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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6370 on: July 02, 2015, 09:12:32 PM »
Judging by that other thread about "The Holy Trinity", it seems like this is an unpopular opinion: I think DT12 is a top 3 (possibly top 2) DT album ::)

I think it's probably a top 5 album, but top 3, not likely.

Another controversy opinion in a similar vein: FII may well be a top 3 album and is definitely a top 5 album.
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« Reply #6371 on: July 03, 2015, 12:00:11 AM »
Amen, brother. FII is shit on far too often, aside from YNM (which isn't bad, just kinda there), it's awesome all the way through.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6372 on: July 03, 2015, 01:59:22 AM »
Already said it in a previous thread but - my *un*-holy trinity.

10. Systematic Chaos
11. Awake
12. When Dream And Day Unite.


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« Reply #6373 on: July 03, 2015, 04:28:25 AM »
Judging by that other thread about "The Holy Trinity", it seems like this is an unpopular opinion: I think DT12 is a top 3 (possibly top 2) DT album ::)

Unpopular for sure. Maybe it's just me, but retrospective opinions on the album seem to be pretty lukewarm at best. I think it's well within the top half of their discography for me.

I put it right besides BC&SL at the bottom
I agree with the latter half of your post, BCSL deserves to be at the dead bottom.

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« Reply #6374 on: July 03, 2015, 07:12:03 AM »
While the production does get a lot of flak (reasonably so), I have seen a lot of criticism regarding the song-writing as well.

A Dream Theater album receiving criticism for a reason or another... it seems pretty much the same as most of their other albums to me  :lol

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6375 on: July 03, 2015, 09:04:42 AM »
While the production does get a lot of flak (reasonably so), I have seen a lot of criticism regarding the song-writing as well.

A Dream Theater album receiving criticism for a reason or another... it seems pretty much the same as most of their other albums to me  :lol
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6376 on: July 03, 2015, 11:34:18 AM »
the problem with dt12 is tha.... zzzz....

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6377 on: July 03, 2015, 04:36:01 PM »
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6378 on: July 03, 2015, 04:42:38 PM »
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« Reply #6379 on: July 03, 2015, 05:20:03 PM »
unholy trinity?

awake
FII
WDADU

and that's real easy for me

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6380 on: July 03, 2015, 06:35:28 PM »
Unholy

BC&SL
ADTOE
WDADU


Holy

Six Degrees

Awake/8VM
SFAM

Can't decide on the second place there.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6381 on: July 03, 2015, 06:40:46 PM »
Unholy trinity is obviously

10. When Dream and Day Unite
11. Systematic Chaos
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6382 on: July 03, 2015, 06:56:55 PM »
No, the unholiest one:

BC
&SL
DT12

And that's it.
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« Reply #6383 on: July 03, 2015, 09:22:25 PM »
i refuse to take part in the Unholy discussion
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6384 on: July 03, 2015, 10:23:00 PM »
WDADU, DT12, ADTOE.

If I deleted those albums, it would be no loss to my music listening.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6385 on: July 03, 2015, 10:26:00 PM »
Black Clouds, SC and WDADU.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6386 on: July 03, 2015, 11:00:06 PM »
WDADU, BC&SL, DT12

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6387 on: July 04, 2015, 02:41:28 AM »
i refuse to take part in the Unholy discussion
people on this board are actual music fans who developed taste in music and not casual listeners who are following current fashion trends and listening to only current commercial hits.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6388 on: July 04, 2015, 04:38:51 AM »
Again, my opinion quoted the other thread:
10. TOT
11. SC
12. BCSL

Honestly I still definitely like TOT, and either like or feeling neutral about half of SC and BCSL. There are a few moments, and a LOT of moments I hate about both of the last 2 albums, but I wouldn't go as far as saying I could ignore BCSL entirely.

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« Reply #6389 on: July 04, 2015, 08:43:58 AM »
10: WDaDU
11: SC
12: FII
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6390 on: July 04, 2015, 08:49:14 AM »
Bottom 3 rankings for me  :


10. BCSL/SFAM (tie)



11. SC
12. ToT
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6391 on: July 04, 2015, 09:35:58 AM »
10.ToT



11. BC&SL




12. SC

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6392 on: July 04, 2015, 10:26:52 AM »
10. Systematic Chaos
11. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
12. When Day and Dream Unite

Easily.

Honestly, the only song of these I couldn't live without would be The Count of Tuscany.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6393 on: July 04, 2015, 03:55:24 PM »

12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

Opinions and all that but...... :rollin. DAFUQ MANG


I'm all for opinions but do you really dislike SDOIT more than WDADU ?

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6394 on: July 04, 2015, 03:56:39 PM »
10. Systematic Chaos
11. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
12. When Day and Dream Unite

Easily.

Honestly, the only song of these I couldn't live without would be The Count of Tuscany.

haha yeah. if you could somehow have the last 3 minutes of The Best Of Times in The Count Of Tuscany - that would be the only song from Black Clouds I would listen to.

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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6395 on: July 04, 2015, 08:39:42 PM »

12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

Opinions and all that but...... :rollin. DAFUQ MANG


I'm all for opinions but do you really dislike SDOIT more than WDADU ?

WDADU shouldn't even be in the last ones.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6396 on: July 05, 2015, 03:16:43 AM »
My controversial opinion: I dislike The Count of Tuscany, and Octavarium as an album (although the song is my favourite, the album is meh)
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6397 on: July 05, 2015, 04:13:50 AM »
10. Systematic Chaos
11. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
12. When Day and Dream Unite
Same here.
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Re: Your Controversial Opinions on DT
« Reply #6398 on: July 05, 2015, 08:38:38 AM »
It has been a sad couple of days for Systematic Chaos   :'(
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« Reply #6399 on: July 05, 2015, 09:17:15 AM »
Octavarium (the song) could have actually been great if it was 12 minutes long. And why did they leave that lisp or whatever it is in the end of James "screaming" Octavarium? It's like scratching a chalk board every time I hear it.

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« Reply #6400 on: July 05, 2015, 09:28:22 AM »
Octavarium (the song) could have actually been great if it was 12 minutes long. And why did they leave that lisp or whatever it is in the end of James "screaming" Octavarium? It's like scratching a chalk board every time I hear it.

I can't hear whatever it is you're talking about at the end of Intervals.
Also Octavarium is perfect as it is.

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« Reply #6401 on: July 05, 2015, 10:09:06 AM »
I have some opinions that I think are uncommon for the average DT fan.

My least favorite DT albums are I&W and SFAM. It's hard to put into words what it is about those albums that doesnt appeal to me so much. On I&W I really like Another Day, Surrounded and and Wait For Sleep. Other than that, I think it might be that that the rest of the songs are TOO proggy for me... There's too much wankery' for my taste, which is why I prefer albums like Awake and 8VM.  The same goes for SFAM, other then a few songs and sections.

And although I see ADToE as pretty much the same a!bium as I&W, I actually do like it a lot. Because it's a modern production its more metal than I&W. Plus it has Bridges In The Sky, whereas I&W does not. There's just something about I&W that is just very boring.

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« Reply #6402 on: July 05, 2015, 10:46:19 AM »
Octavarium (the song) could have actually been great if it was 12 minutes long. And why did they leave that lisp or whatever it is in the end of James "screaming" Octavarium? It's like scratching a chalk board every time I hear it.

I can't hear whatever it is you're talking about at the end of Intervals.
Also Octavarium is perfect as it is.

The last "Trapped inside thith Octavarium(worst scream he's done)".

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« Reply #6403 on: July 05, 2015, 09:11:45 PM »
Octavarium (the song) could have actually been great if it was 12 minutes long. And why did they leave that lisp or whatever it is in the end of James "screaming" Octavarium? It's like scratching a chalk board every time I hear it.

I can't hear whatever it is you're talking about at the end of Intervals.
Also Octavarium is perfect as it is. 

James thends to spell "th" plenty of times, lol, I don't see how is that an issue.
Just hear some of their pre-2000 albums and you'll be pretty surprised.
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« Reply #6404 on: July 05, 2015, 09:34:06 PM »
Where? Even if that's the case, it hasn't been a problem until this part because it's so obvious and bad. And he doesn't do it live.