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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2012, 08:37:00 AM »
My favorite PT song was initially Trains, then it was Time Flies, and now it's back to Trains again. :P

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2012, 08:41:55 AM »
Trains
Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Collapse the Light Into Earth
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Fear of a Blank Planet
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2012, 10:09:55 AM »
mellotron scratch & shesmovedon have been in my head all week.  :heart

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2012, 10:33:34 AM »
My favorites:
- Russia On Ice
- Lightbulb Sun
- Anesthetize
- Arriving Somewhere...
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2012, 07:10:09 PM »
Collapse The Light Into Earth  :metal

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2012, 08:40:14 PM »
Is it wrong that I think Arriving Somewhere But Not Here kills the Deadwing album? I think the whole thing would be much better if they replaced it with Half-Light, Christenings, and/or Collecting Space.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2012, 09:12:01 PM »
Thats my fave PT song :(

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2012, 09:20:09 PM »
yeah, in no way would I ever want that song removed from Deadwing. 

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2012, 09:36:15 PM »
Is it wrong that I think Arriving Somewhere But Not Here kills the Deadwing album? I think the whole thing would be much better if they replaced it with Half-Light, Christenings, and/or Collecting Space.

It is very wrong.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2012, 09:37:41 PM »
Is it wrong that I think...

Didn't even need to read the rest of the post. Yes.

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« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2012, 10:28:08 PM »
I have the 320 bitrate, but the mix is pretty atrocious for that song...do you agree?
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2012, 11:20:48 PM »
I have the 320 bitrate, but the mix is pretty atrocious for that song...do you agree?

God, no.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2012, 03:11:34 AM »
Arriving Somewhere is great, but I wish they would have made it 5 minutes shorter. Sadly I loose it around the heavy part, and it's one of the few cases where I could just as much skip forward to next song instead of hearing the last few minutes.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2012, 12:31:26 PM »
I have the 320 bitrate, but the mix is pretty atrocious for that song...do you agree?

Deadwing distorts a few times throughout the album, but I have no problem with the mix itself.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2012, 12:43:31 PM »
I'm not the biggest fan of Arriving Somewhere, but like everything else on Deadwing it totally works in the context of the album.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2012, 12:54:49 PM »
man, i love every bit of "Arriving Somewhere." i know it gets a bit 'heavy handed' (lolz) in the middle, but i find the pacing and energy level excellent. so excellent that, by the time the reprise of the verse section occurs before the incredible Åkerfeldt solo, i am riding a serious high that has really only been reached by a handful of SW songs ("Lips of Ashes," "Anesthetize," "Veneno Para Las Hadas," some stuff on GFD, etc.).

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2012, 01:22:26 PM »
There is nothing wrong with Arriving Somewhere and anyone who thinks so is clearly insane.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2012, 01:39:04 PM »
Deadwing and IA (apart from Blackest Eyes, Trains and Heart Attack) are way overrated.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2012, 02:02:28 PM »
I have the 320 bitrate, but the mix is pretty atrocious for that song...do you agree?

Deadwing distorts a few times throughout the album, but I have no problem with the mix itself.
I'm not really sure what the difference is, but yeah I'm talking about the general distortion that creeps in. Which is a result of the mix, is it not? I dunno.


And Deadwing might be overrated on these forums, but In Absentia definitely isn't.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2012, 02:19:15 PM »
I have the 320 bitrate, but the mix is pretty atrocious for that song...do you agree?

Deadwing distorts a few times throughout the album, but I have no problem with the mix itself.
I'm not really sure what the difference is, but yeah I'm talking about the general distortion that creeps in. Which is a result of the mix, is it not? I dunno.


I don't know what the deal with the distortion is. I always assumed it was more of a mastering issue than a mixing issue, since SW mixed it and it doesn't seem like he would create something like this.



The mixing of the instruments itself is great imo, its just the loud parts are mastered WAY too loud, despite the loudness war statement on the album.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2012, 02:20:30 PM »
Deadwing and IA (apart from Blackest Eyes, Trains and Heart Attack) are way overrated.

While I agree, Blackest Eyes, Trains and Heartattack are normally the most praised songs on IA.  :lol

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2012, 02:44:02 PM »
I have the 320 bitrate, but the mix is pretty atrocious for that song...do you agree?

Deadwing distorts a few times throughout the album, but I have no problem with the mix itself.
I'm not really sure what the difference is, but yeah I'm talking about the general distortion that creeps in. Which is a result of the mix, is it not? I dunno.


I don't know what the deal with the distortion is. I always assumed it was more of a mastering issue than a mixing issue, since SW mixed it and it doesn't seem like he would create something like this.



The mixing of the instruments itself is great imo, its just the loud parts are mastered WAY too loud, despite the loudness war statement on the album.
Is that a chart of Arriving Somewhere or the entire album?
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2012, 02:57:56 PM »
Arriving Somewhere, but the whole album is like that.

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« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2012, 02:59:15 PM »
So at the parts where it's all blocky looking is when each instrument is mixed too loudly or something?
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2012, 03:34:24 PM »
I think Mellotron Scratch may be the greatest song ever.   :heart

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2012, 03:41:28 PM »
So at the parts where it's all blocky looking is when each instrument is mixed too loudly or something?

the blocky sausage wave parts are where the entire song is too loud. the mix is the mix; mastering doesn't alter that drastically these days. the issue is that when the songs get loud, the whole thing is murdered because it's so loud. the kick drum disappears particularly on Deadwing, as it doesn't have enough attack EQ to come through when the transients are cut off so badly.

the worst part, clipping-wise, on DW is when the heavy guitars come in for the chorus of "Open Car." because the notes are held and the drums mostly hit on the quarter notes, you get a good half a second to hear the entire mix going KSHHHHHH because of the digital clipping (which is 98% distortion!) caused by the compressor/limiter squashing the audio.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2012, 05:25:48 PM »
Arriving Somewhere is the best song on Deadwing. Anyone who disagrees should go burn in hell or something.  :P
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« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2012, 05:29:08 PM »
Arriving Somewhere is the best song on Deadwing. Anyone who disagrees should go burn in hell or something.  :P

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2012, 05:29:47 PM »
Arriving Somewhere is the best song on Deadwing. Anyone who disagrees should go burn in hell or something.  :P
Agreed....The...Start...of...Something...Beautiful...is...a...pretty...good...contender...though.
Orion....that's the one with a bunch of power chords and boringly harsh vocals, isn't it?
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« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2012, 05:36:07 PM »
I think Mellotron Scratch may be the greatest song ever.   :heart

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2012, 10:06:34 PM »
Lets do something original.


Like rank the songs from In Absentia  ;)


Collapse The Light Into Earth
Trains
Blackest Eyes
Gravity Eyelids
.3
The Creator Has A Mastertape
Wedding Nails
Heartattack In A Layby
Lips Of Ashes
Prodigal
The Sound Of Muzak

IT WAS SO HARDDD...the top 4 or 5 are interchangeable..

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2012, 10:09:15 PM »
Heartattack in a Layby
Trains
Lips of Ashes
Blackest Eyes
Collapse the Light Into Earth
Strip the Soul
.3
Prodigal
Gravity Eyelids
The Sound of Muzak
Wedding Nails
The Creator Has A Mastertape
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2012, 11:47:07 PM »
I know Strip the Soul isn't the best them but don't keep it out of your lists folks

Collapse The Light Into Earth
Heartattack in a Layby
Blackest Eyes

.3
Trains
Prodigal

The Sound of Muzak
Gravity Eyelids
Lips of Ashes
Wedding Nails
Strip the Soul
The Creator Has a Mastertape

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« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2012, 11:50:28 PM »
:lol

I was just going off the songs on his list, because I couldn't recall them all. But I fixed it!
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