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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #140 on: May 31, 2017, 04:57:01 AM »
And in keeping with my tradition of finishing the series in 24 hours this season was no exception. Wow, this was a packed season with crazy amount of twists and turns with crazy episodes getting crazier. I loved this season, superb all round.
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« Reply #141 on: June 09, 2017, 05:30:00 PM »
I actually found myself feeling very disappointed by this season. Beware of the lightest of spoilers from here, but I didn't find the last episode's twists believable at all. Major SPOILERS: Mainly the abruptness of Frank's change of heart. Of course, he was bullshitting to Claire when he said that leaving the Presidency for the private sector with her in his place, and but it otherwise just felt so damn contrived. Four seasons building up to him gaining a mandate from the people, and he quits the job a few episodes after actually getting it? And all it takes is a suggestion from Davis that she can supply Frank private sector connections? Not to mention that ICO went nowhere, folks around the President die and no one bats an eyelash, Catherine fucking Durant, it all just felt so poorly written. Now I'm just griping, but man, we could've seen Frank deteriorate into worse paranoia, we could've seen the seeds sewn for a dictatorship-lite, idk man. I just wasn't pleased at all. Besides watching Conway slowly lose it, that was very interesting. Davis too, I found myself warming to her by season's end.

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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #142 on: June 17, 2017, 03:23:03 PM »
Finished season 5 today and loved almost all of it. The thing I didn't like was the very end. We've seen enough of Claire vs Frank by now, and this show is always at its best when they're on the same page and working together. I don't need to see this a.. what is it, fourth time now?

Other than that, I thought it was all great.
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« Reply #143 on: June 17, 2017, 11:59:57 PM »
I think the ending of the season definitely should've been fleshed out better, it's way too sudden and really doesn't fit in with how the entirety of the past seasons have been going. Since the show has sorta surprisingly not been renewed by Netflix yet, I'd hate for the show to end the way it did. I've read a few forums and a huge majority of people feel the same way as Zeltar.

I personally can give a few things a pass but I'm really not sure about Frank's motivation as he explained to Claire. The show can do better, I'm also hoping they end it sooner rather than later.
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« Reply #144 on: October 31, 2017, 01:16:47 PM »

Not entirely surprising that season six is going to be the last for the series. Official renewal just came yesterday which I thought was surprising but according to the producers it was already planned to be the last well before these Spacey allegations came out.
The production for the show is currently suspended too so I'm wondering what they plan on doing. I'm guessing they're going to rewrite it a lot around Kevin Spacey's character and make Claire's role even more prominent.

Personally I think the ideas they had from seasons 3,4 & 5 could've all fit in one season in a much tighter format. The show, of course, could've ended much earlier but my guess is that Netflix realized this show is making them bank, pulling a lot of new subscribers in, and they decided to keep stretching it out.

Curious to see how it will go from here, I'm willing to bet the last season will be the least watched of the series. There's also word that they want to do a spinoff with Doug's character. As much as I love his character, I don't think I'd be watching that show. He's good in the context of the show but as a standalone, don't think he'd be able to pull it off.

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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #145 on: October 31, 2017, 01:36:30 PM »
There can't be a show nowadays without people making 8903457038457340534 spin-offs.  ::)

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« Reply #146 on: November 01, 2017, 07:33:38 AM »
a spinoff with Doug's character?! well, so much for my theory that he'd snuff it next season. no way could I see that being a viable show

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« Reply #147 on: November 01, 2017, 11:26:03 AM »
a spinoff with Doug's character?! well, so much for my theory that he'd snuff it next season. no way could I see that being a viable show

He's a good sidekick but I don't see enough charisma there to make a lead. Talking about the character btw, not the actor.

I don't really see many spinoff worthy characters in the show really. Maybe a russian House of Cards with Viktor Petrov shitting on any and all of his opponents (and perhaps some allies too for good measure).

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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #148 on: November 03, 2017, 09:07:42 PM »
There can't be a show nowadays without people making 8903457038457340534 spin-offs.  ::)

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The Walking Dead --> Fear The Walking Dead
Breaking Bad --> Better Call Saul

A Game of Thrones spin-off is already in the works too.

Truth be told the Better Call Saul really surprised me by how good it was. I mean I think it's on par with Breaking Bad though in a different way.
I gave up on Fear the walking dead after 2 episodes of the 2nd season. I'm probably going to stop watching TWD as well.

Don't know about the GOT spinoff just yet, there's still time for that.

...and in House of Cards news, looks like Netflix has dropped all ties with Spacey and the writers are in the process of writing the final season without Spacey. They apparently already shot two episodes when production was halted.


Looks like his character is going out with a whimper on the show.
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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #149 on: November 03, 2017, 09:21:39 PM »
I totally get why they fired Spacey, but what a unsatisfying conclusion it will now be to the series.  The whole thing has built up to seeing Frank Underwood gets what's coming to him and now he will probably be killed off screen.  Like I said, I get why they have to do it, but from a storytelling standpoint, it really sucks for loyal viewers (which I would not call myself anymore, not since Season 3-ish).

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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2017, 09:39:31 PM »
No point in watching House of Cards without Kevin Spacey as far as Iím concerned.

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« Reply #151 on: November 04, 2017, 02:45:27 AM »
No point in watching House of Cards without Kevin Spacey as far as Iím concerned.

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« Reply #152 on: November 04, 2017, 05:04:23 PM »
I think the writers and show-runners are in a very tough and almost impossible situation. Spacey was the star of the series and regardless of the shift they started with giving Robin Wright more screen time and making her more prominent, Spacey was still the draw of the show. I am going to watch it when it comes out, hopefully it does come out, I don't think there will be any easy maneuvering without making it awkward.
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Re: House Of Cards (Netflix) - v.Season 5 (spoilers ahead)
« Reply #153 on: November 23, 2017, 01:40:53 AM »
Finished recently to watch season 5. Meh, what a clusterfuck.

Before watching it (I didn't start until the Kevin Spacey scandal) I was a bit sad that the series had to end this way, now after having watched it I'd say "well, about time they finish it".

The change of the writing team it showed very clearly, the storylines were all contrived and made no sense. As pointed above, one episode they go "One nation Underwood", stating the election years for almost decades to come, and then Frank goes "Nah, I'll kick myself out of an elected presidency a month after having finally got it"???

Also: What's in the world of the show the appeal of Frank Underwood? He's as shady as it can be, he didn't really accomplish anything except the America Works program. Maybe it could have been interesting to have a Palpatine approach, to present a wolf in sheep's clothing and having him beloved doing nice things, while being a relentless blackmailer behind closed doors.

Really, Kevin Spacey Spacey-ing all over the place was the main and essentially only draw of this show (See the scene in which he announces his resignation), without him the last season will be even poorer than the last.

Another detail - I've read a comment on the web how 13 episodes for 4 seasons make 52 episodes, and 52 is the numer of cards in a deck. Now that I've read it, I'll forever regret the series didn't end with Season 4, it should have been two season of rise (the final scene of Season 2 is the best of the series for me, it's almost satisfying as a series finale), one season of uncertainty and the final season of fall. Damn, "House of Cards" literally means "Something that takes a long time to build and comes down very quickly", take the hint from the name of the show, showrunners.
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« Reply #154 on: November 23, 2017, 05:08:45 AM »
Everything in your last paragraph is exactly how I feel as well.
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