"It's your kids, Marty, we've gotta do something about your kids!"

[rumborak]

Has anybody played the BTTF Telltale Games game? It was surprisingly good actually, I enjoyed it.

[Orbert]

It doesn't make any sense why he wouldn't agree other than him being a douche nozzle.

He was.  When they started approaching each of the original cast members about making the sequels, according to the story, Glover asked for a ridiculous amount of money.  They tried to negotiate, but he was out of his mind (he's a pretty weird dude anyway) and I forget exactly how they worded it, but the figure he wanted was not consistent with his standing as an actor and his part in the movies, so they just got someone else.

First thing I thought of was how Marlon Brando got $3.7 million plus a percentage of Superman (the 1978 version) for being in the movie for ten minutes.  The movie was huge and he ended up taking like $14 million.  Ridiculous cash, but I guess when you're Marlon Brando, you can ask for that, and if they're willing to pay it, more power to you.  Except that Crispin Glover is no Marlon Brando.

[rumborak]

To be honest it was for the better anyway. Another actor would have had to run around with really bad makeup that is supposed to make them look old.

[Progmetty]

I think they were pretty good at pulling off the old make up in the BTTF movies. 1985 Doc. Brown, 1985 Loraine and 2015 Jennifer were the best, 2015 Biff was the only so-so.

[rumborak]

Yeah, I was thinking of old Biff when I made that comment. The others were alright.

[KevShmev]

I'm always amused when actors overprice themselves out of movies.  Robert Duvall asking too much for Godfather III is another example, although not having the Tom character in III really hurt what was already a weaker script anyway.  And Glover was no Duvall either (just like he was no Brando). 

[Progmetty]

I felt some loss without Glover in II & III, it would have definitely been better if at least 1885 Seamus McFly was played by him. Fox looked pretty silly in that, especially if Marty features are the product of Loraine and George mating, why would his McFly ancestors look like him and his mom who's not a McFly. Although I did like Lea Thompson as Maggie McFly.
Also Glover portrayl of George was erratic and cool, I enjoyed it a lot and I wonder how his goofiness would have been employed in BTTF II especially, I bet he would have played Marty's son in 2015 who characteristically behaves more like a young George than a young Marty.

[Cool Chris]

Getting off-topic, but yes, sometimes these agents can't really have their client's best interests in mind sometimes. The guy that played Clemenza wanted a greater say in his dialogue for Godfather II. They found an easier solution that that: A black armband, a passing comment, and voila! Clemenza is dead, and we get a much more dynamic and interesting character and subplot with Pantangelli. And after that, that actor went on to do.... what, exactly?

On topic, I have seen BTTF several times, BTTF3 twice, but have never seen BTTF2.

[BlobVanDam]

On topic, I have seen BTTF several times, BTTF3 twice, but have never seen BTTF2.

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK. WATCH IT NOW.



Sorry, this movie is something I feel very strongly about.

[Zook]

Why watch the third before the second? Twice even.

[Kotowboy]

To correct the paradox.

[Kotowboy]

It doesn't make any sense why he wouldn't agree other than him being a douche nozzle.

He was.  When they started approaching each of the original cast members about making the sequels, according to the story, Glover asked for a ridiculous amount of money.  They tried to negotiate, but he was out of his mind (he's a pretty weird dude anyway) and I forget exactly how they worded it, but the figure he wanted was not consistent with his standing as an actor and his part in the movies, so they just got someone else.

First thing I thought of was how Marlon Brando got $3.7 million plus a percentage of Superman (the 1978 version) for being in the movie for ten minutes.  The movie was huge and he ended up taking like $14 million.  Ridiculous cash, but I guess when you're Marlon Brando, you can ask for that, and if they're willing to pay it, more power to you.  Except that Crispin Glover is no Marlon Brando.

Glover was on Radio 5 some time ago and he said that he should have been paid the same as MJ Fox in the 1st film because " George Mcfly was more important in that film than Marty was. Marty was a supporting character. "

 

It's a real shame when people turn out to be like that. So many disputes boil down to money.

Slight tangent but it's the reason U2 are still the 4 same guys 30 + years later is because they have always split everything 25% each.

[Kotowboy]

Correct opinions stated in this thread-

-BTTF2 is the WORST them.

FTFY.

There is no way on Earth that 2 is better than 1.

1 is the greatest movie ever made. I saw it in the cinema again for the 25th anniversary. It was like watching it again for the first time.

2 has the unnecessary future stuff which only exists to send Biff back to 1955 and then it's the 1st film again.

I much prefer 3 to 2 despite there not being a lot of Sci Fi in it.. I saw 3 in the cinema too.

[Kotowboy]

When did BTTF2 come out ? 1991 ? 1992 ?

For arguments sake lets say it was 20 years ago and that would have made me about 14.

I remember people saying how confusing the film was and I understood it fine

I guess I must have been watching a lot of sci-fi. The UK started getting Star Trek TNG around that time too.

[BlobVanDam]

When did BTTF2 come out ? 1991 ? 1992 ?

For arguments sake lets say it was 20 years ago and that would have made me about 14.

I remember people saying how confusing the film was and I understood it fine

I guess I must have been watching a lot of sci-fi. The UK started getting Star Trek TNG around that time too.

1 was 1985, 2 was 1989, 3 was 1990.

[Kotowboy]

Ok cool i would have been about 10

And I still followed the plot. 

[KevShmev]

Glover was on Radio 5 some time ago and he said that he should have been paid the same as MJ Fox in the 1st film because " George Mcfly was more important in that film than Marty was. Marty was a supporting character. "
 

Well, it's true that George and Lorraine ending up together is what drives the bulk of the film, but the film is ultimately centered around the adventures of Marty and Doc and the time machine.  George/Lorraine was ultimately a plot device, albeit the main one, in their adventures, but Glover sounds pretty delusional.

[Kotowboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q7wGsVYydo

[hefdaddy42]

Maybe it's my age, and actually watching all 3 films in theaters on original release, but I can't fathom the possibility that anyone would prefer either of the sequels to the original.

[Zook]

I agree that Part 2 has the best scene of the series with Doc explaining the alternate timelines.

[Kotowboy]

Maybe it's my age, and actually watching all 3 films in theaters on original release, but I can't fathom the possibility that anyone would prefer either of the sequels to the original.

I saw them in order as well. When the first one came out I was pretty obsessed with it for a long time.

I was proper excited when 2 and 3 came out.

25 years later - I went to see the Digitally Remastered cinema re-release and it was just perfect.

[KevShmev]

Maybe it's my age, and actually watching all 3 films in theaters on original release, but I can't fathom the possibility that anyone would prefer either of the sequels to the original.

Well, speaking as someone who saw the first two in the theater, and then the third as soon as it came out on VHS (as opposed to younger folks who probably saw all three in a short time span), the four-year gap between I and II means that many of us had seen I probably dozens of times before II came out, so we had possibly burned out on it, and getting not one, but two new BTTF's in a such time span made them seem that much more exciting, as they were new, and we finally had new Back to the Future movies to watch, instead of watching the original for the 84th, 85th, etc. time.   As much as I have watched them all over the years, I have still seen I way more than the other two, so I am more likely to watch II and III if I randomly feel like watching any of them.

[Progmetty]

I wish I knew about the remastered cinema re-release, I'd love to see any of the BTTF movies on the big screen.
The first movie is a classic, the second one is a masterful sequel that was incredibly enjoyable, I can't really pick one over the other. I think of the first two as one long movie and the third is more like a stand-alone sequel.

[Zook]

I wish I knew about the remastered cinema re-release, I'd love to see any of the BTTF movies on the big screen.
The first movie is a classic, the second one is a masterful sequel that was incredibly enjoyable, I can't really pick one over the other. I think of the first two as one long movie and the third is more like a stand-alone sequel.

Splicing them together would be cool except for the sudden change of Jennifers.

[Kotowboy]

Although it does the proper trilogy thing of actually a story arc over the 3 films instead of two more films tacked on the end for the sake of it.

Too many films these days just get two sequels for the sake of it just so they can call it a trilogy.

[hefdaddy42]

For me, there is a drastic drop-off from the first to the sequels.  It was obviously created to be a stand-alone film, and it works perfectly in that regard.  I just can't see the greatness of the first in the sequels.  For me, they practically don't exist.  I only acknowledge the original.

[Kotowboy]

I wish I knew about the remastered cinema re-release, I'd love to see any of the BTTF movies on the big screen.
The first movie is a classic, the second one is a masterful sequel that was incredibly enjoyable, I can't really pick one over the other. I think of the first two as one long movie and the third is more like a stand-alone sequel.

Splicing them together would be cool except for the sudden change of Jennifers.

I was thinking - apart from the very start of BTTF 1 - you don't see Jen again until the scene that starts part 2. If you cut out her scenes in part 1 then you could get away with it

[Zook]

But you'd also cut out major plot points.... And Roger Rabbit.... Oh wait, that was Part 2.

[Kotowboy]

Chris Lloyd was Judge Doom in Back To The Future

[Zook]

Chris Lloyd was Judge Doom in Back To The Future

REMEMBER ME MARTY

WHEN I KILLED YOUR FATHER

[Kotowboy]

I USED. THE.SAME.GUN !!!!



True Story - I watched Part 2 again recently and it was the first time ever I realised Biff said

" Two McFly's with the same gun. "

I never understod the line before because of how Tom Wilson delivers it.

[KevShmev]

 

"I suppose it's poetic justice: two McFlys...with the same gun."

He is gonna kill Marty with the same gun he killed younger George with in the alternate reality. I always thought it was obvious that that is what he meant.

[Kotowboy]

I meant I didn't understand the actual words that he was saying.

He kinda mumbles it.

Of course I know he killed George. But i'm just talking about the way that Tom Wilson delivers the line as Biff.

I never *heard* what he said til recently..

[Zook]

I don't think Biff is capable of mumbling.

[KevShmev]

Haha, right.  Almost everything Biff said was at high volume and clear as day (or so I thought).  He was basically your loud, obnoxious butthead.