Geoff Tate's "Operation: Mindcrime" (not Queensryche)

[?]

Not sure if this was discussed, but did anyone notice the link on Tate's O:M website to the official Queensryche website?

That may be part of the settlement...

[Cyclopssss]

Man, just when I think the man can't reach any lower depths.....he goes and does another stupid thing. Why do I even bother?

[nobloodyname]

Look, I am not tapping such a filthy search term into Google. What's he done now?

[Cyclopssss]

Look at the pic.

[nobloodyname]

Oooops! Thought the comment before yours was a year ago. Bizarrely.

Yeah, that's horrid.

[Art]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7n-NC2qUU

i love Ripper and Blaze, but not even they could save this song. 

[bosk1]

That wasn't bad, actually.  First song from Tate in a long time that I haven't flat out disliked.  And although Tate still sounds strained and is singing from the neck up, at least he sounds like he is trying. 

[Ben_Jamin]

It's not a bad song. The video is funny though.

[bosk1]

Yeah, the video...  Why are Ripper and Blaze holding lyric sheets? 

[jjrock88]

Good song, much better then anything he has released in years (reinventing the future was good too).  I was hoping that Ripper and Blaze would have more solo parts, but the three work well together.

[T-ski]

I hear "I don't believe in love" guitar parts rehashed.

[TAC]

I hear "I don't believe in love" guitar parts rehashed.

The verses for sure.



I don't even know what to think about this.

[wolfking]

That actually wasn't bad to be honest.  Although, Blaze and Tim are under utilised, Tate still being Tate and not giving them much room here.

Yeah, the video...  Why are Ripper and Blaze holding lyric sheets? 

Yeah, I thought that was quite funny too.

[jjrock88]

This has got to be a huge victory for Geoff. So far the reviews are "not bad", "wasn't bad", "good" and " I don't know".

[wolfking]

This has got to be a huge victory for Geoff. So far the reviews are "not bad", "wasn't bad", "good" and " I don't know".

 

[bl5150]

Not totally shithouse.  Add that to the list JJ.

[jjrock88]

 

[Adami]

Pretty awful. Also obvious they do that one QR thing way too often, where they have an uptempo 4/4 beat with bass keeping the rhythm and the guitar doing a clean dreamy arpegio over it.


Also, after a while I just started skipping through it, but did the other two vocalists do any actual lead vocals? I may have missed it, but it seemed like they were just doing harmonies that Tate could have easily done himself.

[Phoenix87x]

All I could think of the whole time was The Three stooges

[Art]

Also, after a while I just started skipping through it, but did the other two vocalists do any actual lead vocals? I may have missed it, but it seemed like they were just doing harmonies that Tate could have easily done himself.

They each got like, 3 seconds of lead vocals. I don´t see the point of inviting two known singers, and use them for backing vocals and harmonies that, as you said, he could have done.

[ZirconBlue]

At one point, there was a project in the works to include Tate, Bruce Dickinson, and Rob Halford.  That project eventually fell through.  So, when Tate decides to revisit the idea he gets those guys' replacements?

[TAC]

At one point, there was a project in the works to include Tate, Bruce Dickinson, and Rob Halford.  That project eventually fell through.  So, when Tate decides to revisit the idea he gets those guys' replacements?

Too bad is didn't include Tate's replacement.

[Lowdz]

It's not bad but talk about 'phoning it in' , it sounds like they recorded the vocal down a phone line.
And I don't say this often, but I think I'm a better guitarist than Kelly Grey.
Production is shit.
Yeah, a lot better 

[Bertielee]

At one point, there was a project in the works to include Tate, Bruce Dickinson, and Rob Halford.  That project eventually fell through.  So, when Tate decides to revisit the idea he gets those guys' replacements?

Too bad is didn't include Tate's replacement.

You made my day, TAC!

B.Lee

[ZirconBlue]

At one point, there was a project in the works to include Tate, Bruce Dickinson, and Rob Halford.  That project eventually fell through.  So, when Tate decides to revisit the idea he gets those guys' replacements?

Too bad is didn't include Tate's replacement.

 

[Setlist Scotty]

Things to make you say hmmmmmmmmmm.....
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tim-ripper-owens-i-wont-be-working-with-geoff-tate-again/

[bosk1]

Hmmmmmm.

[Samsara]

Completely speculation, but my guess is that it is a $$$$ thing, plain and simple.

When you have Tate, Ripper, and Blaze, all three of those guys want to get a decent chunk of change. And arguably, Ripper is the best out of all three of them, and is used to getting paid at a certain level.

I checked out a few clips -- it was cool to see the three of them, but (total speculation here) if Ripper wasn't getting paid what he was used to getting, then I don't blame him for stepping aside.

[MirrorMask]

At one point, there was a project in the works to include Tate, Bruce Dickinson, and Rob Halford.  That project eventually fell through.  So, when Tate decides to revisit the idea he gets those guys' replacements?

This made me remember of that project, back in 2000-2001 or so.

It's hilarous that as you said he exactly got the replacement of the other two singers 

[jammindude]

Completely speculation, but my guess is that it is a $$$$ thing, plain and simple.

When you have Tate, Ripper, and Blaze, all three of those guys want to get a decent chunk of change. And arguably, Ripper is the best out of all three of them, and is used to getting paid at a certain level.

I checked out a few clips -- it was cool to see the three of them, but (total speculation here) if Ripper wasn't getting paid what he was used to getting, then I don't blame him for stepping aside.

But he specifically ruled out working with Geoff in particular, and then said he WOULD be working with Blaze.

[Samsara]

Completely speculation, but my guess is that it is a $$$$ thing, plain and simple.

When you have Tate, Ripper, and Blaze, all three of those guys want to get a decent chunk of change. And arguably, Ripper is the best out of all three of them, and is used to getting paid at a certain level.

I checked out a few clips -- it was cool to see the three of them, but (total speculation here) if Ripper wasn't getting paid what he was used to getting, then I don't blame him for stepping aside.

But he specifically ruled out working with Geoff in particular, and then said he WOULD be working with Blaze.

Did I misread it? I could have sworn he said that Geoff and Blaze may take it to Europe, but he (Ripper) would not be a part of it.

Edit -- I see what you noted now. Hmm. Interesting. I dunno, I still say money is the primary reason. I don't want to get too negative, but if you know the history of the Tates, usually a couple reasons come into play ultimately with these types of things. Best wishes to everyone involved. Looking forward to Ripper's next project and the next Tate acoustic tour.

[Zook]

That headline is misleading and very clickbaity. They make it sound like there were problems, but Ripper said "unfortunlately he wont be working with him" and overall it was a great time.

[Mladen]

I don't know why, but it strikes me as sad when I see these three guys touring together. It's like "hey, look at us, we used to sing in legendary bands, but we don't anymore, so we'll get together and throw in some old Ryche, Priest and Maiden songs all together."

Gimme a solo Blaze Bayley performance instead, thank you very much.

[Samsara]

I don't know why, but it strikes me as sad when I see these three guys touring together. It's like "hey, look at us, we used to sing in legendary bands, but we don't anymore, so we'll get together and throw in some old Ryche, Priest and Maiden songs all together."

Gimme a solo Blaze Bayley performance instead, thank you very much.

I'm with you, honestly. The Trinity thing didn't happen near me, but had it, I wouldn't have gone. It was something I think they were all hoping would grab the interests of promoters, and it didn't. That's the issue with this stuff. Had it been Dickinson and Halford touring together doing something similar, I think it would be huge -- because they are still in their bands, and they have much bigger profiles. Promoters would have anted up because they know people would come check it out.

But for two replacement singers of legendary bands, and one original singer whose reputation has been soiled publicly, there's just not enough there (if I was a promoter) to throw cash at them. It was gimmicky. Whereas, if it was 15 years ago, and Dickinson-Halford-Tate, it would have been huge. They honestly should have made that happen.

[Setlist Scotty]

That headline is misleading and very clickbaity. They make it sound like there were problems, but Ripper said "unfortunlately he wont be working with him" and overall it was a great time.

I disagree. Sure he said "unfortunately", but then he followed that up with "So we'll leave it at that. But I will be working with Blaze Bayley." In other words, there's a lot more dirt to the story than he's willing to bring up because he doesn't want to create a bunch of negativity. Which is probably why he also said "It was a lot of fun — we laughed a lot and had a good time." Probably some truth to that, but probably just as much PR talk as anything. Considering Tater's ways, including that of his manager wife, I'd be surprised if there wasn't problems! Seems that several well known or semi-well known musicians seem to distance themselves from the Taters after working with them, for whatever reason, such as Glen Drover, the Sarzo brothers, Craig Locicero, etc.