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Episode 37: Barto hasn't destroyed his kidney yet
« on: July 02, 2013, 07:23:11 PM »
I never understood why people put the TLDR at the end of a post. It should go at the beginning so readers can make an informed decision on whether or not to read the whole thing. In this case, the TLDR is that my kidneys have failed and I need a new one, which I will now be getting in a couple of weeks. Now you can skip the long part and consider yourself reasonably up to speed, or continue reading for insight and color into the whole affair. I'll try to make it an interesting read.

Some people here already know bits of the story, but here goes for everybody else who might be interested.

The longer version of events is that my kidneys started to crap out on me about 5 years ago. Coincidentally, right before I started posting regularly on this forum. This came to my attention when I woke up and could see nothing but green in my right eye. This happened on a Saturday, so it was a fairly stressful weekend before I could get to see my eye doctor, who's a real dick. He spent about 2 minutes in the room, said it's an aneurism behind your retina, and you need to go to a specialist. The retina specialist was not a dick, but was a cranky old bastard. It was 1700 when he got to me, said it looks like hypertension to me, what's your blood pressure. His nurse came in, took my blood pressure, said wooowww!, took it again, and reported 270/165. The cranky old bastard said that his medical recommendation was to drive to the nearest emergency room (right across the street), tell them I'm very sick and ask them nicely to save me. I followed his advice. Interestingly, as I was leaving I asked if my eyesight would return, and the old bastard says: "eyesight! Look, my wife has dinner waiting at home for me and you're fixing to die. I honestly don't care about your eyesight. I'll tell you what, if you're still alive next month, come see me and we'll work on your eyesight then."

Emergency rooms are nifty places. In the lobby they took my BP (took several tries; the new automated ones don't expect people that far out of range), and about 6 tubes of blood. When they got me into a room about 45 minutes later, they'd already done complete workups. The ER doc whips out his tricorder, says "check, check, check, bingo. Your kidneys suck." The medical side of this is that the kidneys have a good deal of control over BP, and high BP damages kidneys. Once one starts the other, you get a chain reaction and things go to shit really quickly.

After five days in the hospital getting my BP under control I learned a few things. According to Dr. Kidney, my kidneys were "hobbled" now, and would likely not last as long as the rest of me. Dr. Heart said my enzyme levels suggest several small heart attacks, but other than being remarkably strong because of all the work it had been doing maintaining that BP, it was fine. When I asked for a time frame, my hospitalist (a real cunt, frankly) said she didn't think I had five years. Cunt though she may be, she pretty much hit that one out of the park. The transplant could actually be five years to the day.

Interestingly, I can tell you exactly when I had two minor heart attacks, although I certainly didn't realize what they were at the time. One was waiting in cranky old bastard's waiting room (4 fucking hours is too long in a waiting room). The other was during Acid Rain at the Downey show. Never mentioned it here before, but frankly 800 attendees and a helluva lot of DVD owners owe me a good deal of thanks for not kipping over dead and disrupting that wonderful fucking show. At the time I assumed I was just being knocked on my ass by Senior Petrucci, Rush had done that to me once, but now I know differently.

Interestingly, the next day I road every single coaster at Magic Mountain. In retrospect that was probably a stunningly dangerous thing to do, but who knew.

Anyhoo, shortly after my release from the hospital I started posting here and working on keeping my kidneys in check. Thankfully (or perhaps not), the only thing that I could do was keep my BP under control. Dr. Innards set me on a good course of meds which did just that with a minimal amount of side effects. For the last five years I've generally felt just dandy, and my BP is on the border of hypertensive, but compared to most kidney patients excellent. This went on for four years, with very little decrease in my kidney function. For those four years, I was really close to the clearance level that would get me on a transplant list, but not quite. An interesting irony at this point is that my mom would have been a fine candidate 5 years ago, but now she's probably considered too old. Anyhoo, around October of last year my clearance level tanked and I moved right on into end stage.

As an aside, a couple of members here (and one or two at MP's), have gotten stern lectures from me about blood pressure. This is why. Most kidney disease is caused by hypertension. In my case, the CKD came first, which really makes me feel better about the whole thing, honestly. I'd feel like a real asshole if this were all because I ignored my BP; which many people tend to do.  Just because you get it under control doesn't mean that you can start ignoring it.

I'll now point out that the golden ticket for kidney patients is to get a transplant before the need for dialysis arises. Dialysis fucking sucks. That was always a hope, but to be honest, I didn't have very good expectations. However, my stepsister up in Phili had offered a while back, and while plenty of other friends and relations had offered as well, she actually moved forward with it.  :) She's done all of the testing, had her application submitted before the board, and got the call this morning that they'll take one of her kidneys for me. As I told her on the phone, shit just got real.

This creates an interesting psychological issue. While nowhere near as bad as they used to be, kidney transplants are still a bid deal. To quote Moe Syzlac, "making polenta is a procedure, this is major, deadly, life threatening surgery!" Moe was exaggerating a little bit, but it's still a life-altering thing, not the least of which is losing your immune system for the rest of your life. Most people who do this have been on dialysis for a year or two, and are absolutely fucking fearless. They're anxious to get it done because whether they live or die it'll still be an improvement over more dialysis. I have no such frame of reference. Even now with minimal kidney function I still feel pretty damn good. Now, I'm a pragmatist and I understand well the logic of the situation, but it's still a bit disconcerting to know that I'm fixing to have my life altered significantly to treat a problem that from my perspective only exists in a test tube somewhere.

Now that the heavy stuff is covered, here's some fascinating and occasionally hysterical stuff about live organ donations. Insofar as the generally nice folk at the Dallas Transplant Institute are concerned, my sister is a hero and I'm a fucking parasite. They treat us both accordingly. When she was in town for her workup, every person she saw made it a point to tell her that she's a wonderful person and much more important than I am. In fact, she gets a state appointed advocate who's never allowed to meet or even speak to me.

When the procedure happens, we'll each get two surgeons, but the teams won't be allowed to communicate during the respective operations. Her team either moves forward or doesn't, and fuck me and my doctors and our wishes.

This one really cracked me up. The transplant board had to approve her application, and nobody with the institute is allowed to tell me their decision until they tell her. The reason being that they give her yet another opportunity to back out, and should she choose to do so, they'll lie to me and say she was denied for medical reasons.

Once they remover her kidney, she can't have it back. If I die on the operating table (her hypothetical scenario was a DART bus crashes through the wall and crushes me during the surgery), they'll wake her up to ask her what she wants done with the kidney, but putting it back into her will not be an option.

An interesting perk to kidney donation: if she gets into an accident, or is shot in the gut, or develops CKD herself, she automatically moves to the top of the waiting list. She also got a prepaid Amex card from Uncle Sammy with her name and "LIVING ORGAN DONOR" emblazoned across it. Pretty nifty, and seriously kicks the shit out of my "member since 91" crap.

So that's the story. For obvious reasons I'll probably be curtailing my DTF activity a bit. I'm going to try and go somewhere between now and the surgery, perhaps back out to Cali.; there's a roller coaster I really want to ride out there. For the people in my fantasy league, I'm not sure what the deal with that is yet. I'd really like to play, and I think I'm going to have a shit-ton of free time to manage it, but I seriously doubt I could take on all of the commissioner work. If there are any must see shows on the West Coast this month, somebody let me know. I always try to hit a show when I travel. And if anybody has any questions, fire away. The whole thing is really quite fascinating. And congratulations if you read the whole thing.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 07:27:26 PM by El Barto »
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 07:28:42 PM »
Cool story, bro.

Seriously though, you don't seem scared, so my "are you scared ?" question would just seem silly. I wish you the best of luck and I'm sure you'll be fine  :metal

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 07:48:47 PM »
Wow....that is some story EB!!! I really think that your attitude during this whole process has been the key and will continue to be. Like you said, even though this is a fairly common procedure it's still an operation, so keeping that 'positive', 'let's do this' attitude will help out during the remainder of your journey.
  I'm sure you know by now I'm a praying guy so I will definitely be including you in them. That your surgeons hands are guided to make all the right moves, his/her mind is crystal clear to make all the right choices and that your body is fully refreshed and recharged and accepts the new part with open arms.....and that you're strengthened for the recovery. Best of Luck!!
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 08:07:22 PM »
Great story,  read it all.  You are most fortunate to have found a good match, I'm so glad for you!   I haven't been here long but I enjoy your writings.  You will be missed.

Wishing you the very best of health and recovery!    :smiley:
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 08:16:51 PM »
Take care of yourself good sir and we await your return because we think positive here.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 08:21:09 PM »
Great story,  read it all.  You are most fortunate to have found a good match, I'm so glad for you!   I haven't been here long but I enjoy your writings. You will be missed.

Wishing you the very best of health and recovery!    :smiley:
Hey now, lets not go crazy here. I plan on being around.  :lol

Interesting thing: matches don't seem to matter much anymore. My stepsister is a 0/6 HLA match. I'm not even sure if she's the same blood type. She's definitely the same blood group, and that seems to be the main factor.

As for my attitude/fear, the biggest thing I got from my old man was my sense of pragmatism, and that rules the day. This is what it is. I don't fret over things I can't control. If I had to perform the surgery myself, I'd be scared shitless. In this case, I just show up when they tell me and it's out of my hands. That's not to say that I'm perfectly cool with it. I'd rather have healthy kidneys. I just understand the logic of my situation and deal with it.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 08:21:28 PM »
Sorry to hear about the kidney problem. That sucks. On the bright side, it sounds like you're in the better case scenario for the transplant though (edit: actually didn't realize it was a step sister), and you're a tough dude. I hope it all goes well.

And I never realized the link between BP and kidneys. My BP really sucks, so that's a worry.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 08:23:49 PM »
I feel the same way El Barto.  I had Lymphoma when I was 31 and it was a 2 year battle but I never looked at the dark side.  I just dug in and told everybody, I'd beat it.  How else do can you cope with it? 


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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 08:40:54 PM »
Godspeed and good luck come surgery time Barto.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 09:01:37 PM »
Best of luck to you and your sister, Barto. Hilarious stuff about the disparate treatment you both :lol

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 09:43:31 PM »
Interesting thing: matches don't seem to matter much anymore. My stepsister is a 0/6 HLA match. I'm not even sure if she's the same blood type. She's definitely the same blood group, and that seems to be the main factor.

Blood group compatibility is the primary criteria as far as I know.  They may have done some kind of antibody test on you that indicated the likelihood of your immune system reacting to her HLA antigens was minimal, I'm not sure.  Also you'll probably be put on immunosuppressants after the procedure is done.

Good luck to you Barto, being hit by a DART bus on the operating table isn't such a bad way to go!

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 09:52:49 PM »
Keep on keeping the faith. You are probably my favorite read here, which oddly counts pretty high in my book.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 10:22:04 PM »
Blood group compatibility is the primary criteria as far as I know.  They may have done some kind of antibody test on you that indicated the likelihood of your immune system reacting to her HLA antigens was minimal, I'm not sure.  Also you'll probably be put on immunosuppressants after the procedure is done.
As far as I know, it was strictly blood grouping and crossmatch, which was of course negative. The crossmatch was the big one as that's an outright dealbreaker. According to what they told her, Baylor's success rate with 0 HLA matches is about 95%/1st month. If I'd gotten a kidney from my mom, which would have most likely been 3/6 match, those odds would have increased all the way up to 97%.  :lol  From what I can tell, it really seems to be all about the bloods. Are they compatible and will they fight each other.

As for immunosuppressants, that's all but guaranteed. The good news on that front is that two major hospitals are kicking serious ass with regards to induced immunity tolerance. The folks out at Stanford are batting nearly 1000 with live test subjects. I haven't been able to verify it yet, but based on what it is that they're up to, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to do that after the procedure (as long as my step sister remains alive to cough up some stem cells). All of their subjects seem to be doing just fine with no immunosuppression whatsoever. That's really what I'm hoping for the most. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 10:26:18 PM »
Like I told ya last week in our PM convo, your positive attitude, all things considered, is good to see.  Good luck, man! :)

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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2013, 08:56:01 PM »
As for immunosuppressants, that's all but guaranteed. The good news on that front is that two major hospitals are kicking serious ass with regards to induced immunity tolerance. The folks out at Stanford are batting nearly 1000 with live test subjects. I haven't been able to verify it yet, but based on what it is that they're up to, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to do that after the procedure (as long as my step sister remains alive to cough up some stem cells). All of their subjects seem to be doing just fine with no immunosuppression whatsoever. That's really what I'm hoping for the most.

Not really an area of expertise for me so I'm not that familiar with the literature, but that would be awesome.  The regimens of immunosuppressant drugs following a transplant can really rape you financially.

Report back if you feel up to it when all is said and done; I'd be interested to know how it all went down if you don't mind sharing at some point when it's ancient history (or by PM of course).  :tup

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2013, 05:35:03 AM »
EB, the situation obviously sucks, but it sounds like you are in the best possible situation.  Best of luck to you, buddy.  I know you don't subscribe to my personal beliefs (who does?), but I'll definitely be putting in a good word for you.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2013, 09:55:43 AM »
Not really an area of expertise for me so I'm not that familiar with the literature, but that would be awesome.  The regimens of immunosuppressant drugs following a transplant can really rape you financially.
Man, that ain't no shit. I seem to recall $3500/month being thrown around for just one of the meds I'll have to take (for the rest of my fucking life!). I was planning to write a whole section about how rotten it is to be sick and have been born in America. Decided the post was already long enough. Suffice it to say, that's why health care discussions in P/R tend to be the one area where I'm not cool and level headed, and anytime I hear somebody say "greatest nation on Earth" I want to kick their damn teeth in.

And thanks to everybody for the well wishes. While I'm obviously not a prayer kind of guy myself, that people wish to help in their own way is certainly comforting.  :tup
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2013, 11:07:44 AM »
Bart, read the whole thing. Obviously, my thoughts are with you, brother.

Besides, I don't even know what TLDR means anyway!
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2013, 11:54:08 AM »
Read it all. Best of luck, Barto! Unfortunately I don't have much advice to offer, but I'm sure as can be that everything will work out.

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2013, 12:16:27 PM »
Damn, substitute the word "liver" for "kidney" and "brother" for "sister" and this is really close to my medical story, although I've still got a number of years to go before I need to be talking about any transplants. 


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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2013, 12:26:02 PM »
Nice read. Thanks and I wish you the best of medical practitioners!

Mrs. Podaar has gone through (to a much smaller extent) the feed-back loop you mention of hypertension causing kidney difficulties which increases her blood pressure. Through meds, profession changes (less stress), diet and exercise she is able to keep her BP at normal levels. As El Barto points out, folks, please don't ignore high blood pressure!
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2013, 03:48:18 PM »
Wishing you the best, EB. You have a great attitude. Looking forward to beating you in fantasy football as well.   :)

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2013, 11:58:22 AM »
I'm very happy for you my friend.  From our talks, and your story in this thread, I think things are looking up for you Bro :)

On a side note, Interesting about the legalities of the donor/recipient.  I guess it makes sense, except for the fact that she couldn't get it back if something went wrong.  That's a bit odd to me, but I'm not a Lawyer.

Well wishes are with you of course...and if there's anything I can do, don't hesitate to ask.

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2013, 01:48:07 PM »
On a side note, Interesting about the legalities of the donor/recipient.  I guess it makes sense, except for the fact that she couldn't get it back if something went wrong.  That's a bit odd to me, but I'm not a Lawyer.
The rationale is that it's much easier to take one out than to put one in. If I croak during the procedure, she's still safer living the rest of her life with only one kidney than going through a second immediate surgery to put one back in. Simply put, surgery is more dangerous than losing a kidney.

Another interesting tidbit, one of the first things they did before signing off on her as a donor was to insure that she actually has 2 kidneys to begin with. It seems that plenty of people volunteer to donate to a relative, and then find out rather abruptly that they were only born with one to begin with.  :lol Since kidneys are redundant, nobody would have any way of knowing that they were short one. Hence the above statement about a deficiency being safer than a second surgery.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2013, 02:29:51 PM »
It seems that plenty of people volunteer to donate to a relative, and then find out rather abruptly that they were only born with one to begin with.  :lol Since kidneys are redundant, nobody would have any way of knowing that they were short one.

I always thought this was an interesting (though largely inconsequential) medical anomaly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_kidney

I wonder what the implications are with regard to donating/receiving for these patients? :justjen  I can't think of an obvious reason it shouldn't be possible.

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2013, 02:39:50 PM »
It seems that plenty of people volunteer to donate to a relative, and then find out rather abruptly that they were only born with one to begin with.  :lol Since kidneys are redundant, nobody would have any way of knowing that they were short one.

I always thought this was an interesting (though largely inconsequential) medical anomaly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_kidney

I wonder what the implications are with regard to donating/receiving for these patients? :justjen  I can't think of an obvious reason it shouldn't be possible.

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Well, receiving one wouldn't be an issue since the new one goes outside the abdominal cavity anyway. The recipient's existing kidneys aren't touched at all. As for coughing one up to a relative, they wouldn't touch it. I know that one of the common disqualifying factors is multiple blood vessels going in/out. Most people have one big one going in. A few people have 3 smaller ones. An even smaller set have numerous tiny ones. During the workup they'll do an ultrasound to ascertain what the artery situation is, and if it's multiple in both, then it's a no-go. Occasionally they'll find one kidney that's normal and one with 3 arteries, and they'll take the one that's singular; this is the only time they take the left kidney instead of the right one (which is usually the case for some reason I forget, having to do with the asymmetry of one's innards).

As DTF's resident MD, I am curious about something. Assuming you have a passing familiarity with anesthesiology, would there be any issue with me showing up for my operation twelve kinds of hungover? I'm kind of thinking it might be in my best interest to spend my last couple of days in a Hunter Thompson level of fuckedupedness.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2013, 03:41:44 PM »
As for coughing one up to a relative, they wouldn't touch it. I know that one of the common disqualifying factors is multiple blood vessels going in/out. Most people have one big one going in. A few people have 3 smaller ones. An even smaller set have numerous tiny ones. During the workup they'll do an ultrasound to ascertain what the artery situation is, and if it's multiple in both, then it's a no-go.

Interesting, I didn't know they'd reject a donor based on that alone.  But I don't know much about the process.

However, a quick Pubmed search shows that horseshoe kidneys have been transplanted with success, although obviously it's rare and it appears that it has been done primarily in the UK.

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Occasionally they'll find one kidney that's normal and one with 3 arteries, and they'll take the one that's singular; this is the only time they take the left kidney instead of the right one (which is usually the case for some reason I forget, having to do with the asymmetry of one's innards).

You've got it backwards I think.  The left kidney is generally preferred; the situation you described (extra renal arteries on the left) would potentially be grounds for taking the right one instead, but that's the exception as far as I know.

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As DTF's resident MD, I am curious about something. Assuming you have a passing familiarity with anesthesiology, would there be any issue with me showing up for my operation twelve kinds of hungover? I'm kind of thinking it might be in my best interest to spend my last couple of days in a Hunter Thompson level of fuckedupedness.

Obviously it's generally discouraged, but any specific potential drug interactions will depend on what kind of anesthesia they use and the mechanism by which it's metabolized.  I think the main risks involve amplifying the CNS depression (sedative) effects of the anesthesia, which in a hypothetical worst case scenario means you die or have to be resuscitated.

If you do get hammered the night before against their wishes, I'd make extra sure to give every hospital staff member you see a heads up about it.

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2013, 03:56:20 PM »
I suspect the horseshoe transplant probably came from a cadaver. I wasn't looking at it from that angle. I can't imagine they'd split the thing to remove half of it from a living donor.

I knew the length of the renal artery was the consideration. It was Dr. Wikipedia that suggested the left was the longer artery.  :lol

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2013, 04:20:09 PM »
I suspect the horseshoe transplant probably came from a cadaver. I wasn't looking at it from that angle. I can't imagine they'd split the thing to remove half of it from a living donor.

Yep.  All of the cases I've found have been cadaveric transplants.

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I knew the length of the renal artery was the consideration. It was Dr. Wikipedia that suggested the left was the longer artery.  :lol

I think I misstated it too so I edited my earlier post.  The right renal ARTERY is longer than the left, but the left renal VEIN is longer than the right.  It appears that the vein is what is surgically relevant in this case.

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2013, 07:39:38 PM »
Well, holy shit.  That isn't spectacular.  However:

-Sounds like your SIL is awesome.
-Your overall attitude sounds healthy...unlikely that you're going to get your blood pressure up over this!
-Good luck and keep us posted!
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2013, 09:07:54 PM »
Holy shit man, I had no idea you were struggling with health issues like this.  Like others have said, it seems that you are in good spirits and definitely not in the worst case scenario, and that things seem to be looking up.  In any case I really hope everything goes well for you and that you don't deprive us of your posts here too often during your recovery time.  Because despite the shitty situational content, I must say that your post was hilarious. 
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2013, 11:25:15 PM »
I hope everything goes well for you.  Wish I could do more than just that, but like others have said, you seem to have the right attitude going forward. 
     

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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2013, 07:14:46 AM »
All my best to you, Bart! Godspeed! :tup
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2013, 11:48:38 AM »
Good luck, man. Hope you enjoy California in the mean time.
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Re: Episode 34: Kidney Time for Barto
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2013, 09:11:17 PM »
Good luck, Godspeed, and God Bless!
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