Author Topic: Musical Pet Peeves (Read 10651 times)

Buddyhunter1 · « **on:** June 20, 2012, 10:00:08 AM »

Are there some things you keep hearing in music that just annoy or bother you? Post them here!
I'll start things off.

."Hidden Tracks" - Oh look, there's ten minutes of silence after this song. Gee, I wonder if there's something at the end of it. Time to go edit off the last ten minutes of the song so I can actually listen to it in a playlist. Seriously, these things should have died when vinyls stopped being the norm.
.Bands where 95% of the vocals are harmonies. I'm looking at you, Yes.
.Gospel-style female vocals with no actual words, I.E. Great Gig In The Sky and Through Her Eyes.

Jaq · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:05:47 AM »

Don't agree with the last two, but the hidden track thing?

I was so convinced that Racecar by Periphery was going to be one of those things that the song was twelve minutes old before I realized "holy shit, this is actually a LONG song." (I had downloaded it to give the band a try, and so didn't have the lyrics, which, once I got the CD a couple weeks later, made it obvious how long Racecar was.) I never understood the appeal of hiding the last track behind 10 minutes of silence.

rogerdil · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:22:24 AM »

Agree on first one (bothers me most on Opeth's Deliverance, although I just fast forward), disagree vehemently on third. Also disagree on second point that Yes uses that much harmony (I realize 95% is an exaggeration). Regardless, harmonies are awesome -- i.e., Moon Safari, Queen, Yes, Os Cariocas etc.

Cool Chris · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:31:03 AM »

Songs with parenthetical titles. Not sure why, but always looks silly to me.

An egregious example:

(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)

Implode · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:57:02 AM »

The two beats of silence before the chorus. You know what I'm talking about.

theseoafs · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:58:46 AM »

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on June 20, 2012, 10:00:08 AM

.Bands where 95% of the vocals are harmonies. I'm looking at you, Yes.
.Gospel-style female vocals with no actual words, I.E. Great Gig In The Sky and Through Her Eyes.

Come on, man.

Come on.

Adami · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2012, 11:15:35 AM »

Rhyming fire with desire, this is mostly an annoying metal thing.

VioletS16 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2012, 11:19:06 AM »

Sort of along the lines of Adami's: rhyming walk with talk.
UGGHHH!!!!!!

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2012, 01:19:01 PM »

Quote from: theseoafs on June 20, 2012, 10:58:46 AM

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on June 20, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
.Bands where 95% of the vocals are harmonies. I'm looking at you, Yes.
.Gospel-style female vocals with no actual words, I.E. Great Gig In The Sky and Through Her Eyes.

Come on, man.

Come on.

No kidding.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2012, 02:54:05 PM »

I don't mind hidden tracks too much, when Exodus did it on Exhibit A, it was totally worth the 12 minutes of silence when a banjo version of Bonded In Blood started playing, it was great.

Sketchy · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:23:33 PM »

Gotta say, sometimes the gospel vocals detract from the song, but in those two examples, I personally love the vocals, especially Great Gig, and also I love harmonies.

I'm trying to think of something I hate in songs composition-wise.

To be honest, I can't really think of something, as there are always times when I think that the same thing that usually I'd hear something and rage about works really well.

Sigz · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:28:41 PM »

I fucking hate when in house mixes when there's a massive buildup leading into a low-key cool down beat. Blue balls, every time.

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:30:40 PM »

I hate the fact that In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 has the most pointless hidden tracks.

DebraKadabra · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:34:10 PM »

Great Gig in the Sky is a perfect example of gospel type vox done right IMO.

KevShmev · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:35:14 PM »

The 2nd and 3rd examples in the OP are absolutely terrible, but I absolutely agree about hidden tracks; they are stupid and annoying, and not at all clever anymore (if they ever even were at all).

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:37:58 PM »

I think storm noises are overused these days in songs.

Looking at you, every metal band.

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:39:50 PM »

If it is not dubstep, it sucks.

Zook · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2012, 03:59:25 PM »

Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on June 20, 2012, 03:39:50 PM

If it is not dubstep, it sucks.

Wrong thread.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2012, 04:27:11 PM »

Bands who get 8 and 7 string guitars and then proceed to only use the top 3 (7 string) or 4 (8 strings) strings of their guitar. You get an extended range guitar to have an extended range in addition to the normal range of the guitar. Fucking use it.

Implode · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2012, 05:31:56 PM »

Also, I hate how with some music theory terms, I can't find any evidence that they actually exist. The term alide or an allision, when a melody or phrase ends on the same note/beat that a new melody or phrase begins. I'm not sure if that's how to spell it, but I can't even find evidence that it's a real word anywhere on the internet.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2012, 05:52:05 PM »

Quote from: Implode on June 20, 2012, 05:31:56 PM

Also, I hate how with some music theory terms, I can't find any evidence that they actually exist. The term alide or an allision, when a melody or phrase ends on the same note/beat that a new melody or phrase begins. I'm not sure if that's how to spell it, but I can't even find evidence that it's a real word anywhere on the internet.

Seems kinda ritarded.

Implode · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2012, 05:55:13 PM »

Quote from: black_floyd on June 20, 2012, 05:52:05 PM

Quote from: Implode on June 20, 2012, 05:31:56 PM
Also, I hate how with some music theory terms, I can't find any evidence that they actually exist. The term alide or an allision, when a melody or phrase ends on the same note/beat that a new melody or phrase begins. I'm not sure if that's how to spell it, but I can't even find evidence that it's a real word anywhere on the internet.

Seems kinda ritarded.

I know. What am I supposed to bass my spelling on?

LCArenas · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2012, 06:09:12 PM »

Obvious rhymes. In spanish for example, rhyme "Cariño" with "Niño" just grinds my gears.

Another example is Megadeth's chorus of the song FastLane. YES DAVE, WE KNOW THAT LANE RHYMES WITH PLANE AND TRAIN, WE DID THAT SHIT IN THE THREE WORD STORY THREAD KIND OF A YEAR BEFORE YOU DAMMIT

Zook · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2012, 06:12:13 PM »

When people complain about obvious rhymes, but then don't post better examples.

Better yet: when people complain about obvious rhymes.

Who cares?

pogoowner · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2012, 06:38:02 PM »

Guitar solos that essentially just repeat the vocal melody. It occasionally works for me, but very, very rarely.

faemir · « **Reply #25 on:** June 22, 2012, 07:37:55 AM »

I have a foobar skip silence plugin which skips right past silence to hidden tracks.

What do you guys think about pre-tracks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_albums_with_tracks_hidden_in_the_pregap

The Protest the Hero - Fortress one is really awesome.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #26 on:** June 22, 2012, 08:06:30 AM »

Growls/Screams that are constant through a song as in a lead singer. Opeth has a great ballance of growls and singing but bands that growl through the whole song I just can't listen to.

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #27 on:** June 22, 2012, 08:18:41 AM »

The Hidden Track thing is bullshit. If the track's worthy for the disc, then don't hide it, if it's not worthy than don't put it on the disc.
And if you really want to put it on the disc then do it as a separate track at the end and don't mention it in the booklet, then it's still hidden, but you don't have to endure the silence gap.

Another thing is re-releases with bonus songs like demos or live versions on the same disc. I don't mind the extras but I'd rather have them on a separate disc, otherwise they disturb the mood and flow of the original album.

And I really don't like background vocals that sound like a whole stadium is shouting. Def Leppard, I'm looking at you.

tofee35 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 22, 2012, 12:02:17 PM »

Heres two:

1. When a song uses another song's melody, riff, or vocal line as it's central focus. It works sometimes, but rarely (I admit, though, when it works, it really works well). Pop artists get sneaky about it and use 50's/60's obscure songs that nobody listening to their music would know. A couple of examples are "I'll be watching you" by The Police and "I'll be missing you" by Puff Diddy or there's also Sir-Mix-Alot's "Jump on It" who sampled Sugarhill Gang's "Apache" who covered "Apache" by The Shadows (Since this last one is somewhat of a cover, it doesn't bother me as much)

2. When artists use cliche' catch phrases as their chorus or focus. Country music does this all the time. The most recent example I can think of is that song by Kelly Clarkson with the lyrics "Whatever Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger"... gag me with a spoon. I hope the inventor of that catchphrase is final happy that it's making millions of dollars. I'd sue.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 22, 2012, 02:48:44 PM »

That'll be " Every Breath You Take " by The Police

And yeah the Poof Daddy version was absolute shit.

I have loads of musical pet peeves but they're mostly based arounds bands that adhere to trends in music.

Such as wearing skintight black jeans or have just-got-out-of-bed hair.

Every indie band playing only rickenbacker basses and really old shitty 60's no-name guitars

Every drummer only using one crash cymbal and they all have a different excuse for why they're just jumpin on the bandwagon.

Basically just stuff like that.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #30 on:** June 22, 2012, 09:39:00 PM »

^Songs where the song essentially just steals another song and changes the lyrics. Just shows an artist not creative enough to write their own hit single.

The Letter M · « **Reply #31 on:** June 22, 2012, 09:58:31 PM »

When a song fades out when there's a recorded, definitive ending!!! AHHHHHH! Irks me so bad... and yes, I'm talking about RUSH.

Between The Wheels
Mystic Rhythms
Leave That Thing Alone!
Spindrift

and I think there's one or two more in there... I mean...what?! WHY! Just keep it at full volume to the end. I can understand fading out if there's no real ending (i.e. a ride-out or a vamp), but if there's a perfectly GOOD ending, just let us hear it!

I also have a TINY pet peeve about fade outs in general, because if a song is recorded with the intention of possibly being played live, the ending will just have to be made anyway. I guess I just have a sense of satisfaction when a song definitively ends and isn't faded out with a repeated riff or groove. This is why I like live versions of some songs - REAL ENDINGS!

-Marc.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 22, 2012, 10:06:46 PM »

Yeah, fade-outs kinda bother me too. Sometimes they're done well but most of the time they just seem like the band has no idea how to write endings to songs.

LCArenas · « **Reply #33 on:** June 23, 2012, 12:51:53 AM »

Quote from: Zook on June 20, 2012, 06:12:13 PM

When people complain about obvious rhymes, but then don't post better examples.

Better yet: when people complain about obvious rhymes.

Who cares?

Real and Feel.

Zook · « **Reply #34 on:** June 23, 2012, 02:36:03 AM »

Quote from: LCArenas on June 23, 2012, 12:51:53 AM

Quote from: Zook on June 20, 2012, 06:12:13 PM
When people complain about obvious rhymes, but then don't post better examples.

Better yet: when people complain about obvious rhymes.

Who cares?
Real and Feel.

How is that better than plane and train?

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Author Topic: Musical Pet Peeves (Read 10651 times)