Author Topic: SOPA/"Protect IP" Act (Read 25538 times)

jsem · « **Reply #140 on:** January 16, 2012, 02:25:00 PM »

It's still a good idea to black out. To raise awareness of what might have happened and to equip and inform the world that future efforts to pass legislation like this is unacceptable.

Nel · « **Reply #141 on:** January 16, 2012, 02:49:04 PM »

Plus a black out on Wikipedia will probably alert waaaaay more people that this existed in the first place.

orcus116 · « **Reply #142 on:** January 16, 2012, 04:00:47 PM »

I love slacktivism because of the guise of "raising awareness". Whoever will care about this bill has already known about it.

antigoon · « **Reply #143 on:** January 16, 2012, 04:13:07 PM »

Jimmy Wales is a slacktivist?

Sigz · « **Reply #144 on:** January 16, 2012, 04:16:20 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on January 16, 2012, 04:00:47 PM

Whoever will care about this bill has already known about it.

ehh, I'm not sure I buy that, especially if it really does have anywhere near the far-reaching effects some are talking about (which is still a big if).

Chino · « **Reply #145 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:53:27 PM »

Quote from: Nel on January 16, 2012, 02:49:04 PM

Plus a black out on Wikipedia will probably alert waaaaay more people that this existed in the first place.

Craig's List, Reddit, and a list of several others, all plan on blackouts as well.

Aramatheis · « **Reply #146 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:27:14 PM »

so for teh blackoutz i herd you has to like, run magnets over your screen for it to work properly

is dat the rihgt thing to do/?

Aramatheis · « **Reply #147 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:44:03 PM »

found something interesting:

https://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html

Sigz · « **Reply #148 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:33:59 PM »

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SOPA and PROTECT IP contain no provisions to actually remove copyrighted content, but rather focus on the censorship of links to entire domains.

I think that's probably the most important point in all this.

orcus116 · « **Reply #149 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:42:02 PM »

So basically if they suspect someone is uploading an album through mediafire (because that never happens) then they'll have the power to block anyone from using mediafire even if it's just one out of every thousand legitimate uploads?

Sigz · « **Reply #150 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:58:27 PM »

Sounds like it. I mean, if a site is hosting an album someone illegally uploaded, that would definitely fall under the purview of "facilitating" piracy.

Aramatheis · « **Reply #151 on:** January 17, 2012, 07:55:15 PM »

Infringement?!

that's pretty much it
and since the wording is [apparently] very poor and non concise, a very large amount of things will fall under the category of "infringement" of the act

orcus116 · « **Reply #152 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:24:23 PM »

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/dodd-lashes-out-at-sopa-strike.html

My favorite quote:

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"It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and who use their services,'' Dodd said in a statement. "It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today."

antigoon · « **Reply #153 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:35:11 PM »

what an asshat

Sigz · « **Reply #154 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:02:46 PM »

lol. It's abuse of power that a company funded solely by donations take an action directed by decisions made by the people who donate. Alright then.

El Barto · « **Reply #155 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:46:28 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on January 17, 2012, 09:24:23 PM

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/dodd-lashes-out-at-sopa-strike.html

My favorite quote:

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"It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and who use their services,'' Dodd said in a statement. "It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today."

Wow. Asshat indeed.

Nigerius Rex · « **Reply #156 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:13:12 PM »

Quote from: Aramatheis on January 17, 2012, 02:44:03 PM

found something interesting:

https://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html

Great quote:

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If the Attorney General served reddit with an order to remove links to a domain, we would be required to scrub every post and comment on the site containing the domain and censor the links out, even if the specific link contained no infringing content. We would also need to implement a system to automatically censor the domain from any future posts or comments. This places a measurable burden upon the site's technical infrastructure. It also damages one of the most important tenets of reddit, and the internet as a whole – free and open discussion about whatever the fuck you want.

Jaffa · « **Reply #157 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:25:19 PM »

Ooookay, it took a Wikipedia blackout, but I'm finally taking this thing seriously.

Can anyone link me a site where I can read the text of the bill itself? Not just people talking about it or summarizing it, but the actual wording of the SOPA act. I'd appreciate it very much.

Scheavo · « **Reply #158 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:31:52 PM »

Quote from: Nigerius Rex on January 17, 2012, 11:13:12 PM

Quote from: Aramatheis on January 17, 2012, 02:44:03 PM
found something interesting:

https://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html

Great quote:

Quote
If the Attorney General served reddit with an order to remove links to a domain, we would be required to scrub every post and comment on the site containing the domain and censor the links out, even if the specific link contained no infringing content. We would also need to implement a system to automatically censor the domain from any future posts or comments. This places a measurable burden upon the site's technical infrastructure. It also damages one of the most important tenets of reddit, and the internet as a whole – free and open discussion about whatever the fuck you want.

It was good up til then, but he basically takes a very self-centered view of freedom. A lot of what he brings up are good points, but instead of adding to the discussion of how the bill / idea of protecting IP can be improved upon, it denies that anything should eve be done, and that it's a matter of free speech, or something.

Chino · « **Reply #159 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:47:45 AM »

Chino · « **Reply #160 on:** January 18, 2012, 04:51:45 AM »

This may have been brought up earlier, but doesn't our government have more important things to focus their time and money on?

Super Dude · « **Reply #161 on:** January 18, 2012, 05:05:04 AM »

Apparently not, no.

Well, where the legislative branch is concerned anyway.

Zantera · « **Reply #162 on:** January 18, 2012, 06:02:51 AM »

I didn't find out about this whole thing until today, I normally visit Wikipedia 30 times per day for checking different things, so you can imagine my shock.

While I haven't read up much about it, I think it sounds like a pretty crappy law to be honest, and I don't get where stupid ideas like this comes from.

antigoon · « **Reply #163 on:** January 18, 2012, 06:54:17 AM »

Shit, I didn't realize the guy Orcus quoted was the Chris Dodd. That's revolving door politics for you, eh?

Sir GuitarCozmo · « **Reply #164 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:07:35 AM »

Fortunately, Wikipedia has their whole blackout set up to redirect each page to their blackout page. So the actual page comes up briefly. If you hit escape before it redirects, you can still access the page you're looking for.

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #165 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:19:35 AM »

Or you can just use this link:

https://www.wikipedia.org/?banner=none

jsem · « **Reply #166 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:05:36 AM »

Quote from: Sir GuitarCozmo on January 18, 2012, 07:07:35 AM

Fortunately, Wikipedia has their whole blackout set up to redirect each page to their blackout page. So the actual page comes up briefly. If you hit escape before it redirects, you can still access the page you're looking for.

aawww yeaaahhhh

Thanks!

Super Dude · « **Reply #167 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:10:28 AM »

So who here actually contacted their local representative when the blackout went up? I did so early this morning, but unfortunately the guy's gonna be outta my district by the time the presidential election's over.

rumborak · « **Reply #168 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:15:47 AM »

I just called MA's Republican senator (I'm assuming the Democrat one already opposes it). Apparently Scott Brown said yesterday he's willing to oppose it too.

rumborak

Super Dude · « **Reply #169 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:21:11 AM »

Wow, Brown? I would've thought he'd be on the bandwagon.

rumborak · « **Reply #170 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:29:39 AM »

Yeah, I was somewhat surprised too, especially when Kerry hasn't made any statement yet it seems.

rumborak

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #171 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:39:48 AM »

Scott Brown's days are numbered and he knows it. Elizabeth Warren is very likely to take his seat. The only reason Scott Brown even got elected was because Martha Coakley (his opponent in the election) is about as charismatic as a fucking cinder block.

Implode · « **Reply #172 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:59:53 AM »

A couple webcomics I read including QC and Homestuck have info about SOPA today. I'm glad to see that the word is getting out.

Scheavo · « **Reply #173 on:** January 18, 2012, 10:30:49 AM »

Quote from: Chino on January 18, 2012, 04:51:45 AM

This may have been brought up earlier, but doesn't our government have more important things to focus their time and money on?

This is actually one of their constitutional duties.

Chino · « **Reply #174 on:** January 18, 2012, 10:53:02 AM »

Lots of people on Facebook (myself included) have made this (or something similar) their profile pic.

News: Track-by-track video for Paralyzed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5TbGbalPs&feature=youtu.be

Author Topic: SOPA/"Protect IP" Act (Read 25538 times)