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Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« on: July 02, 2012, 07:51:47 PM »
Aside from the songs on Black Clouds and ADTOE which obviously haven't been on DVDs yet, what songs from the DT discography are you thinking really need a solid DVD release?

I'll work backwards:

These Walls: One of my favorite songs from Octavarium, and unfortunately I think the only performance of it is on that Romavarium fanclub DVD.

Blind Faith: The performance on CiM is just really lackluster for a number of reasons. I'd like to see this professionally done since it's one of Dream Theater's best songs.

The Glass Prison: The Bucharest version is really good, but obviously the audio and video could be a lot better.

Lines in the Sand: Same with Blind Faith, really. The CiM performances just don't cut it.

Caught in a Web: The live performances of this song have been killer lately, and as far as I know the song is only on one of the Bootleg DVDs.

Pull Me Under: The Live in Tokyo version is really good, but considering how it's the bands biggest hit and all it's a surprise a more professional version hasn't been released. Budokan's Pull Me Under has tons of problems, ranging from James' voice sounding thin and flat to the new "warped" arrangement that doesn't really work IMO.

So if these songs appear on the new DVD with my new favorites, like BITS, BTS, and TCoT, I'll be pretty happy.

Honestly, I don't really care to see any Systematic Chaos tunes. Not many of the performances of them on CiM are very good, but neither are the songs IMO. I'm guessing TDEN at least will make the cut, which I'm OK with. It's a fun song.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 07:57:09 PM »
The Glass Prison
Blind Faith
Misunderstood
The Great Debate (High quality version)
Lines in the Sand
Space-Dye Vest (wait what?)
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 07:59:27 PM »
The Glass Prison
6:00
The Great Debate
These Walls
Caught In A Web
Hell's Kitchen (yep, you read right)
Lines In The Sand
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 08:07:48 PM »
Can't you find The Glass Prison on the Gigantour DVD?
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 08:10:55 PM »
Scarred. Once In A Livetime was abbreviated (and doesn't count as a DVD release). Chaos In Motion is terrible.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 08:12:57 PM »
Quote from: theseoafs on July 02, 2012, 08:07:48 PM
Can't you find The Glass Prison on the Gigantour DVD?

I figured he meant actual Dream Theater DVDs.

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Scarred. Once In A Livetime was abbreviated (and doesn't count as a DVD release). Chaos In Motion is terrible.

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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 09:43:30 PM »
These Walls
Scarred
Lines in the Sand
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 09:55:17 PM »
The Killing Hand
Metropolis (band-only, Score was the only DVD release of it and it had orchestra, was still awesome though)
Caught in a Web
The Mirror (full song, only Puppies on Acid was released)
Hell's Kitchen
The Glass Prison
Honor Thy Father (only song on TOT without a DVD release!!)
These Walls
Repentance (needs to be documented!! one of my #1 DT songs)

From BCSL, I would really want to see Wither, The Shattered Fortress and The Count recorded. With ADTOE, I would be happy with any or all songs, but there at least needs to be OTBOA, BITS, and BAI. Any other selection is fine since I love every song.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 01:58:31 AM »
Quote from: theseoafs on July 02, 2012, 08:07:48 PM
Can't you find The Glass Prison on the Gigantour DVD?

Yes, but it's not the best recording or performance. It's my favourite DT song, and I find that particular performance very underwhelming.

Here are the songs I'd really love to see get some DVD lovin'-
ANTR
TCOT
These Walls
TGP
Blind Faith
Misunderstood

Unfortunately a lot of these aren't likely for the upcoming DVD, but it will still rock!
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 02:05:24 AM »
I'm liking everything you people put up so far. Especially SDV. What I'd like for a DVD performance of that song would be to play it as it is, almost note for note, samples and all, but go crazy on the visuals. Well, not really *crazy*, but have some really cool lights, some nice animation on those monitors, maybe do some stuff like... like Jordan's keys glowing in different shades of blue as he plays or something like that.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2012, 02:22:29 AM »
Quote from: Jamariquay on July 02, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
Scarred. Once In A Livetime was abbreviated (and doesn't count as a DVD release). Chaos In Motion is terrible.

I'd agree, if I hadn't given up on the possibility that Scarred can be very good live. It's been underwhelming on every single live release (unofficial or not) so far, so I'm thinking it's just not a great live song. So honestly I'll take another song which can be done will over yet another Scarred performance that just isn't quite right.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 02:53:02 AM »
Quote from: Siberian Khatru on July 03, 2012, 02:22:29 AM
I'd agree, if I hadn't given up on the possibility that Scarred can be very good live. It's been underwhelming on every single live release (unofficial or not) so far, so I'm thinking it's just not a great live song. So honestly I'll take another song which can be done will over yet another Scarred performance that just isn't quite right.
I like the Bucharest version of Scarred, but as a Scarred for life-er, I'd like to hear more of it!

Edit: There's a Nightingale song called Scarred For Life. Aside from Scarred itself, that should really be our anthem :D
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 05:18:45 AM »
I'd love to have Wither on a DVD, and a version of Disappear that ISN'T. FUCKING. RUSHED!!!

Also, what you all said sounds good.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 05:34:43 AM »
Quote from: Scorpion on July 03, 2012, 05:18:45 AM
...and a version of Disappear that ISN'T. FUCKING. RUSHED!!!...
What's wrong with Budokan version?
BTW, I would like 6:00, Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Learning to Live, A Fortune in Lies, Misunderstood, Lines in the Sand, The Count of Tuscany and anything from ADTOE.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 06:01:39 AM »
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Quote from: Scorpion on July 03, 2012, 05:18:45 AM
...and a version of Disappear that ISN'T. FUCKING. RUSHED!!!...
What's wrong with Budokan version?

It's too fast, methinks, which kinda kill the mood.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2012, 06:37:38 AM »
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...and a version of Disappear that ISN'T. FUCKING. RUSHED!!!...
What's wrong with Budokan version?

It's too fast, methinks, which kinda kill the mood.

I felt the same way. Such a sombre ballad really needs that very slow tempo maintained, or else it loses the mood. I don't like the Budokan version because it's too fast, even though I love the song itself.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2012, 07:04:23 AM »
Yeah I need a good quality live version of Wither... that solo.

A new Blind Faith would be nice.

Hey what about Finally Free?

Peruvian Skies would please me.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2012, 07:06:51 AM »
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...and a version of Disappear that ISN'T. FUCKING. RUSHED!!!...
What's wrong with Budokan version?

It's too fast, methinks, which kinda kill the mood.

I felt the same way. Such a sombre ballad really needs that very slow tempo maintained, or else it loses the mood. I don't like the Budokan version because it's too fast, even though I love the song itself.
Yeah, basically all of this.

Say, isn't there a bootleg of Disappear's other performance? Is that any better?
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 07:37:45 AM »
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...and a version of Disappear that ISN'T. FUCKING. RUSHED!!!...
What's wrong with Budokan version?

It's too fast, methinks, which kinda kill the mood.

I felt the same way. Such a sombre ballad really needs that very slow tempo maintained, or else it loses the mood. I don't like the Budokan version because it's too fast, even though I love the song itself.
Yeah, basically all of this.

Say, isn't there a bootleg of Disappear's other performance? Is that any better?

My own upload, that I periodically repost here  :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl9j2Vn06kc&feature=plcp
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2012, 07:44:40 AM »
Sounds a bit rushed too, but the cello really adds to it. Thanks wasteland!
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2012, 07:59:03 AM »
Out of the pre-BC&SL stuff:

The Mirror/Lie (we only have Puppies on Acid on DVD)
Caught in a Web
These Walls
The Great Debate (the version on the Score bonus disc isn't high quality enough IMO)
Honor Thy Father (same as TGD)
Learning to Live (we need a version where James nails the F#)
The Silent Man (the acoustic version, which I guess will be on the upcoming release)
Any WDADU song except for OAMOT and Afterlife

I'd also like to see Scarred and Blind Faith with better vocals by James.

EDIT: Misunderstood would be nice as well
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 09:07:48 AM »
Beyond this life is enough for me. Endless Sacrifice as well. Take The Time? Trial of tears too.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 09:11:49 AM »
I agree with everything said. But most importantly, all disc 1 of SDOIT needs to be done or done better.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2012, 11:56:13 AM »
Quote from: Tomislav95 on July 03, 2012, 05:34:43 AM
I would like 6:00, Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Learning to Live, A Fortune in Lies, Misunderstood, Lines in the Sand, The Count of Tuscany and anything from ADTOE.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2012, 12:31:06 PM »
Actually, whole Awake would be ok :P
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2012, 01:08:47 PM »
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Actually, whole Awake would be ok :P
As well as every other album in chronological order  :biggrin:
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2012, 02:07:54 PM »
Agreement I am in with all of WDADU. Also: Two Far.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2012, 02:26:58 PM »
Alright, I'm all for having previously unpublished songs on DVD, but isnt that taking it a little Two Far?

:footloose:

Seriously, if we're talking Majesty Demos here, then I'd be all for A Vision.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2012, 03:02:09 PM »
On an official DVD release, I'd like to see:

A fortune in lies
Ytsejam
WFS
Learning to live
6:00
SDV
Peruvian skies
Anna lee
The glass prison
These walls
TCOT
All of ADToE
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2012, 03:04:04 PM »
anything from ADTOE
TGP
Lifting Shadows
Peruvian Skies
AFIL
These Walls
Caught in a Web
Voices


really i would be happy to see anything that wasnt on previous dvds
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2012, 03:14:20 PM »
Quote from: chrisbDTM on July 03, 2012, 03:04:04 PM
anything from ADTOE
TGP
Lifting Shadows
Peruvian Skies
AFIL
These Walls
Caught in a Web
Voices


really i would be happy to see anything that wasnt on previous dvds

TGP was on the Gigantour DVD, and they performed it quite amazingly too.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2012, 03:16:11 PM »
it deserves a better take. the gigantour one is alright
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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2012, 03:23:33 PM »
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TGP was on the Gigantour DVD, and they performed it quite amazingly too.

That doesn't count. I doubt many of us are gonna buy that DVD just for the one Dream Theater song.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2012, 03:39:40 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on July 03, 2012, 03:23:33 PM
That doesn't count. I doubt many of us are gonna buy that DVD just for the one Dream Theater song.

Panic Attack was on there too. So that's 2 dream theater songs, and between the two songs, they had more time on the DVD than any other band. Besides, it's an awesome DVD regardless, I think any Metal fan should have it.
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Re: Dream Theater material that still NEEDS a DVD release
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2012, 08:00:28 PM »
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Quote from: Jamariquay on July 02, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
Scarred. Once In A Livetime was abbreviated (and doesn't count as a DVD release). Chaos In Motion is terrible.

I'd agree, if I hadn't given up on the possibility that Scarred can be very good live. It's been underwhelming on every single live release (unofficial or not) so far, so I'm thinking it's just not a great live song. So honestly I'll take another song which can be done will over yet another Scarred performance that just isn't quite right.

Actually, I do enjoy the OIALT version of Scarred quite a bit. It's just, well.... not the best sound quality, and James sounds a bit thin at times. I dunno, I read an interview with him a while back where he said that Scarred was his favorite song to sing, so I'd love to hear him get another crack at it.


...At least, I think he said "favorite." There's a fifty-fifty chance I'm misremembering, and he said "least favorite," but I'll stand by it for the moment.
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