 PM »
LULU IS NOT A METALLICA ALBUM, JEEZUS.

JOKES ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE LIBERTIES WITH REALITY, MERY AND JOZEPH.
I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING SUBTLE JOKES, ABRAHAM AND ISSAC

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« Reply #276 on: September 21, 2013, 03:49:03 PM »
LULU IS NOT A METALLICA ALBUM, JEEZUS.

JOKES ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE LIBERTIES WITH REALITY, MERY AND JOZEPH.
I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING SUBTLE JOKES, ABRAHAM AND ISSAC
I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS PROBABLY WHY YOU DIDN'T THINK TO MISSPELL THE BIBLICAL NAME ABRAHAM, JAKOB AND MOZES.

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« Reply #277 on: September 21, 2013, 03:55:43 PM »
I enjoyed this exchange heh
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« Reply #278 on: September 21, 2013, 03:57:15 PM »
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« Reply #279 on: September 22, 2013, 04:45:17 AM »
Difference is that a break would be good for DT...

Not really. ADTOE was great, and DT12 is fantastic. In my opinion.