Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[King Postwhore]

I did dribble a little.

[The King in Crimson]

I did dribble a little.

A little? I might need to replace all of my pants.

[ytserush]

I got to see Marillion play Misplaced Childhood live opening up for Rush on the Power Windows tour.  Hard to beat that.

You don't say....

[ytserush]

Tim I would say you also didn't connect to the newer music which affected how you enjoyed the show.

I don't know. I think Hold Your Fire blows, but that might've been the best Rush show I ever saw.

T4E tour was killer every show I saw.

That's been the case on every tour since Test For Echo except this one.
Things really didn't start to hum this time until late June and it really picked up near the end.

[King Postwhore]

I got to see Marillion play Misplaced Childhood live opening up for Rush on the Power Windows tour.  Hard to beat that.

You don't say....

I do.

Every time I can.

[ytserush]

I got to see Marillion play Misplaced Childhood live opening up for Rush on the Power Windows tour.  Hard to beat that.

You don't say....

I do.

Every time I can.

I'll never forget March 31 and April 1, 1986 myself.

[Nick]

You can both go suck my starman.

[King Postwhore]

I think you gave it backwards Nick.

[jammindude]

Starman my suck? 

[King Postwhore]

Starman my suck? 

No, he can suck...........

[Zydar]

Neil talks retirement in a new Drumhead Magazine interview.

https://news.cygnus-x1.net/2015/12/neil-peart-talks-retirement-in-new.html

[Lowdz]

Ultimate guitar are reporting that NP has retired. They aren't exactly a great reliable source but it seems to be coming.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/rush_drummer_neil_peart_i_am_retiring_from_music.html

[TempusVox]

Yeah, I sent a text to Get about this on Saturday. His response was, "That's what he's telling everyone now apparently, so I guess we won't be writing new after the first of the year. I haven't spoken to him in a couple of weeks, so who knows? As you know, he's been saying he's retiring from touring, so that's not new."

[RoeDent]

If this is the end, then Clockwork Angels is one hell of a way to bow out. They have a firm place in the pantheon of rock music.

[jjrock88]

He's earned it.

[The Letter M]

If Neil wants to retire, let the man retire. He's definitely earned it after 40+ years with one of the hardest working rocks bands in the business. His history, skill, discography and body of work all speak for itself, and if Rush's career ends with Clockwork Angels, then it's definitely an amazing way to end the band's career.

Neil deserves a nice quiet retirement from here on out, so if there's no more new Rush, then I'm okay with it. I'd rather them go out on top as they have done with CA, the CA Tour, and the R40 Tour, rather than release mediocre mid-tempo "prog-lite" soft rock and play live shows with incredibly lowered tempos.

Good for Neil and I wish him all the best in his retirement!

-Marc.

[Nel]

...Can we get a second Geddy Lee solo album then? I saw in a recent AV Club interview that he was open to doing another one sometime.

[TAC]

, rather than release mediocre mid-tempo "prog-lite" soft rock
 

Haven't they been doing that since 1988?

[The Letter M]

, rather than release mediocre mid-tempo "prog-lite" soft rock
 

Haven't they been doing that since 1988?

Comparatively, not really. Songs like Animate, Driven, One Little Victory, and Headlong Flight are definitely not slow and lite.

Go spin Yes' last album and then listen to Clockwork Angels and tell me which one you'd rather have to end a band's career.

-Marc.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

The Garden would be an amazing swan song to their career as a band. I have no qualms about them calling it quits at this point.

, rather than release mediocre mid-tempo "prog-lite" soft rock
 

Haven't they been doing that since 1988?

Someone didn't listen to the last Yes album.

[TAC]

Clockwork Angels is outstanding no doubt. Why the hell did it take so long? It's like they already knew it was coming to an end. The band just feels focused on this effort as opposed to throwing shit together as they had been doing since Roll The Bones. (I do like Counterparts!). But to me, everything they had done since is just below their writing and playing skills. Until CA that is.

[theanalogkid7]

, rather than release mediocre mid-tempo "prog-lite" soft rock
 

Haven't they been doing that since 1988?

Comparatively, not really. Songs like Animate, Driven, One Little Victory, and Headlong Flight are definitely not slow and lite.

Go spin Yes' last album and then listen to Clockwork Angels and tell me which one you'd rather have to end a band's career.

-Marc.

I couldn't agree more.  CA, while not the best Rush album, is a great end to their studio career, should this be it.

[Jamesman42]

The Garden would be an amazing swan song to their career as a band. I have no qualms about them calling it quits at this point.

Oh wow...yeah that makes the song chilling

[TempusVox]

Well.. the plan was to start on new material after the first of the year. He and Alex are anxious to start writing new stuff then. They are not averse to recording without touring if that lets them stay creating.  If NP decides no way, then my guess is they don't move ahead without him, but Ged is ready to create after the holidays, whatever that looks like. But they want to make music together. 

[The Letter M]

Clockwork Angels is outstanding no doubt. Why the hell did it take so long? It's like they already knew it was coming to an end. The band just feels focused on this effort as opposed to throwing shit together as they had been doing since Roll The Bones. (I do like Counterparts!). But to me, everything they had done since is just below their writing and playing skills. Until CA that is.

Granted, I'll be the first to say that HYF, RTB, and TFE were all "par for the course" when it came to Rush, with a few gems here and there on those three albums, but Presto, CP, and the last three are all pretty good to great albums for me (less so for Presto). I thoroughly enjoy S&A, and I have a soft spot for VT, while CA is amazing in its own right. So for me, the band has done fairly well in the latter half of its career.

Were they pumping out music as good as 2112-POW? No, but you can't expect them all to be winners. Every rock band from the 70's that continued to produce material through the 80's and 90's could never match that youthfulness that their older music was birthed from. Their writing and playing from back then was certainly different, and I will say that Rush definitely matured in many ways when it came to thsoe aspects of their music. Was it all good? No. Was it all likable? Possibly, depending on who you are. But given what they DID release, they're no slouches when it came to writing really good music, because when it was good, it tended to be great, especially for a band that was together for so long! I am especially thankful they even continued for as long as they did because the band could have ended over fifteen years ago, but they didn't and with VT, they came back and added a lot to their already great career.

-Marc.

[King Postwhore]

Clockwork Angels is outstanding no doubt. Why the hell did it take so long? It's like they already knew it was coming to an end. The band just feels focused on this effort as opposed to throwing shit together as they had been doing since Roll The Bones. (I do like Counterparts!). But to me, everything they had done since is just below their writing and playing skills. Until CA that is.

You sound like the 2112 fans who hated PW & MP.   

Any band that last 4 decades will have this issue by fans. 

[devieira73]

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Rush AND Neil, it's my second favourite band, but at this point, I wish that Ged and Alex to carry on, forming a new band.

[KevShmev]

Sad day.  We all knew it was coming, and it was definitely time, but still a sad day.  It is officially over.

  to rock's greatest drummer, one of rock's best lyricists, and to the best band ever.

[Kotowboy]

Well.. the plan was to start on new material after the first of the year. He and Alex are anxious to start writing new stuff then. They are not averse to recording without touring if that lets them stay creating.  If NP decides no way, then my guess is they don't move ahead without him, but Ged is ready to create after the holidays, whatever that looks like. But they want to make music together.

Alex Lifeson, Geddy Lee. Mike Portnoy.

[TAC]

Sad day.  We all knew it was coming, and it was definitely time, but still a sad day.  It is officially over.

  to rock's greatest drummer, one of rock's best lyricists, and to the best band ever.

Definitely!

Well.. the plan was to start on new material after the first of the year. He and Alex are anxious to start writing new stuff then. They are not averse to recording without touring if that lets them stay creating.  If NP decides no way, then my guess is they don't move ahead without him, but Ged is ready to create after the holidays, whatever that looks like. But they want to make music together.

Alex Lifeson, Geddy Lee. Mike Portnoy.

Was the first thing I thought of.

[TL]

It's definitely sad if we're really at the end, but at least Clockwork Angels is a heck of a finale.

I'd love for them to keep going into the studio every now and then, but I certainly respect Neil's decision if he really is calling it quits entirely. The man has more than earned it.

[King Postwhore]

I Don't See Alex and Geddy playing together without Neil.  They may guest on each other's music but not form a band.  Imo.

[devieira73]

I Don't See Alex and Geddy playing together without Neil.  They may guest on each other's music but not form a band.  Imo.

Maybe this is true, because they intend to preserve Rush 's legacy,  but it's also a shame,  because they have still much to offer together (and it seems that they have this desire too).

[jammindude]

I still say he enters the studio for one last album.     Possibly followed by a one week residency at MSG.   No tour obviously, and probably not a show either, but I'm certain there will be one last album.

[T-ski]

If this is indeed 100% true, part of me just died.