The Christian view of the apocalypse

[Rathma]

You're right, my argument is utter hogwash.

[eric42434224]

Perhaps taking psychedelic mushrooms will enlighten you and give you insight, allowing you to formulate a better arguement.
 

[Rathma]

One thing's for sure, I would stay the hell away from Revelations when tripping on shrooms.

[Scheavo]

Did you just equate witchcraft with fasting?   

I equated what you identified as "witchcraft" with fasting, because yes, when you fast, you can hallucinate and experience things you would otherwise not experience.

[jammindude]

Did you just equate witchcraft with fasting?   

I equated what you identified as "witchcraft" with fasting, because yes, when you fast, you can hallucinate and experience things you would otherwise not experience.

*I* identified?   Now I'm completely lost.   I make no personal interpretations.    The word pharmakia associates witchcraft with drug use.   You then made the leap of drug use to fasting because in your opinion, they produce the same effect.   I would never in a million years associate fasting with drug use or witchcraft. 

[Rathma]

Drinking coffee is witchcraft. Also Starbucks' logo is paganistic.

[Scheavo]

In this verse, the original Greek word that is here translated "witchcraft" is "phar-ma-kia"...  the same word from which we derive "pharmaceuticals"...and some translations actually render this verse as "druggery" rather than "witchcraft" or "spiritism". 

I'm using this definition of "witchcraft," and what it implies (i.e. doing something to change your perspective), and simply remarking on the fact that fasting (and sleep deprivation), can cause some extremely weird and hallucinatory experiences.

It's a pretty weak distinction, if you want to say it's okay to stop eating to experience something fake, as opposed to ingesting something to experience something fake. In both instances, you're going to alter your experience, experience something you otherwise would not experience, etc. Both are illusory.