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I took a listen to the Cry of Dawn as what I'd heard sounded interesting.  Besides a decent couple of tracks at the start, it's as stale and generic as anything that Frontiers has delivered lately, maybe even moreso.  A shame cause Goram sounds pretty good.

Goran never sounds good to me - he sounds so whiny. Was listening to Yngwie's Eclipse the other day. Great album but would be so much better with JLT singing. Or pretty much any other singer Yngwie has had (except himself of course  :lol)

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Oh is that the same dude? I actually like the singing on Eclipse, but even then he was clearly no JLT. Lacking the power and range.
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I will say that Fire and Ice is a really underrated Yngwie record IMO.

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I will say that Fire and Ice is a really underrated Yngwie record IMO.

I did like some tracks on that but it was also a bit of a Skipathon.   I haven't played it in years but what I do recall (at time of release) was that I was playing the title track and Final Curtain quite a bit.  And that I thought the lead single (Teaser) was a bit limp wristed.   :)

Having said all that it's a fucking masterpiece compared to some of his recent stuff .
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Ugh, just watched 30 seconds of a new Hardline song.  Sappy piano ballad with, you guessed it on piano.  Fuck man, I don't have time to sit through this shit, I have to get up at 4am.

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Ugh, just watched 30 seconds of a new Hardline song.  Sappy piano ballad with, you guessed it on piano.  Fuck man, I don't have time to sit through this shit, I have to get up at 4am.

When it started off with Del Vecchio sitting at a piano, I was like oh shit. I skipped right through it to see if it picked up at all, but it didn't. Screw that. We know these albums are gonna have the sappy ballads. We want rockers dammit! :lol
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Ugh, just watched 30 seconds of a new Hardline song.  Sappy piano ballad with, you guessed it on piano.  Fuck man, I don't have time to sit through this shit, I have to get up at 4am.

When it started off with Del Vecchio sitting at a piano, I was like oh shit. I skipped right through it to see if it picked up at all, but it didn't. Screw that. We know these albums are gonna have the sappy ballads. We want rockers dammit! :lol


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If that Hardline song is a confirmed Sapfest, I'll pass.

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If that Hardline song is a confirmed Sapfest, I'll pass.

It is, but to be fair it's a good vocal.
I've liked some of the songs I've heard so far. Some del Vecchio cookie cutter stuff though. But that voice -  :hefdaddy

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I will say that Fire and Ice is a really underrated Yngwie record IMO.

I did like some tracks on that but it was also a bit of a Skipathon.   I haven't played it in years but what I do recall (at time of release) was that I was playing the title track and Final Curtain quite a bit.  And that I thought the lead single (Teaser) was a bit limp wristed.   :)

Having said all that it's a fucking masterpiece compared to some of his recent stuff .

It was a bit of a letdown after Odyssey and Eclipse. Still, a million times better than his last decade and a half.

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If that Hardline song is a confirmed Sapfest, I'll pass.

It is, but to be fair it's a good vocal.
I've liked some of the songs I've heard so far. Some del Vecchio cookie cutter stuff though. But that voice -  :hefdaddy

I'm still really interested in giving it a listen too, just because of his amazing vocals.  Between this and ARP, Johnny's voice seems to be quite wasted these days IMO.

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Just listened to the new Tyketto. I didn't like the first single so wasn't expecting much but this listen was ok. Hated the third song but the rest was a pleasant listen. Some nice guitar. One track lifted the riff to to Yngwie's Now Is The Time and I spotted a couple of Queen licks, but better than the recent Frontiers stuff. Can't say I'm desperate to hear it again but it was ok.

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Just listened to the new Tyketto. I didn't like the first single so wasn't expecting much but this listen was ok. Hated the third song but the rest was a pleasant listen. Some nice guitar. One track lifted the riff to to Yngwie's Now Is The Time and I spotted a couple of Queen licks, but better than the recent Frontiers stuff. Can't say I'm desperate to hear it again but it was ok.

yeah............not great but better than expected and some of the best songs right at the end.
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Been eager to check out this one since hearing the first single, which I've listened to constantly since, one of the best songs Frontiers has put out in a long time imo. As is always the case with Frontiers albums though, the lead single is by far my favourite song on the album.
The first two singles (Reach, I Need it Now), and Tearing Down the Sky would be my early favourites. There are some good slightly heavier songs (relatively speaking) towards the end too, along with some of the wimpiest ballads too unfortunately.

Overall, so far I agree it was an ok listen, better than most recent Frontiers stuff, although the songwriting hasn't blown me away for the most part. Some songs feel like they have too many mood changes (Big Money would be awesome if they stuck to the chorus mood throughout), and the melodies could be stronger, but there's some great guitar work. Kick Like a Mule, Tearing Down the Sky, and The Fastest Man Alive rip it up with those solos. Also, the production is the best I've heard from Frontiers in.... I can't think of any off the top of my head that are close to as good.

Gonna give it a few more listens, but it may be another case of a great single hyping me up on an average album.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Wasn't even gonna bother cause I hated what I had heard, but might have to give it a chance if there is some mean solos.

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Eh, you won't like it.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Eh, you won't like it.

 :lol  I was waiting for that.

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I didn't want to break script. :lol
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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That first single was one of the worst things I've heard in a long time.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums................or WTF.  ;D

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That first single was one of the worst things I've heard in a long time.

You better be careful. You're establishing a nasty pattern of being wrong lately. :lol
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Lately? :lol

This has been going on for a while!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums................or WTF.  ;D

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That first single was one of the worst things I've heard in a long time.

I'm with Tim on this one.

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Given your taste in music, I'd be concerned if you liked it.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Given your taste in music, I'd be concerned if you liked it.

Hmmm...another challenge.  ;D

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Given your taste in music, I'd be concerned if you liked it.

Hmmm...another challenge.  ;D

Yeah, you won't like it  :biggrin:
Unless you're mellowing in your old age and going a bit "country"...

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Kade will never listen to country music. Never!!

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Kade will never listen to country music. Never!!

Nothing more true has ever been stated on this forum.

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Isn't listening to country music a bannable offense here?
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Isn't listening to country music a bannable offense here?

If it isn't it fucking should be.

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Well no Bon Jovi after New Jersey then  ;D
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Well no Bon Jovi after New Jersey then  ;D

You can't tell me what to do. It's my life! :neverusethis:
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Have a nice day Blob.
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I'd make another joke, but between those two posts, that's my knowledge of post-2000 Bon Jovi exhausted. :lol
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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I'd make another joke, but between those two posts, that's my knowledge of post-2000 Bon Jovi exhausted. :lol

 :rollin

So true!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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I always thought Jovi ripped off The Sabbath Stones for It's My Life, but I think that may be giving him too much credit.