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« Reply #7490 on: December 06, 2016, 01:29:55 PM »
I wish DT would stop trying to cop a certain "style" and just wear normal clothes like every other progressive metal band these days. Just saw JLB post his new clothing line endorsement on his wall, and I think it looks really silly and dated. Surely metal fans realize by now that there's nothing cool about a guy wearing skulls and pentagrams on his pants.



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« Reply #7491 on: December 06, 2016, 01:48:11 PM »
That is so bad.
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« Reply #7492 on: December 06, 2016, 02:14:57 PM »
While I wouldnt wear that (and I am not a fashion person) I also don't find anything wrong about that attire from a musician.  Sometimes musicians wear some weird clothes, but I don't find these to be weird or odd or out of touch at all, just seems to be his style which works fine for him IMO. 

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« Reply #7493 on: December 06, 2016, 07:27:29 PM »
I wish DT would stop trying to cop a certain "style" and just wear normal clothes like every other progressive metal band these days. Just saw JLB post his new clothing line endorsement on his wall, and I think it looks really silly and dated. Surely metal fans realize by now that there's nothing cool about a guy wearing skulls and pentagrams on his pants.



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« Reply #7494 on: December 06, 2016, 08:06:56 PM »
While I wouldnt wear that (and I am not a fashion person) I also don't find anything wrong about that attire from a musician.  Sometimes musicians wear some weird clothes, but I don't find these to be weird or odd or out of touch at all, just seems to be his style which works fine for him IMO.

Pretty much this. I've seen some pretty obscure looking outfits on metal bands. This is not something so far out there. That shirt is pretty damn cool though.

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« Reply #7495 on: December 06, 2016, 08:09:36 PM »
I noticed a similar-looking (but not identical) wardrobe at the Reno show and thought it was pretty cool.  Not sure why people have an issue with how somebody chooses to dress, as long as there isn't anything inappropriate about it.
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« Reply #7496 on: December 06, 2016, 08:30:51 PM »
Seriously. These people obviously haven't checked out some of the outfits on black metal bands. :lol

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« Reply #7497 on: December 06, 2016, 08:32:14 PM »
Seriously. These people obviously haven't checked out some of the outfits on black metal bands. :lol

Oh we have. And we make fun of them too.

There's only a few musicians who can truly pull off weird outfits (today). Kiss, Rob Halford, Coz, and a few others. It's a short list though.
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« Reply #7498 on: December 06, 2016, 08:37:42 PM »
Seriously. These people obviously haven't checked out some of the outfits on black metal bands. :lol

Oh we have. And we make fun of them too.

There's only a few musicians who can truly pull off weird outfits (today). Kiss, Rob Halford, Coz, and a few others. It's a short list though.

I was just thinking Manowar and that's it.

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« Reply #7499 on: December 06, 2016, 08:41:07 PM »
Seriously. These people obviously haven't checked out some of the outfits on black metal bands. :lol

Oh we have. And we make fun of them too.

There's only a few musicians who can truly pull off weird outfits (today). Kiss, Rob Halford, Coz, and a few others. It's a short list though.

I was just thinking Manowar and that's it.

Forgot Manowar were still around. But yea, them too.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #7501 on: December 06, 2016, 09:08:51 PM »
Seriously. These people obviously haven't checked out some of the outfits on black metal bands. :lol

Oh we have. And we make fun of them too.

There's only a few musicians who can truly pull off weird outfits (today). Kiss, Rob Halford, Coz, and a few others. It's a short list though.

I was just thinking Manowar and that's it.

Forgot Manowar were still around. But yea, them too.

I wouldn't say that Manowar really pull it off.  I'm going to break my rule and just say that what they wear looks stupid.  And it always has.  :lol

















































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« Reply #7502 on: December 07, 2016, 01:18:55 AM »
He's a performer on stage, I don't find nothing wrong with the outfit.

I don't like the pic *itself*, James looks weird, the photographer could have really asked for another pose / angle.
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« Reply #7503 on: December 07, 2016, 03:34:56 AM »
Manowar do pull it off. At least the stuff they wear post 80s homoerotic phase that every metal band seemed to be in for the most part at that time.

Shit like that (NSFW), https://www.deathmetal.org/wp-content/uploads/manowar-1-700x394.jpg , is not appropriate unless you're a male stripper imo. If you have to write NSFW when linking anything metal and the nsfw part is not women or gore, you're doing it wrong lol! Their more leather/biker looks is fine, though.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #7504 on: December 07, 2016, 07:12:09 AM »
  If you have to write NSFW when linking anything metal and the nsfw part is not women or gore, you're doing it wrong lol!
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« Reply #7505 on: December 07, 2016, 08:02:18 AM »
He's a performer on stage, I don't find nothing wrong with the outfit.

I don't like the pic *itself*, James looks weird, the photographer could have really asked for another pose / angle.

For me it's the hair actually.
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« Reply #7506 on: December 07, 2016, 08:12:39 AM »
He's a performer on stage, I don't find nothing wrong with the outfit.

I don't like the pic *itself*, James looks weird, the photographer could have really asked for another pose / angle.

For me it's the hair actually.

It goes with the style of music I guess but he would look much better wearing a shirt with jeans.  I guess he has to look mean :lol
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« Reply #7507 on: December 07, 2016, 08:18:35 AM »
It reminds me of 80s The Cure in an odd way :lol
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« Reply #7508 on: December 07, 2016, 02:58:16 PM »
He's a performer on stage, I don't find nothing wrong with the outfit.

I don't like the pic *itself*, James looks weird, the photographer could have really asked for another pose / angle.

For me it's the hair actually.

It goes with the style of music I guess but he would look much better wearing a shirt with jeans.  I guess he has to look mean :lol

If he tried to look mean in that photo he totally failed :rollin

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« Reply #7510 on: December 07, 2016, 04:31:58 PM »
If you can't say something nice, erm .... I love James' voice a very large amount!
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« Reply #7511 on: December 07, 2016, 04:57:54 PM »
I wish DT would stop trying to cop a certain "style" and just wear normal clothes like every other progressive metal band these days. Just saw JLB post his new clothing line endorsement on his wall, and I think it looks really silly and dated. Surely metal fans realize by now that there's nothing cool about a guy wearing skulls and pentagrams on his pants.

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lol wtf was he thinking

He usually looks classier than that in the MM era, even when (in the 2nd pic) he chooses a rockish look. Look at this:



or this:



That endorsement is the worst I've ever seen him.

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« Reply #7512 on: December 07, 2016, 07:22:48 PM »
What year was Emotrucci? Maybe they're returning to their roots.
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« Reply #7513 on: December 07, 2016, 07:27:24 PM »
What year was Emotrucci? Maybe they're returning to their roots.

Well they're clearly dying their roots at least.
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« Reply #7514 on: December 07, 2016, 08:07:23 PM »
What year was Emotrucci? Maybe they're returning to their roots.

Well they're clearly dying their roots at least.

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« Reply #7515 on: December 07, 2016, 08:13:27 PM »
What year was Emotrucci? Maybe they're returning to their roots.

Well they're clearly dying their roots at least.

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« Reply #7516 on: December 07, 2016, 08:18:36 PM »
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« Reply #7517 on: December 07, 2016, 08:28:46 PM »
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« Reply #7518 on: December 09, 2016, 12:33:52 AM »
Personally, I have a bigger problem with the fact he's endorsing clothes (dude, that's the spirit of rock n roll  :metal ) than with how the outfit looks like. Yep, the attire might be a bit dated and he looks a bit hooker-ish there (which is just as much the photographer's fault if not more so), but I like the duds.
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« Reply #7519 on: March 07, 2017, 09:24:53 AM »
Random thought: I think they should have chosen the "Dream Theater" album title for TA actually, and given DT12 some other name. I feel TA is much closer to representing what DT are about than DT12.
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« Reply #7520 on: March 07, 2017, 09:50:35 AM »
Storywise it doesn't make much sense, it would rob also the album of the ultimate climax, the title being told at the very end.
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« Reply #7521 on: March 07, 2017, 10:40:01 AM »
Illumination Theory would have been a good title to DT12.  I think that album is a good representation of what DT is all about, so I'm ok with it being self titled. The bummer thing is, my DT12 CD disappeared over a year ago and I still haven't bought a new one. It's on of my fav albums of all time and I am still looking for my copy hoping it will turn up somewhere.
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« Reply #7522 on: March 07, 2017, 11:54:34 AM »
I&W Anniversary tour is indeed smart move for gaining attention again by fans but I feel not smart move for DT itself regarding their current musical presentation. Even tuning down doesn't help James seems not happy at all (plus he was sick during the tour). Mangini has lots of critisms about not playing certain and significant parts of the songs. Even others seem bored and tired as well in some videos.

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« Reply #7523 on: March 07, 2017, 12:44:08 PM »
At my show James was on fire and the half step downtuning helped him to not choke on impossible vocal lines.
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« Reply #7524 on: March 07, 2017, 04:29:01 PM »
Im not sure if this qualifies as controversial or not but ive never liked Jordan Rudess' playing. He is super talented. Otherworldly talented. I know this to be true. But i dont find his lines or his solos memorable at all and i beyond a lick or two on scenes 2 and SDOIT i can never remember anything hes done that i can hum or remember.

I always kick myself for not enjoying his playing because hes so talented. But I cant fake it. I just dont enjoy him musically.