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So I just recently discovered this great band after reading up on them and noticing they've had Nick D'Virgilio on their last few albums. I listened to a few tracks and then got their albums (they have a GREAT 6-disc bundle deal on their website) and now I am really looking forward to digesting their entire discography! Their recent stuff sounds great, especially their Peter Gabriel-esque vocalist, who sounds amazing without sounding too cheesy (like some Fish-era Marillion - oddly enough, Pete Trewavas guests on one of their albums).

This is great prog from the 90's-to-now, and I have NO idea how I have missed them and passed them by, especially with impressive albums with great acclaim, like The Underfall Yard and their recent release English Electric!

Has anyone else gotten into this band, or been fans from (nearly) the beginning of their career? What are your insights, your favorite albums and songs? I tried to see if there was already a thread on these guys here, but found none so I made this one! Discuss away and as I journey through their albums, I'll be sure to try and post my thoughts on them!

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Re: Big Big Train v. Get on the train!
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 06:21:49 PM »
Can't say I listen to them a ton, but The Underfall Yard is very good; have only spun their latest a couple of times so don't have a strong opinion on that.  But yeah, one of those bands that should get more recognition on a supposed prog-likers/lovers forum.

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 07:02:28 PM »
Got into these guys a couple of weeks ago because they were a recommendation on Amazon based on my previous purchases, and I love their last two albums to bits. English Electric Part 1 is a really good album, but The Underfall Yard is a masterpiece. Victorian Brickwork especially, with that glorious section that trades off between a lovely cornet solo and guitar leads that would make Steve Hackett weep. I was kind of shocked, given NDV's work with the band, that apparently these guys had flown under the DTF radar. Their albums are on Spotify if you want to give them a try; I can't imagine the average DTF poster not liking at least The Underfall Yard.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 08:15:58 PM »
I love them. I have 4 albums: The Underfall Yard, Difference Machine, Gathering Speed, and English Electric Part 1. English Electric is an excellent album and its in my top 10 of the year so far. After my first few listens I didn't think it was as good as The Underfall Yard but its grown on me a lot since then. Judas Unrepentant is probably my favorite but the whole album is worth listening to. Can't wait for Part 2!

Also, they have a Bandcamp with most of their albums available to stream (no commercials for those who don't have Spotify premium) and download.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 08:33:13 PM »
Oh, good, I'm not alone. :D Been playing the hell out of their albums on Spotify lately-except for Underfall Yard, I bought the MP3s off Amazon because I loved it that much.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 04:58:00 AM »
I just discovered them and I've been listening to English Electric almost non stop for the last three days  :biggrin:

These guys are seriously awesome, which album shall I listen to, now?
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Re: Big Big Train v. Get on the train!
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 07:02:00 AM »
The Underfall Yard.  I'm not as impressed by the earlier two, although like I said I'm no expert on the band.

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 10:28:23 AM »
Have only listened to their latest release, blew my mind... I saw that it was #1 on PA for 2012, I've gotta go backwards in their discography now.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 10:30:40 AM »
Have only listened to their latest release, blew my mind... I saw that it was #1 on PA for 2012, I've gotta go backwards in their discography now.

And not only first, but first with an exceptional score! It's still around 4.50, right?
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 01:41:35 PM »
4.49 now... it's now ranked 16 of all prog albums ever there...

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 01:45:22 PM »
4.49 now... it's now ranked 16 of all prog albums ever there...

Whoa... I just went to see and wow... it's up there with the greatest albums from Rush, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, VdGG and Jethro Tull!!! And it is one of two albums in their Top 20 of all time from the last 10 years, the other being 2012's Viljans Öga by Anglagard, which sits at number 20.

Amazing feat for BBT!

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 02:08:28 PM »
Guys, wasteland is talking about this so much and hyping me, it's unreal :biggrin:

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 02:14:42 PM »
The Underfall Yard.  I'm not as impressed by the earlier two, although like I said I'm no expert on the band.

Probably the next best thing to do. Start current and work your way backwards, but do not forget the 40-minute EP Far Skies Deep Time, which features the same line-up as TUY and EE1, and of which there are 2 tracklists, the second one has a re-recording of an older BBT track titled "Kingmaker"!

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2012, 10:55:17 AM »
Ok wow, finally got around to hearing a few tracks of English Electric. Album just ordered.

Thanks for the public awareness on this.  :tup

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 05:12:38 PM »
Ok wow, finally got around to hearing a few tracks of English Electric. Album just ordered.

Thanks for the public awareness on this.  :tup

You're welcome! I'm surprised this band hasn't had a great following, but I can understand their slow-ascent into the public eye with Nick D'Virgilio being in the band for the last few years.

I've been listening to Far Skies Deep Time, a 40-minute EP with 5 tracks which are all spectacular. They later re-released the EP with a new opening track, "Kingmaker", a re-recording of an older tune from their early days. I've put that track in front of the rest of the original EP tracklist and it makes for an amazing 51 minute "album" made by the same line-up that did The Underfall Yard and would do English Electric.

For me, this band (so far, and at least with their last few releases) is like a modern-day Genesis...not in the sense that they're also British, or have a vocalist who sounds remarkably like Peter Gabriel (and who also happens to play flute), but their style and sense of arrangement is very Genesis-like. Their newer releases all sound like albums that Genesis COULD have made in their 5-man configuration had they stuck around through the 90's and 00's.

They also sound like Genesis without sounding like dated 80's Neo-Prog (like Fish-Era Marillion and early IQ). They have a fresh sound without trying to sound too much like Genesis or other older prog bands.

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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012, 02:14:06 PM »
English Electric is going to end up being one of my favorite albums of all time.

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 03:27:12 PM »
English Electric is going to end up being one of my favorite albums of all time.

It is pretty good, although I'm trying not to bog myself down on it too much as I explore their back catalog. I've been really liking FSDP and TUY, as well as TDM and GS. I think I'll revisit EE1 in the coming days, but it's got me REALLY excited for Part 2 and their following release Station Masters.

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2012, 03:41:04 PM »
English Electric is going to end up being one of my favorite albums of all time.

It is pretty good, although I'm trying not to bog myself down on it too much as I explore their back catalog. I've been really liking FSDP and TUY, as well as TDM and GS. I think I'll revisit EE1 in the coming days, but it's got me REALLY excited for Part 2 and their following release Station Masters.

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I knew about Part 2 but I haven't heard anything about Station Masters. Just looked it up and it appears to be a double disc of b-sides, outtakes, and re-worked old songs. Sounds great!

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2012, 10:12:28 PM »
Not a fan. Sorry.

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2012, 05:41:46 AM »
English Electric 1 is absolutely incredible, no doubt about that.  :metal

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2012, 06:40:32 AM »
I've been discovering The Underfall Yard for the last week. Needless to say, it's another incredible album. How come these guys aren't as famous in the prog scene as many other great new bands like Haken are? :)
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2012, 10:27:35 AM »
I've been discovering The Underfall Yard for the last week. Needless to say, it's another incredible album. How come these guys aren't as famous in the prog scene as many other great new bands like Haken are? :)

I guess that depends on who you ask, like for instance, I have NO IDEA who "Haken" are... I thought Haken was the maker of Jordan Rudess' Continuum keyboard? :lol

Anyways, TUY is a great album! It's right up there with EE1 and FSDT for me. It's unusual that I find a band's latest material to be their greatest, but it's true. Everything from TUY onward is just magic, but I also really love The Difference Machine and Gathering Speed, the two albums with Sean Filkins.

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2012, 10:41:51 AM »
I've been discovering The Underfall Yard for the last week. Needless to say, it's another incredible album. How come these guys aren't as famous in the prog scene as many other great new bands like Haken are? :)

I guess that depends on who you ask, like for instance, I have NO IDEA who "Haken" are... I thought Haken was the maker of Jordan Rudess' Continuum keyboard? :lol

Anyways, TUY is a great album! It's right up there with EE1 and FSDT for me. It's unusual that I find a band's latest material to be their greatest, but it's true. Everything from TUY onward is just magic, but I also really love The Difference Machine and Gathering Speed, the two albums with Sean Filkins.

-Marc.

Yes, Haken isn't just a cool instrument, it's much, much more :)

Big2Trainwise, what does FSDT stand for? Whatever it is I havn't listened to it yet...
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2012, 10:49:29 AM »
I've been discovering The Underfall Yard for the last week. Needless to say, it's another incredible album. How come these guys aren't as famous in the prog scene as many other great new bands like Haken are? :)

I guess that depends on who you ask, like for instance, I have NO IDEA who "Haken" are... I thought Haken was the maker of Jordan Rudess' Continuum keyboard? :lol

Anyways, TUY is a great album! It's right up there with EE1 and FSDT for me. It's unusual that I find a band's latest material to be their greatest, but it's true. Everything from TUY onward is just magic, but I also really love The Difference Machine and Gathering Speed, the two albums with Sean Filkins.

-Marc.

Yes, Haken isn't just a cool instrument, it's much, much more :)

Big2Trainwise, what does FSDT stand for? Whatever it is I havn't listened to it yet...

FSDT is Far Skies Deep Time, an EP that was released after The Underfall Yard and has the same line-up as that album and English Electric. It's made up of 5 tracks, and runs about 40 minutes long, but if you do what I did and add the changed-first-track-for-2nd-release of the EP, and toss in "Kingmaker" at the beginning of it, it becomes an amazing 6-track album at over 50 minutes long!

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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2012, 08:55:15 PM »
Just saw this on the band's Facebook. Release date March 4, 2013.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/262786_10151162476754397_1475273948_n.jpg

Edit: Can't get the picture to show up, so here's the link to the album cover.

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2012, 03:06:12 AM »
I'm giving English Electric Part One a first spin now, sounds really promising.

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2012, 03:12:15 AM »
Just saw this on the band's Facebook. Release date March 4, 2013.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/262786_10151162476754397_1475273948_n.jpg

Edit: Can't get the picture to show up, so here's the link to the album cover.

*excited*

I'm giving English Electric Part One a first spin now, sounds really promising.

Did you get to Judas already? If that does't hook you up you are not cut for this band, I'm afraid  :D
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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2012, 03:13:43 AM »
I'm giving English Electric Part One a first spin now, sounds really promising.

Did you get to Judas already? If that does't hook you up you are not cut for this band, I'm afraid  :D

I'm on that very track right now, really digging it :tup

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2012, 03:28:34 AM »
I'm giving English Electric Part One a first spin now, sounds really promising.

Did you get to Judas already? If that does't hook you up you are not cut for this band, I'm afraid  :D

I'm on that very track right now, really digging it :tup

Read the lyrics if you havn't yet! They are among the best I could ever imagine. It's not every day that a band is able to throw in stuff like "anachronism, x-rayed and Rembrandt" and making it sound epic as if we were listening to the The Fall Of Gondolin made song!  :)
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2013, 02:29:54 AM »
http://bigbigtrain.com/main/shop/ee2

You can now pre-order English Electric (Part 2)!!!

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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2013, 03:16:20 AM »
http://bigbigtrain.com/main/shop/ee2

You can now pre-order English Electric (Part 2)!!!

-Marc.

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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2013, 07:05:07 AM »
I've recently started spinning The Underfall Yard more and more frequently, and I can really say that the album is absolutely glorious, not at all inferior to EE1! The title track (....) and Victorian Brickwork are just brilliant composition, brilliant!

This band deserves more credit.
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2013, 07:28:24 AM »
I've recently started spinning The Underfall Yard more and more frequently, and I can really say that the album is absolutely glorious, not at all inferior to EE1! The title track (....) and Victorian Brickwork are just brilliant composition, brilliant!

This band deserves more credit.

My thoughts exactly, and their high marks (for last year's English Electric Part One) in the recently published DPRPoll for 2012 will undoubtedly bring the band to the attention to many proggers who have passed them by over the years, especially with said album having recently been released on vinyl and Part Two coming out in less than a month, it'll be a big year for BBT and its fans!

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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2013, 06:39:23 PM »
Man English Electric is so good, I mean like top 10 for me currently. Can't wait for EE2.

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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2013, 06:41:58 PM »
EE2 is now available to download or stream!! Just bought it and I'm going to listen to it soon!

http://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/