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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 08:02:09 AM »
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 08:41:51 AM »
One thing I always wanted to ask: why do some forums start new threads after a while, like this?

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 09:09:28 AM »
One thing I always wanted to ask: why do some forums start new threads after a while, like this?

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2013, 10:15:54 AM »
Alright, Metallica. AJFA is their best effort. No doubt.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2013, 01:48:17 PM »
Agreed. Justice may be the best thrash album ever.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 02:35:29 PM »
Na, Rust In Peace beats the shit out of Metallica's entire catalogue. That's just the truth.





Okay maybe not really. But RIP is the best thrash album ever.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 03:03:05 PM »
Master Of Puppets > > > > And Justice For All.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 03:52:36 PM »
Ride The Lightning > other music. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 03:55:59 PM »
Other Music = Available.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2013, 05:59:42 PM »
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Ride ze Lightning is the best of them IMO.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2013, 06:16:28 PM »
Master beats Ride just by not having Escape on it.

Track by Track :

1. Fight VS Battery ? Even

2. Ride The Lightning VS Master ? Even - Master possibly edges it.

3. Thingy VS Bells. - Thingy wins this one for me

4. Fade VS Sanitarium. Even.

5. Trapped VS Disposable . Disposable easily

6. Escape Vs Leper. Leper easily.

7.Creep VS Orion. Orion wins this for me. Orion beats Ktulu in my book too.

8.Ktulu Vs Damage?  Ktulu possibly.


Additional : Damage VS Creep ? Even.

Ktulu Vs Orion ? Orion for me.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2013, 06:34:34 PM »
(Ride = AJFA) > Master

Although I do like getting the bass out and jamming to KEA on occasion  :biggrin:
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 06:36:49 PM »
I just can't understand how anyone could prefer And Justice For all to Master Of Puppets.

That's just me though  :-\
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 06:37:16 PM »
Metallica was my favorite band until I heard Images & Words. Still love the metal masters though.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2013, 08:05:26 PM »
I just can't understand how anyone could prefer And Justice For all to Master Of Puppets.

That's just me though  :-\

Easy. More intricate writing and the darker vibe really appeals to some of us. Also, One is an epic for any occasion.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2013, 08:23:20 PM »
Intricate writing = songs that outstay their welcome by a considerable margin.

Darker vibe = shit production with horrible sounding guitars.

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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2013, 08:26:32 PM »
I remember one time when my mom came into my room when I was like 9 and looked at my copy of Load and said something like "oh neat, its a lava lamp" referring to the cover.

I looked her dead in the eye and said "yeah, definitely..."
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »
Because you knew what it was at 9 years old.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2013, 10:37:51 PM »
Agreed. Justice may be the best thrash album ever.
Uh yeah, Justice is barely even thrash. And even if it was, there are about 100 thrash albums that I would probably prefer. The mix is hollow and there's like no energy in any of the songs other than Blackened, the second half of One, and Dyer's Eve.

Should we do the whole AJFA prog metal discussion as well while we're all here?
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2013, 11:04:58 PM »
Na, Rust In Peace beats the shit out of Metallica's entire catalogue. That's just the truth.





Okay maybe not really. But RIP is the best thrash album ever.

 ???

RIP is not even Megadeth's best album...much less best thrash album.     However...Holy Wars is possibly the best thrash *song* ever written.    But as an album, RIP is pretty spotty.   I personally prefer SFSGSW.   Much more solid album.   Not a weak song in the bunch.

As far as Metallica goes.   

Master = Ride >>> AJFA.

Even the day Justice came out...we (that is, the crowd I hung with) felt that the songwriting had improved...but the production sounded way too polished (seriously lacked the raw energy of the previous two albums) and at the same time, managed to sound way too thin and weak.    There are some amazing tracks...and not every album could be Puppets...but it was a step down.

Of course...thing took SEVERAL more steps back with the next effort.    A Metallica album you could DANCE to?   You have *got* to be kidding me.  :mehlin
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2013, 11:34:32 PM »
Intricate writing = songs that outstay their welcome by a considerable margin.

Darker vibe = shit production with horrible sounding guitars.
Have to agree here. AJFA is good but has a ton of flaws. One was never my favorite Metallica song, probably wouldn't even make my top ten.

Ride The Lightning is my favorite Metallica album, I really think that was their peak.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2013, 11:39:37 PM »
1. Master of Puppets: Track title and Thing That Should Not Be are legendary and superb and are cute.
2. Ride The Lightning==And Justice For All: Extremely good albums that are also cute.
3. Kill Em All: Damned great album
4. Death Magnetic: So good, seriously.
5. Black Album: Pretty good.
6. Load/Reload: Good stuff in there, ranges from mediocre to a few fantastic tracks
7. St. Anger: Sweet Amber is on par for one of the best Metallica songs, the rest is great ideas that go on for too long.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2013, 01:01:17 AM »
RIP is not even Megadeth's best album

It is. Easily. I really love most of their albums, but none of the others come close to RIP. It's just a perfect 10/10 album in my opinion.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2013, 02:16:24 AM »
I dunno, Countdown To Extinction comes pretty close. However, RIP has 3 songs that are better than anything on CTE.


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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2013, 02:31:06 AM »
...And Justice For All just may be my favourite album of all-time. Come on, that album never lets up. And "To Live is to Die" is just plain fucking beautiful.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2013, 02:38:02 AM »
(really good)

1. Master of Puppets
2. And Justice For All
3. Ride the Lightning

(good)

4. Load
5. Kill 'Em All

(meh/ok)

6. The Black Album

(awful/horrible)

7. ReLoad
8. St. Anger
9. Death Magnetic

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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2013, 02:53:22 AM »
I actually think Load is better than the Blck aLbum. But, that's just me .
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2013, 03:08:46 AM »
IMO there's no way is Load better than The Black Album, although I'll certainly defend Load as not deserving as much hate as it gets.

I consider TBA their best album (for reals). I also think that many of the individual songs on Load are just as good, and as good as anything they've done from any era (Until It Sleeps and Hero of the Day are two of my favourite songs of all time. OF ALL TIME), but as whole albums, Load and Reload both seriously suffer from lack of culling.
As one album, I think Load/Reload could have been excellent (pending tracklist, of course). As two albums, I think it's a collection of some excellent songs padded out with a lot of filler. Load is better than Reload though.

I have started to appreciate Load (and to a lesser extent Reload) a lot more recently, and I do think it gets more hate than it deserves, but it just isn't consistent enough to compare to TBA to me.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2013, 03:24:18 AM »
So yeah okay

1. Ride the Lightning
2. Master of Puppets
3. Kill 'Em All
4. Death Magnetic
5. ...And Justice For All
6. Reload
7. Metallica
8. Load
9. St. Anger
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2013, 04:29:03 AM »
Load could be really good if about five of the filler songs were left off.

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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2013, 04:35:05 AM »
1. Ride The Lightning
2. Master Of Puppets
3. Metallica
4. And Justice For All
5. Load
6. Kill 'Em All
7. Death Magnetic
8. Reload
9. St Anger
10. Lulu

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2013, 04:43:05 AM »
If all the cool kids are doing it (and Zydar)..........

1. The Black Album
2. And Justice For All (if it didn't have unlistenable balls production)
3. Kill 'Em All
4. Master Of Puppets
5. Load
6. Ride The Lightning
7. Reload
8. Death Magnetic
9. St Anger


More controversially, the only Metallica albums I listen to regularly are Black Album and Load/Reload. I'm not as much into the thrash side any more.
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2013, 04:46:28 AM »
I don't listen to any of them regularly anymore, but okay:

1. And Justice For All
2. Master Of Puppets
3. Ride The Lightning
4. Black Album
5. Death Magnetic
6. Load
7. Kill Em All
8. Reload
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2013, 06:13:35 AM »
I remember I recently listened to AJFA in it's entirety in one go.

Then I stuck on Sad But True from Metallica immediately afterwards.

:lol After listening to AJFA for an hour or so - the difference was just colossal.



( production wise only I mean - Metallica has infinitely superior production values )


My ranking :

1.Master Of Puppets. Best Metallica album and my favourite metal album ever.
2.Metallica. Awesome production and great songs
3.Ride. Would be as good as Master if not for Escape.
4.Load. Hugely under rated.
5.And Justice For All. Long winded and stale but decent songs.
6.Kill Em All. Full of classics. Shame about the recording.
7.Reload. Has some filler but I love it. Has Carpe DIem, Fixxxer and Where The Wild Things Are.
8.Death Magnetic. Again - shame about the recording but has decent songs.
9.St Anger. This is becoming a trend these days with Metallica. Decent songs let down by the recording.

10.Lulu. I don't consider this a Metallica album because it's a collab with Lou Reed. Has some genuinely good moments and nowhere near as awful as people make it out to be. Complaining about the vocals on a Lou Reed album is like complaining about the drumming on a White Stripes record.
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