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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #245 on: August 08, 2013, 09:42:09 PM »
Well that made me depressed.

Why is that? If anything at all, I think the person who gets to witness the Halley's Comet TWICE in a life time is blessed! Cheer up, people.  ;)

I interpreted it as the people who would appreciate Halley's Comet have died off and there's no one left who has any desire to watch it anymore.

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #246 on: August 08, 2013, 10:48:32 PM »
Well that made me depressed.

Why is that? If anything at all, I think the person who gets to witness the Halley's Comet TWICE in a life time is blessed! Cheer up, people.  ;)

I interpreted it as the people who would appreciate Halley's Comet have died off and there's no one left who has any desire to watch it anymore.

I think it was only referring to the one person, and contrasting how short our lives are compared to the vastness of space and time.
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« Reply #247 on: August 09, 2013, 12:10:14 AM »
Well that made me depressed.

Why is that? If anything at all, I think the person who gets to witness the Halley's Comet TWICE in a life time is blessed! Cheer up, people.  ;)

I interpreted it as the people who would appreciate Halley's Comet have died off and there's no one left who has any desire to watch it anymore.

I think it was only referring to the one person, and contrasting how short our lives are compared to the vastness of space and time.

And that is why I think for those who witness such event not once but twice or more in a life time are remarkable and blessed. I don't know, maybe I am just a glass half full kind of person, I don't view that picture in a sad way whatsoever.  :hat
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #248 on: August 09, 2013, 03:04:28 AM »
Are there any theoretical physicists here? I have a question concerning relativity.
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #249 on: August 09, 2013, 03:16:04 AM »
Well that made me depressed.

Why is that? If anything at all, I think the person who gets to witness the Halley's Comet TWICE in a life time is blessed! Cheer up, people.  ;)

Well, I'm in the generation that will need to live somewhat long to see the comet even once. I was born just a couple of years after 86's disappointing run.
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #250 on: August 09, 2013, 03:54:44 AM »
Well that made me depressed.

Why is that? If anything at all, I think the person who gets to witness the Halley's Comet TWICE in a life time is blessed! Cheer up, people.  ;)

I interpreted it as the people who would appreciate Halley's Comet have died off and there's no one left who has any desire to watch it anymore.

I think it was only referring to the one person, and contrasting how short our lives are compared to the vastness of space and time.
Yea that's what I felt. He had a remarkable life no doubts about that but the fact that we humans have such a short life span compared to events in the universe makes me atleast feel a little sad and slightly melancholy.
Yes you should live life to the fullest and celeberate the things you have instead of the things you don't have but still....
I can't help and wonder that alot of astronomers must feel sad at some point in their life that they're not gonna be able to witness alot of those things they're most passionate about during their short life span.


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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #251 on: August 09, 2013, 04:15:13 AM »
I will be sad if:

- I don't see a galactic supernova within my lifetime
- A Great Comet in my lifetime without having to move to the southern fucking hemisphere
- We devise methods to pinpoint habitable planets with greater accuracy and confidence


By the way Blob, did you see the Great Comet of 2007? It made quite a show that year down under.
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #252 on: August 09, 2013, 04:22:49 AM »
By the way Blob, did you see the Great Comet of 2007? It made quite a show that year down under.

I don't think so. I don't even recall hearing about it, but from photos it looks like it was one heck of a sight.  :o What a shame to have missed that.
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« Reply #253 on: August 09, 2013, 04:31:02 AM »
By the way Blob, did you see the Great Comet of 2007? It made quite a show that year down under.

I don't think so. I don't even recall hearing about it, but from photos it looks like it was one heck of a sight.  :o What a shame to have missed that.

I saw it one day right after sunset, plunging into the horizon, and it was still Pre-Perihelium, that is to saz before the show. You missed indeed the show of a lifetime, that's been called as one of the most beautiful comets of the last century, if not the most beautiful.
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #254 on: August 09, 2013, 09:25:06 AM »
I will be sad if:

- We devise methods to pinpoint habitable planets with greater accuracy and confidence


you will be sad if we devise methods to pinpoint habitable planets with accuracy and confidence?
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #255 on: August 09, 2013, 09:33:53 AM »
Yeah, I see that as a good thing.  It might not help us a lot now, but in the future, it will help us find planets which (a) if inhabited, will be most likely to have life forms similar to our own, and (b) if uninhabited, will be the best choices to colonize when our species is ready to do that.

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #256 on: August 09, 2013, 09:34:37 AM »
I will be sad if:

- We devise methods to pinpoint habitable planets with greater accuracy and confidence


you will be sad if we devise methods to pinpoint habitable planets with accuracy and confidence?

Quite the opposite, in fact! The don't was clearly abridged by a roaming black hole.
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #257 on: August 11, 2013, 07:47:47 AM »
This is unreal! Astronomers found an ancient star 'Methuselah', which appears to be older than the universe!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/08/astronomers-find-ancient-star-methuselah_n_2834999.html
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #258 on: August 11, 2013, 08:06:24 AM »
That's pretty damn cool.
This is as exciting as superluminal neutrinos. The sexy thing is that this actually exists :D

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #259 on: August 11, 2013, 08:15:00 AM »
Good News, Everyone!  Astronomers found an ancient star 'Methuselah', which appears to be older than the universe!


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« Reply #260 on: August 11, 2013, 08:21:40 AM »
Early results. Move along people, there's nothing interesting here that won't be toned down to normality within the next few years :D
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #261 on: August 11, 2013, 08:27:26 AM »
This is unreal! Astronomers found an ancient star 'Methuselah', which appears to be older than the universe!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/08/astronomers-find-ancient-star-methuselah_n_2834999.html

I don't understand how they can gather information from a star that far away, and 'age' it, just from the light it gives off? It's remarkable.....but at the same time to me it seems they can say whatever the heck they want because 99.99% of the population wouldn't know any different anyway.
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« Reply #262 on: August 11, 2013, 08:34:32 AM »
This is unreal! Astronomers found an ancient star 'Methuselah', which appears to be older than the universe!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/08/astronomers-find-ancient-star-methuselah_n_2834999.html

I don't understand how they can gather information from a star that far away, and 'age' it, just from the light it gives off? It's remarkable.....but at the same time to me it seems they can say whatever the heck they want because 99.99% of the population wouldn't know any different anyway.

The star is actually pretty close and yes, you can take a guess at a star's age just looking at it, much like with humans. The fact is, it's really very difficult, especially for lone stars like that one. It's very easy to misjudge one hint, or to apply an incomplete theory outside the range where it's proved effective and  consistent
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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #263 on: August 11, 2013, 08:36:52 AM »
If it's older than the universe, yet part of it, then I think it more likely that something is wrong with the way they've been calculating the ages of things, rather than some kind of temporal paradox.

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #264 on: August 11, 2013, 08:55:38 AM »
If it's older than the universe, yet part of it, then I think it more likely that something is wrong with the way they've been calculating the ages of things, rather than some kind of temporal paradox.

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #265 on: August 11, 2013, 08:58:08 AM »
News just in: stars come with time machines.
This is as exciting as superluminal neutrinos. The sexy thing is that this actually exists :D

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« Reply #266 on: August 11, 2013, 10:30:00 AM »
Following this thread now :)

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« Reply #267 on: August 11, 2013, 10:47:48 AM »
If it's older than the universe, yet part of it, then I think it more likely that something is wrong with the way they've been calculating the ages of things, rather than some kind of temporal paradox.

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« Reply #268 on: August 11, 2013, 01:16:08 PM »
News just in: stars come with time machines.

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #269 on: August 11, 2013, 01:26:14 PM »
This is unreal! Astronomers found an ancient star 'Methuselah', which appears to be older than the universe!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/08/astronomers-find-ancient-star-methuselah_n_2834999.html
That's pretty awesome and it's even inside our own galaxy!  :omg:
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« Reply #270 on: August 11, 2013, 07:53:19 PM »
If it's older than the universe, yet part of it, then I think it more likely that something is wrong with the way they've been calculating the ages of things, rather than some kind of temporal paradox.

Exactly. Plus, there is a margin of error of about 800 million years or so in the way scentists calculate age of stars anyway. With all factors being considered, this star might have formed just around the same time when our unverse was formed as well. I guess what I am trying to say is, regardless of the result at the end, this is still an interesting news. And I thought early stars were formed much "later" than that.
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« Reply #271 on: August 12, 2013, 02:31:21 AM »
And I thought early stars were formed much "later" than that.

I was also under the impression that the first generation of stars was gone by now. These were some interesting news.

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« Reply #272 on: August 12, 2013, 06:21:54 AM »
And I thought early stars were formed much "later" than that.

I was also under the impression that the first generation of stars was gone by now. These were some interesting news.

I think it's fairly certain that the level of metallicity of that stars, while very low, are incompatible with the metal abundance predicted for Population III (first generation) stars. Hence, that's a very very old Pupulation II star.
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« Reply #274 on: August 14, 2013, 03:17:48 PM »
This is unreal! Astronomers found an ancient star 'Methuselah', which appears to be older than the universe!

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/08/astronomers-find-ancient-star-methuselah_n_2834999.html

I don't understand how they can gather information from a star that far away, and 'age' it, just from the light it gives off? It's remarkable.....but at the same time to me it seems they can say whatever the heck they want because 99.99% of the population wouldn't know any different anyway.
yeah, but the great thing about science is that if you talk nonsense, someone in that 0.01% will call you out on it quick.

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Re: The Official Space and Astronomy Thread v. Well, this is weird.
« Reply #275 on: August 15, 2013, 12:22:33 PM »
I really really want to watch SpaceX's new Grasshopper video, but my work's network blocks it :( It flew for over a minute this time, and it not only hovered, but it moved 328 feet to the side and back before landing back on it's launch pad! So cool!!

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« Reply #276 on: August 15, 2013, 12:54:45 PM »
I had no idea what you were talking about, so I looked it up
https://www.space.com/22379-spacex-grasshopper-rocket-sideways-flight-video.html

pretty amazing

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« Reply #277 on: August 15, 2013, 12:57:37 PM »
I had no idea what you were talking about, so I looked it up
https://www.space.com/22379-spacex-grasshopper-rocket-sideways-flight-video.html

pretty amazing

That video actually worked on my network. Thank you so much !!!!!  :lol

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« Reply #278 on: August 15, 2013, 12:58:26 PM »
yay google! lol

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« Reply #279 on: September 12, 2013, 11:31:36 PM »
We have known it for some time but it's now official that Voyager 1 has left our Solar system and entered interstellar space.

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/12/tech/innovation/voyager-solar-system/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Really astounding when you think that a man made objective have travelled so far in space.

Nasa AmA:

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