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Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« on: January 14, 2017, 08:07:26 AM »
Has to be a tough thing to do for artists who still tour a lot who had a history of prolific creativity.  Look at some classic artists who still tour at least somewhat regularly:

Roger Waters - one album in the last 24 years
Billy Joel - one album in the last 23 years
Moody Blues - last new album was in 2003
Styx - last album of original material was in 2003
Kansas - recently released their first album since 2000

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 08:46:12 AM »
Kansas has to be pulled aside a little bit from that group. They had wanted to do new material, but Walsh stood in the way. They even did a project called Native Window, which was all the members minus Walsh and "opened" on some Kansas tours to put new material forward to the fans. Then they did a new album immediately after Walsh retired. Only time will tell if they continue with new material in the next few years, but I think they need some slack for now.
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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2017, 08:48:42 AM »
Also, I will add to this list:

Queensryche: After the Tate chronicles they released a new album and at shows to support the album were playing 1-3 songs from it. To me that can really define a nostalgia act, when you have new material and refuse to back it live.
Def Leppard: It was forever ago when I saw them on the X tour, but they played one song from it, while playing most of Pyromania and Hysteria, as has been the case for god knows how many years.

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 10:29:36 AM »
Rolling Stones and Queen would qualify here.

Air Supply as well.  :lol

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 10:31:45 AM »
Kansas has to be pulled aside a little bit from that group. They had wanted to do new material, but Walsh stood in the way. They even did a project called Native Construct, which was all the members minus Walsh and "opened" on some Kansas tours to put new material forward to the fans. Then they did a new album immediately after Walsh retired. Only time will tell if they continue with new material in the next few years, but I think they need some slack for now.
Native Window, but otherwise accurate. Word on the street is that, yes, they will be continuing to record new music.

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 11:10:32 AM »
Roger Waters is a different animal though (pun not intended). While he has been touring on material from the 70s, he is not touring continuously, and is selling out arenas, while what I consider to be nostalgia acts (like Styx) seem to be touring casinos and clubs non-stop. 

He's also working on a new album:

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/01/roger-waters-previews-new-solo-album-with-in-studio-clip/

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 12:05:10 PM »
Rolling Stones and Queen would qualify here.

I would not really list Queen, since it's more than an unique situation; it's not that all of a sudden they said "Well, we have enoug hits, let's tour on those from now on" - they lost to AIDS one of the most charismatic singers in the entire history of music. First they took the hit, then they found some other guest singers and with all the "Queen +" tours found the compromise between wanting to play again (to the point that they even recorded a new album with Paul Rodgers), and avoid the formality of having anyone else than Freddie in the band known as "Queen".

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 12:47:51 PM »
Rolling Stones and Queen would qualify here.

I would not really list Queen, since it's more than an unique situation; it's not that all of a sudden they said "Well, we have enoug hits, let's tour on those from now on" - they lost to AIDS one of the most charismatic singers in the entire history of music. First they took the hit, then they found some other guest singers and with all the "Queen +" tours found the compromise between wanting to play again (to the point that they even recorded a new album with Paul Rodgers), and avoid the formality of having anyone else than Freddie in the band known as "Queen".

Totally, but, as far as I know, they're touring exclusively on old material.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 02:28:56 PM »
I guess it's at that point that the ock stars know what it's like to have a job  :lol

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2017, 02:37:22 PM »
Kansas has to be pulled aside a little bit from that group. They even did a project called Native Construct
I LOVE that group!! I didn't know they were old Kansas members, wow :metal :corn
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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 03:31:14 PM »
Queen doesn't tour somewhat regularly. ;)

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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2017, 06:04:16 PM »
Kansas has to be pulled aside a little bit from that group. They even did a project called Native Construct
I LOVE that group!! I didn't know they were old Kansas members, wow :metal :corn

Native Construct need to accept their status as a nostalgia act already! They can just rest on their laurels.

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2017, 06:27:08 PM »
up until the last 7 months,

The Monkees given their last new album was in 1996 before Good Times! was released last May.

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 02:35:04 AM »
Has to be a tough thing to do for artists who still tour a lot who had a history of prolific creativity. 

All depends on the group and the circumstances.

There's bands like Iron Maiden, ACDC, and Metallica still releasing albums that are selling by the truckload and playing to audiences as big as they ever have regardless of what they choose to play (the old classics, new stuff or mix of both).

Then there are the acts who still release albums fairly regularly, still sell plenty of tickets, but it doesn't matter how good their new stuff is, (Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Alice Cooper etc.)all the fans generally want to hear is what they were playing 20-40 years ago.

Next are those that essentially reunite, don't need to record anything new, just turn up and play the old greatest hits set to sold out stadiums and everyone (fans, promoters and band) are happy.

I don't feel sympathy for acts that fall into any of the above. The ones I really have a lot of sympathy for are

Groups who have continued to write, record and tour high quality stuff, but for whatever reason are now playing pubs, casinos etc when in their glory days they were selling out stadiums and it doesn't matter what setlist they play nothing can change that.

Finally those performers who have lost the rights to the their band name and can't even sell tickets to a gig while other people are making a living performing songs the original performers wrote and are using the name of the band. Essentially the act now performing is basically a tribute band performing using the original band's name, while the former original members of the band can not perform under their name. The original members of Australian group Little River Band who achieved significant success in the US and Australia in the mid 70s through early 80s are currently going through this. Very, very sad. It's why didn't have any real sympathy for John Payne when Wetton, Downes, Howe and Palmer reformed. It would have been ludicrous if they had been unable to perform those songs using the word Asia in the band's title. I'm pretty sure they chose to perform as Original Asia simply to emphasise that they were the original lineup.


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Re: Accepting your status as a nostalgia act
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I think there's a difference between Billy Joel and the rest too.  His residency is unprecedented.  It's not like he's doing 100 nights a year trotting out the same setlist.   He mixes it up. He takes fan requests.  And he is basically the "house band" for one of the most famous arenas in the world.   

Now, Kiss (who I love), but still....

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I think there's a difference between Billy Joel and the rest too.  His residency is unprecedented.  It's not like he's doing 100 nights a year trotting out the same setlist.   He mixes it up. He takes fan requests.  And he is basically the "house band" for one of the most famous arenas in the world.

Yeah, looking at Billy Joel's overall residency of MSG.  Out of 37 shows, he's played 100 different songs in his three years of doing a monthly show at MSG.  Doesn't look like a nostalgia act to me.

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« Reply #16 on: Today at 04:18:55 PM »
I think there's a difference between Billy Joel and the rest too.  His residency is unprecedented.  It's not like he's doing 100 nights a year trotting out the same setlist.   He mixes it up. He takes fan requests.  And he is basically the "house band" for one of the most famous arenas in the world.

Yeah, looking at Billy Joel's overall residency of MSG.  Out of 37 shows, he's played 100 different songs in his three years of doing a monthly show at MSG.  Doesn't look like a nostalgia act to me.

How many of those 100 songs were released in the last 25-30 years?
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« Reply #17 on: Today at 05:25:44 PM »
I think there's a difference between Billy Joel and the rest too.  His residency is unprecedented.  It's not like he's doing 100 nights a year trotting out the same setlist.   He mixes it up. He takes fan requests.  And he is basically the "house band" for one of the most famous arenas in the world.

Yeah, looking at Billy Joel's overall residency of MSG.  Out of 37 shows, he's played 100 different songs in his three years of doing a monthly show at MSG.  Doesn't look like a nostalgia act to me.

How many of those 100 songs were released in the last 25-30 years?

Exactly. He's a top shelf nostalgia act.

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Until recently with Sting (and I am so happy about it) both talked about writing blocks and not writing new material.   They toured without staying relevant with new music.

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« Reply #19 on: Today at 06:25:01 PM »
I think once you start doing tours with the gimmick of playing one or two full albums (not NEW albums, mind you) live in their entirety, then you've truly embraced your status as a nostalgia act. I've seen tons of classic rock, and just older rock bands in general doing this over the last decade. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it's definitely a ticket-seller to get old fans and casual fans in the door.

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« Reply #20 on: Today at 06:39:08 PM »
One band that comes to mind is Blue Oyster Cult. I saw them about 10 years ago when my friend had a couple of tickets to a local show and said why the hell not. I had actually heard some of their non-hit songs at the time but it was pretty obvious that most of the crowd was there to hear the only three songs they really wanted to. It was at some theater so everyone just seated the entire time until Don't Fear The Reaper came on and everyone just lost their shit. Then they broke into Shootin' Shark and everyone just sat back down until Godzilla and Burnin' For You.

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« Reply #21 on: Today at 07:02:30 PM »
Funny you say that.  I've got a good friend that's a huge BOC fan and I love going with him to see hem still but I totally agree with you.
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