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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #350 on: November 19, 2015, 06:05:50 AM »
I didn't see a show on this tour, but I followed it closely watching tons of videos and downloading a few boots. The band really seemed possessed on this tour especially Neil. He played and sounded spectacularly.

And Scott, I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.
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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #351 on: November 19, 2015, 06:19:25 AM »
They will never satisfy us fans. 

I was to tired of seeing Far Cry on tour.
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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #352 on: November 19, 2015, 06:25:03 AM »
I didn't see a show on this tour, but I followed it closely watching tons of videos and downloading a few boots. The band really seemed possessed on this tour especially Neil. He played and sounded spectacularly.

And Scott, I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.

I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.
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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #353 on: November 19, 2015, 06:28:32 AM »
I didn't see a show on this tour, but I followed it closely watching tons of videos and downloading a few boots. The band really seemed possessed on this tour especially Neil. He played and sounded spectacularly.

And Scott, I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.

I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.

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« Reply #354 on: November 19, 2015, 07:10:27 AM »
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs.
Far Cry - drop and switch between HYF and T4E songs (in the appropriate places in the setlist), perhaps Open Secrets or Lock and Key, and T4E or Time and Motion
One Little Victory - either Vapor Trail or Nocturne
Animate - Cut to the Chase or Alien Shore
Roll The Bones - Red Tide or Available Light (if Geddy could manage)
Distant Early Warning - Enemy Within
Subdivisions - The Weapon
Red Barchetta - Witch Hunt (they missed the perfect opportunity to do at least the first 3 parts of Fear)
 
 
I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.
Agreed, along with about half of both RtB and T4E.
 
 
I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.
Yeah, but you think T4E is awesome and CP is meh, so your opinion is null and void!   :biggrin:
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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #355 on: November 19, 2015, 07:19:21 AM »
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs.
Far Cry - drop and switch between HYF and T4E songs (in the appropriate places in the setlist), perhaps Open Secrets or Lock and Key, and T4E or Time and Motion
One Little Victory - either Vapor Trail or Nocturne
Animate - Cut to the Chase or Alien Shore
Roll The Bones - Red Tide or Available Light (if Geddy could manage)
Distant Early Warning - Enemy Within
Subdivisions - The Weapon
Red Barchetta - Witch Hunt (they missed the perfect opportunity to do at least the first 3 parts of Fear)
 
 
I only said wishing War Paint was silly because I think it's literally one of their worst songs. And I love Presto.
Agreed, along with about half of both RtB and T4E.
 
 
I don't think Presto is all that fantastic, and I think War Paint is easily in the top 10 of the entire Signals-TFE era.   Fantastic song.
Yeah, but you think T4E is awesome and CP is meh, so your opinion is null and void!   :biggrin:

Scotty, not arguing with you at all, but asking a question of someone who is closer to the song choices than I am.

Is there any credence to the idea that some songs were included only because they didn't have the learning curve of others?  Meaning, "Hey, let's play something from Counterparts; how about, since we're already learning Losing It and relearning x, Y, Z, let's just do Animate because it's closer to 'ready to go'"?   I don't necessarily mean "taking the easy way out", but a setlist is like a path through the woods or a video game; in some spots there is danger and hard, and in others, there is a spot to breath.

I'm just thinking out loud here.  I don't disagree with the suggestions (though I don't back off from what I said earlier, either). 

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« Reply #356 on: November 19, 2015, 07:36:46 AM »
That's certainly plausible Stadler. It's either that or they feel strongly about that song, both singularly and as representative of that particular era.
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« Reply #357 on: November 19, 2015, 11:08:34 AM »
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« Reply #358 on: November 19, 2015, 11:18:01 AM »
That's certainly plausible Stadler. It's either that or they feel strongly about that song, both singularly and as representative of that particular era.
I agree with TAC that it's possible, altho I'd wager it's probably more likely to be a particular favorite of their's to perform, as I believe is also the case with RtB. Still wish they would've at least swapped those two out with other songs so at least some of the setlists didn't have them, but nothing can be done about that - their show, so they call the shots.
 
 
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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #359 on: November 19, 2015, 06:00:06 PM »
Given what they gave us on the tour, I think just about any criticism of the set list is picking serious nits. 

Animate was a great choice.  It hadn't been played in over 10 years, it is one of their best songs from the 90s, and was a great song to represent that era of them returning to hard rock (1993-1996) before their four years off.

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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #360 on: December 06, 2015, 12:04:30 PM »
I'm OK with it.

I still think I like the Clockwork Angels DVD better mostly.

But I love the first set, the light show, the fun they're having and Geddy's bass collection.

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Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
« Reply #361 on: November 12, 2017, 07:55:32 PM »
Nearly two years after this thread had moved on, I've decided to resurrect it given the not-so-recent news that the upcoming 40th Anniversary edition of A Farewell To Kings will feature the ENTIRE Hammersmith Odeon show from 1978. The show, originally released as a single-disc bonus on the band's fourth live album Different Stages, it omitted four tracks - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112" and Neil's drum solo. The biggest of these, of course, is the inclusion of "2112", which features "III. Discovery" in its entirety, which was not played in full on the version found on All The World's A Stage. This was the longest version of the song the band had played from the 2112 tour all the way til the Test For Echo Tour in 1996, so having a soundboard recording, officially released mind you, of this version of "2112" is surely a gem to my ears and eyes.

Below is my original post, documenting the Drive 'Til You Die tour, including my original cut of my Rush Live Tours compilation, which will soon be rendered obsolete now that the whole Hammersmith Odeon show will come out. I am super excited to have the WHOLE show, FINALLY, and it makes me wonder if the band have had access to more full soundboards.

The Hemispheres Tour has a couple of great complete soundboards, but from there on, there are some gaps here and there...
-Permanent Waves (though there are many great partials)
-Moving Pictures (the band SURELY have a complete show of this tour somewhere)
-Signals (as far as I know, there are no great soundboards, if any)
-Grace Under Pressure (several soundboards, and one official but partial show, but nothing complete)
-Power Windows (the Philly show is great, but is missing the last 24 minutes of the show, and a cut in "Red Sector A")
-Hold Your Fire (a near complete Birmingham show is the best we've got, missing "Limelight", and a few bits at the end of the show)

After the HYF tour, there have been pretty complete soundboards of great quality, and after TFE, full complete shows (with a few exceptions of some songs, like no soundboard release of "Time And Motion" from the TFE Tour, or "Ceiling Unlimited" from the VT Tour.

I wonder if, in the coming years, we will get 40th Anniversary editions of the 1980's albums and if so, we will be treated to complete shows from those tours?! The PEW and SIG tours are probably ones I'd want the most, as they're probably the most incomplete when it comes to having good boots of them, despite how great the St. Louis 80 show is, it's still incomplete (even with the inclusion of ESL tracks from that tour).


Touring on their first studio album in what would retroactively be named their 2nd Phase, Rush embarked on (what I'm pretty sure was) their longest tour yet, or at least, the one with the most dates, covering North America from August 17, 1977 to May 28, 1978

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Opened For: Blue Oyster Cult
Opening Bands: UFO, Max Webster, AC/DC, Cheap Trick, Pat Travers, The Babys, Hush, Grinderswitch, Crawler, Uriah Heep

According to the Power Windows website, they still did opening sets, but only for Blue Oyster Cult. Otherwise, they were headlining, and with 5 albums worth of material, they had a LOT of music to choose from to cover.

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This is the last tour Rush performed any shows as a supporting band. Although shows early in the tour featured a setlist with "Cygnus X-1" preceding "Something For Nothing", eventually those songs traded places and the setlist was standardized for the rest of the tour with the exception being that "Anthem" was dropped occasionally for unknown reasons. This is the last tour to include the song "Fly By Night".

Bastille Day
Lakeside Park
By-Tor and the Snow Dog (abbreviated)->
Xanadu
A Farewell to Kings
Something For Nothing
Cygnus X-1
Anthem (dropped from 12/10/77, 2/17 & 2/23/78 shows)
Closer To The Heart
2112 (minus Oracle)
Working Man
Fly by Night
In The Mood
Drum Solo
Encore: Cinderella Man

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

This tour's compilation mostly comes from the official live release of a AFTK show in the Different Stages live set. However, three songs (and Neil's solo) were missing/taken out of the Hammersmith Odeon show - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112", the last two likely due to their inclusion in the first disc of Different Stages from the Test For Echo Tour.
With that in mind, I chose one of the better sounding Audience recordings of that tour to fill in the gaps.

Rush - A Farewell To Kings Tour - 94:50
(Live In London, UK on 2/19/78)
(Different Stages - Official Release)

Disc 1 - 47:22
 1. Bastille Day       5:05
 2. Lakeside Park*       4:26
 3. By-Tor & The Snow Dog    5:11
 4. Xanadu         12:21
 5. A Farewell To Kings       5:54
 6. Something For Nothing    4:00
 7. Cygnus X-1         10:25

Disc 2 - 47:28
 1. Anthem          4:54
 2. Closer To The Heart*    3:10
 3. 2112*         19:08
 4. Working Man          4:00
 5. Fly By Night       2:04
 6. In The Mood          2:36
 7. Drum Solo*          5:25
 8. Cinderella Man       5:09

*Missing songs fillled in by:
(Ron's Vault Release #5 - AUD)
(Live In Fresno, CA on 9/28/77)

32:09 - Non-SB Sourced
   
The Hammersmith show is pretty good, and being an official release, it's not hard to have any better, despite the 3 missing pieces, although any die-hard Rush fan wouldn't mind not having CTTH on a release (though this would be the first tour with it), or "Lakeside Park" (with the ATWAS version sufficing). The true missing gem would be a slightly longer version of "2112" than presented on ATWAS, but that's not a BIG loss.

As for the rest of the show itself, it's pretty amazing! You get FOUR new songs from the then-new album, as well as the awe-inspiring medley of "By-Tor & The Snow Dog"/"Xanadu".

To end the show, we get yet another "Working Man" Medley, and the unusual decision to put a NEW song in the encore (something the band has rarely done, but would later do on tours in the 80's). Over-all, this set list is as expected for this tour, although one might miss complete versions of songs from their first two albums, they now had 3 songs over 10-minutes long being played, and with that number of epics, they had to shortened songs. Which I am perfectly okay with considering how great "Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage" is.


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Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
« Reply #362 on: November 15, 2017, 09:38:36 PM »
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Re: Rush Live - The R40 Tour (and possibly their last major tour...)
« Reply #363 on: November 16, 2017, 12:04:33 AM »
@ Scotty... what would you have had them drop to make those inclusions?  I agree 100% on Animate... it's been done enough - give us something... ANYTHING else from Counterparts, ffs.
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Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
« Reply #364 on: November 16, 2017, 05:31:04 PM »
Nearly two years after this thread had moved on, I've decided to resurrect it given the not-so-recent news that the upcoming 40th Anniversary edition of A Farewell To Kings will feature the ENTIRE Hammersmith Odeon show from 1978. The show, originally released as a single-disc bonus on the band's fourth live album Different Stages, it omitted four tracks - "Lakeside Park", "Closer To The Heart", "2112" and Neil's drum solo. The biggest of these, of course, is the inclusion of "2112", which features "III. Discovery" in its entirety, which was not played in full on the version found on All The World's A Stage. This was the longest version of the song the band had played from the 2112 tour all the way til the Test For Echo Tour in 1996, so having a soundboard recording, officially released mind you, of this version of "2112" is surely a gem to my ears and eyes.

Below is my original post, documenting the Drive 'Til You Die tour, including my original cut of my Rush Live Tours compilation, which will soon be rendered obsolete now that the whole Hammersmith Odeon show will come out. I am super excited to have the WHOLE show, FINALLY, and it makes me wonder if the band have had access to more full soundboards.

The Hemispheres Tour has a couple of great complete soundboards, but from there on, there are some gaps here and there...
-Permanent Waves (though there are many great partials)
-Moving Pictures (the band SURELY have a complete show of this tour somewhere)
-Signals (as far as I know, there are no great soundboards, if any)
-Grace Under Pressure (several soundboards, and one official but partial show, but nothing complete)
-Power Windows (the Philly show is great, but is missing the last 24 minutes of the show, and a cut in "Red Sector A")
-Hold Your Fire (a near complete Birmingham show is the best we've got, missing "Limelight", and a few bits at the end of the show)

After the HYF tour, there have been pretty complete soundboards of great quality, and after TFE, full complete shows (with a few exceptions of some songs, like no soundboard release of "Time And Motion" from the TFE Tour, or "Ceiling Unlimited" from the VT Tour.

I wonder if, in the coming years, we will get 40th Anniversary editions of the 1980's albums and if so, we will be treated to complete shows from those tours?! The PEW and SIG tours are probably ones I'd want the most, as they're probably the most incomplete when it comes to having good boots of them, despite how great the St. Louis 80 show is, it's still incomplete (even with the inclusion of ESL tracks from that tour).



Soundboards are nice and all but there a bunch of really great performances on audience recordings that I think that are just as good if not better.   Many of them can likely be found earlier in this thread.

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Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings)
« Reply #365 on: November 21, 2017, 11:38:16 AM »
Soundboards are nice and all but there a bunch of really great performances on audience recordings that I think that are just as good if not better.   Many of them can likely be found earlier in this thread.

Oh I am sure there are plenty of great A-level audience recordings out there, especially based on performance alone, but the kind of polish that some soundboards have just elevate the recordings for me to my ears. Mostly, though, I just look for COMPLETE shows, soundboard or not, and some of my personal tour shows I keep in a CD-r Wallet as my Complete Tours Set are full audience shows (like the ATWAS and Signals tours).

I'm just saying, if there's a chance that Rush themselves have at LEAST one decent, complete soundboard from each tour, it would be a treat for us fans if they released them with whatever upcoming anniversary sets they may do. I know we already have a few complete soundboards from the Hemispheres tour, but I'd be excited if they released a whole show with proper mixing and mastering. And of course, the complete St. Louis 80 would be a treat as that show sounds so crisp already, having the whole thing would be amazing.

I guess, until then, we do have amazing soundboards AND audience shows that circulate (though it seems in the last decade or so, discoveries of un-released ROIO's have slimmed down).

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Re: Rush Live - The Drive 'Til You Die Tour (A Farewell To Kings) REVISITED!!!
« Reply #366 on: November 22, 2017, 08:17:42 PM »
It would be great if that St. Louis 1980 show were complete, but it was originally released as a radio broadcast (2 LPs 90 minutes) so I think that even if those tapes survived, they aren't in releasable shape.