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Metal = Satan?
« on: July 09, 2012, 09:12:30 PM »
just came across this cause some of the bands in it are sharing it on facebook


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MjcSL5218


i thought it was kinda obvious that most bands with satanic lyrics are in it for the shock factor, yet some people i guess think it's a legitimate threat. (oh no its gonna lead our kids to satan!) i do agree that most of these bands are terrible, but i love the faceless and the 'possessed by a demon' while drumming is hilarious.

i just don't understand how people can believe this

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Re: Metal = Satan?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2012, 09:14:36 PM »
I was once listening to Dimmu Borgir and became possessed by Satan. I woke up 7 days later with Anthony Hopkins standing over my sweat drenched body with a cross screaming at me in Latin. Creepy stuff.

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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2012, 09:18:14 PM »
i think it's funny how off the rocker some people could get. go anywhere from the faceless to bon jovi.

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2012, 09:20:07 PM »
I was once listening to Dimmu Borgir and became possessed by Satan. I woke up 7 days later with Anthony Hopkins standing over my sweat drenched body with a cross screaming at me in Latin. Creepy stuff.

Same thing happened to me, except that instead of Anthony Hopkins, I only got Danny Devito.

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2012, 09:22:40 PM »
I was laughing until I saw the video of the possessed drummer at 4:30.  Scary stuff, man.  I immediately deleted all the metal off my hard drive and grew a religion beard.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2012, 09:28:49 PM »
here's the video of the drummer who is "CLEARLY" possessed

http://youtu.be/6jLXxqj8pso?t=1m34s

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 09:34:41 PM »
This scares me that people actually go this far to slander Metal.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2012, 09:35:39 PM »
I'm legitimately curious as to whether or not these people who uploaded the video are serious or not.  :lol
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2012, 09:37:13 PM »
I'm legitimately curious as to whether or not these people who uploaded the video are serious or not.  :lol

I don't know, it seems like it stinks of seriousness.
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2012, 09:42:01 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2012, 09:43:23 PM »
Was not aware John Lennon was into satanic black metal. Are those some Beatles demos I am not aware of? xD

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 09:46:33 PM »
some funny quotes on facebook from the bands involved
"truly honored to be apart of this. apparently my friends and i are all satanists." - marc from veil of maya
"seems legit" - the faceless
"Apparently if you can play skillfully with your eyes closed than YOU ARE UNDER SATANIC CONTROL....makes sense..." - michael keene from the faceless


i guess all you can do is laugh about it. you can't reason with people that far off the deep end

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 10:04:47 PM »
I think the biggest argument against them being satanic is that if a dimwit like the video creator can spot them, Satan can hardly be called the Great Deceiver. If I had to put my money on a single person, it would be Pat Robertson.

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 11:08:58 PM »
Props to her. I don't think Fred Phelps could have made a more facepalm-worthy video if he tried. Also, it's pretty ironic how not one of those bands was genuinely satanic.
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2012, 12:59:36 AM »
here's the video of the drummer who is "CLEARLY" possessed

http://youtu.be/6jLXxqj8pso?t=1m34s

That sounded really nice. I now have a new band to check out :)
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2012, 07:20:27 AM »
here's the video of the drummer who is "CLEARLY" possessed

http://youtu.be/6jLXxqj8pso?t=1m34s
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Re: Metal = Satan?
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 09:14:35 AM »
satan enjoys triggered bass drums so the crowd can hear

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2012, 09:30:38 AM »
This is the most nonserious thread I've ever seen here. I forgot I was in P&R for a second there.

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2012, 09:40:18 AM »
I was once listening to Dimmu Borgir and became possessed by Satan. I woke up 7 days later with Anthony Hopkins standing over my sweat drenched body with a cross screaming at me in Latin. Creepy stuff.

Horrible movie but, I like the reference.

And to anyone that's wondering if the people that made the video are serious, I was raised in a baptist church before I decided to get all jewey on them and I can attest that yes indeed, they do believe this bullshit.
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2012, 09:48:04 AM »
I was once listening to Dimmu Borgir and became possessed by Satan. I woke up 7 days later with Anthony Hopkins standing over my sweat drenched body with a cross screaming at me in Latin. Creepy stuff.

Horrible movie but, I like the reference.

And to anyone that's wondering if the people that made the video are serious, I was raised in a baptist church before I decided to get all jewey on them and I can attest that yes indeed, they do believe this bullshit.

to try and steer this to more religious ground, is it all metal? or just the ones with 'evil' lyrics? is rap also demonic? is any type of music that doesn't exactly follow the bible's words against god?

i made the thread because i am actually curious as to why this is believed. the person who made this video is obviously a little too brainwashed

"now is the time to believe in yourself" = against jesus ? ?

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2012, 10:12:59 AM »
Most of the people here weren't around for the early 80's, when that mentality was rampant.  KISS certainly got people pretty spooked during the 70's.  Then you had WASP, Twisted Sister and Motley Crue who were just looking to scare the shit out of old people, and it got even worse.  Strangely, Iron Maiden topped the list of goat-people back then. The fact that they'd sing NotB so proudly made them easy targets.  Honestly, I kind of miss that mentality, back when rock was actually threatening.  Music that used to prompt tons of bible thumpers to go out and picket concerts gets played as muzak at the local grocery store now. 

As for the religious aspect of it, during my bid at Christian maniac school, they harped on that pretty hard.  Any lyric that could be even remotely construed as evil (Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try) got you into the record burning category.  If there wasn't anything actually questionable in your lyrics, then your problem was that you weren't glorifying God like you were supposed to.  They threw around a horribly out of context bit of Revelations to slam anything secular but otherwise unobjectionable.  Lastly, even if you wrote pro-Jesus lyrics, Stryper was often mentioned, you were still evil because you were using music to convey your message that was far too suggestive and sexualized.  Apparently loud, bass heavy music naturally makes young girls do naughty things, although I could never ascertain why that was considered a bad thing.  Those people were just weird like that.

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2012, 10:26:44 AM »
I was once listening to Dimmu Borgir and became possessed by Satan. I woke up 7 days later with Anthony Hopkins standing over my sweat drenched body with a cross screaming at me in Latin. Creepy stuff.

Same thing happened to me, except that instead of Anthony Hopkins, I only got Danny Devito.


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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2012, 12:17:55 PM »
Most of the people here weren't around for the early 80's, when that mentality was rampant.  KISS certainly got people pretty spooked during the 70's.  Then you had WASP, Twisted Sister and Motley Crue who were just looking to scare the shit out of old people, and it got even worse.  Strangely, Iron Maiden topped the list of goat-people back then. The fact that they'd sing NotB so proudly made them easy targets.  Honestly, I kind of miss that mentality, back when rock was actually threatening.  Music that used to prompt tons of bible thumpers to go out and picket concerts gets played as muzak at the local grocery store now. 

As for the religious aspect of it, during my bid at Christian maniac school, they harped on that pretty hard.  Any lyric that could be even remotely construed as evil (Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try) got you into the record burning category.  If there wasn't anything actually questionable in your lyrics, then your problem was that you weren't glorifying God like you were supposed to.  They threw around a horribly out of context bit of Revelations to slam anything secular but otherwise unobjectionable.  Lastly, even if you wrote pro-Jesus lyrics, Stryper was often mentioned, you were still evil because you were using music to convey your message that was far too suggestive and sexualized.  Apparently loud, bass heavy music naturally makes young girls do naughty things, although I could never ascertain why that was considered a bad thing.  Those people were just weird like that.

Agreed, I do miss being "dangerous" as a 16 year old pimple faced dork in my 3/4 long sleeved Maiden shirt, oh the heads we used to turn, good times.

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2012, 12:34:29 PM »
Most of the people here weren't around for the early 80's, when that mentality was rampant.  KISS certainly got people pretty spooked during the 70's.  Then you had WASP, Twisted Sister and Motley Crue who were just looking to scare the shit out of old people, and it got even worse.  Strangely, Iron Maiden topped the list of goat-people back then. The fact that they'd sing NotB so proudly made them easy targets.  Honestly, I kind of miss that mentality, back when rock was actually threatening.  Music that used to prompt tons of bible thumpers to go out and picket concerts gets played as muzak at the local grocery store now. 

As for the religious aspect of it, during my bid at Christian maniac school, they harped on that pretty hard.  Any lyric that could be even remotely construed as evil (Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try) got you into the record burning category.  If there wasn't anything actually questionable in your lyrics, then your problem was that you weren't glorifying God like you were supposed to.  They threw around a horribly out of context bit of Revelations to slam anything secular but otherwise unobjectionable.  Lastly, even if you wrote pro-Jesus lyrics, Stryper was often mentioned, you were still evil because you were using music to convey your message that was far too suggestive and sexualized.  Apparently loud, bass heavy music naturally makes young girls do naughty things, although I could never ascertain why that was considered a bad thing.  Those people were just weird like that.

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Just as a funny side point...didn't that idea in Stryper's case turn out to be true?   I thought I heard a "reveal all/tell all" a few years back where the guys from Stryper confessed to keeping "groupies" *EVERY BIT* as much as Motley Crue in their heyday.    Hmmm....maybe there's something to that "loud, bass heavy music"....   

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2012, 01:56:42 PM »
Most of the people here weren't around for the early 80's, when that mentality was rampant.  KISS certainly got people pretty spooked during the 70's.  Then you had WASP, Twisted Sister and Motley Crue who were just looking to scare the shit out of old people, and it got even worse.  Strangely, Iron Maiden topped the list of goat-people back then. The fact that they'd sing NotB so proudly made them easy targets.  Honestly, I kind of miss that mentality, back when rock was actually threatening.  Music that used to prompt tons of bible thumpers to go out and picket concerts gets played as muzak at the local grocery store now. 

As for the religious aspect of it, during my bid at Christian maniac school, they harped on that pretty hard.  Any lyric that could be even remotely construed as evil (Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try) got you into the record burning category.  If there wasn't anything actually questionable in your lyrics, then your problem was that you weren't glorifying God like you were supposed to.  They threw around a horribly out of context bit of Revelations to slam anything secular but otherwise unobjectionable.  Lastly, even if you wrote pro-Jesus lyrics, Stryper was often mentioned, you were still evil because you were using music to convey your message that was far too suggestive and sexualized.  Apparently loud, bass heavy music naturally makes young girls do naughty things, although I could never ascertain why that was considered a bad thing.  Those people were just weird like that.


This.  And they always told the story of the missionaries in Africa whose daughter snuck a rock album along on the trip.  When she played it, all the witch doctors from the various tribes were summoned out of the jungle to the missionary camp, by THE BEAT.  Sheesh...
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2012, 02:03:22 PM »
I accidentally caught the Adam Sandler movie "Little Nicky" one time, and Sandler plays Nicky, the youngest of Satan's three sons.  Believe me, that's not the stupidest thing in the movie.  Anyway, he ends up on Earth trying to round up an army or something, and these two hippies seemed to worship him and were helping him out a lot and being really cool.  Then someone pointed out to me that they're not hippies; they're metalheads.  Okay, so both stereotypes have long hair, so what?  It had to be pointed out to me that they're metalheads, therefore them being able to personally help out the son of Satan was like a dream come true for them, because metalheads worship Satan, get it?

Holy shit.  Yeah, I'd heard that before, but it's always been so completely stupid to me that I literally gave it no thought, and I didn't make the connection when apparently it was supposed to be obvious and even something of a plot point.

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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2012, 10:11:21 PM »
I was once listening to Dimmu Borgir and became possessed by Satan. I woke up 7 days later with Anthony Hopkins standing over my sweat drenched body with a cross screaming at me in Latin. Creepy stuff.

Horrible movie but, I like the reference.

And to anyone that's wondering if the people that made the video are serious, I was raised in a baptist church before I decided to get all jewey on them and I can attest that yes indeed, they do believe this bullshit.

to try and steer this to more religious ground, is it all metal? or just the ones with 'evil' lyrics? is rap also demonic? is any type of music that doesn't exactly follow the bible's words against god?

i made the thread because i am actually curious as to why this is believed. the person who made this video is obviously a little too brainwashed

"now is the time to believe in yourself" = against jesus ? ?

EB pretty much summed it up.

When I was 15, I went on a trip to Arlington, Texas for something called "The World Baptist Youth Conference" at a bible college down there (I'm from Ohio). Me and another kid were selected to be the representatives for our church's youth group. We were accompanied by our assistant pastor and the other kid's dad. This was right around the time that I was discovering bands like Iron Maiden. We went to a near-by mall to do some shopping and I naturally hit the record store. I found a cassette single with some additional live tracks from the Live After Death album and bought it. When we got back to the dorms that we were staying at the assistant pastor found my music stash and he about hit the roof. He confiscated my music and staged an intervention. Even though I had been "saved", the fact that I bought this music put my mortal soul in danger ect. ect... blah blah blah...

About 2 or 3 weeks after we got back from the conference they talked the other kid into doing a presentation to the youth group. He posted a bunch of pictures of bands on a poster board and quoted some lyrics and got into the backward masking crap. It was the standard bullshit about how a person would hear some garbled lyrics backwards with a satanic message in them and the next thing you know you're murdering your parents and raping your neighbor's dog. I was smart enough at the time to know that it was complete bullshit and it was the first step that led me to question christianity as a religion. If they were willing to lie to me about music, what else were they willing to lie to me about blah blah blah...

This was also pretty close to the time that Judas Priest were put on trial for being accused of backward messages in one of their songs leading to the suicide of a couple of kids and Geraldo Rivera had a tv special about satanism where he tried to tie in metal. The guys on here that are my age will remember those pretty well.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2012, 03:01:57 AM »
^ I remember all that shit, good times!

I also remember my mother getting all bent out of shape to the lyrics for Triumph's Never Surrender album (this was close to the time with all of the PMRC stuff).  The stupid thing was that she wasn't a card-carrying member of The Gawd Squad at that time, never was.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2012, 10:25:49 AM »
to try and steer this to more religious ground, is it all metal? or just the ones with 'evil' lyrics? is rap also demonic? is any type of music that doesn't exactly follow the bible's words against god?

i made the thread because i am actually curious as to why this is believed. the person who made this video is obviously a little too brainwashed

"now is the time to believe in yourself" = against jesus ? ?
My experience with this mentality was that it had more to do with the music itself than the actual lyrics.  They're fond of harping on the message of the lyrics and it's spirituality or immorality as a means of spooking people, but in the end, they're just old people and they don't like music they don't understand; it makes them uncomfortable.  This very thing was going on in the 20's when all that negro music was turning people to drugs and corrupting our precious white women into debauchery.  Anything that seems contrary to traditional values, be it Gene Krupa's stoner ass, or Dee Snider wearing bad makeup, has to be discouraged.  If it's young people you're trying to swing, then nonsense about satanic bogeymen is one way to do it. 

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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2012, 11:18:53 AM »
I would have to agree with EB.   
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2012, 11:23:59 AM »
I remember that Geraldo special, he even did a shot in front of a star pained on a wall with 2112 under it, saying that the metal band Rush promoted satanic symbolism by using the pentagram. Way to do your research bud. :facepalm:
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2012, 12:36:41 PM »
I remember that Geraldo special, he even did a shot in front of a star pained on a wall with 2112 under it, saying that the metal band Rush promoted satanic symbolism by using the pentagram. Way to do your research bud. :facepalm:

The part that I remember the most is Ozzy sitting there on a tv monitor looking flabbergasted. Ofcourse, seeing him with a puzzled look on his face seems like old hat these days.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2012, 12:47:11 PM »
I remember that Geraldo special, he even did a shot in front of a star pained on a wall with 2112 under it, saying that the metal band Rush promoted satanic symbolism by using the pentagram. Way to do your research bud. :facepalm:

The part that I remember the most is Ozzy sitting there on a tv monitor looking flabbergasted. Ofcourse, seeing him with a puzzled look on his face seems like old hat these days.


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