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« Reply #805 on: October 22, 2017, 04:19:26 AM »
What a brilliant album.  Original, heavy, melodic, very well written and constructed and everything here is done with love and purpose.  Matt's vocals are fucking incredible and the versatility he shows here is insane.  Some of the screams here are his best.  Everything about this album is fantastic, this doesn't disappoint and certainly a top album of the year.  I'm so glad the screaming is back also.

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« Reply #806 on: October 22, 2017, 04:46:23 AM »
Just finished my second listen.  Highlights are all of them but if I had to nail down a few, I'd go Sever the Hand, Endless Night, Other Worlds and Betrayer.

Thrown into the Fire is so unique and has such an interesting structure.
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« Reply #807 on: October 22, 2017, 02:15:13 PM »
Yep, left a great first impression, I'll be giving way more listens soon. Confident this will be the Trivium album I've been waiting for them to release  :metal

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« Reply #808 on: October 23, 2017, 08:28:32 AM »
What a brilliant album.  Original, heavy, melodic, very well written and constructed and everything here is done with love and purpose.  Matt's vocals are fucking incredible and the versatility he shows here is insane.  Some of the screams here are his best.  Everything about this album is fantastic, this doesn't disappoint and certainly a top album of the year.  I'm so glad the screaming is back also.

Exactly my thoughts as well. Great blend of heavy and melody, good balance of screaming and singing - all wrapped up in interesting yet catchy song structures.

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« Reply #809 on: October 23, 2017, 09:42:35 AM »
I picked this up late Saturday afternoon, but haven't had a chance to get through it yet.  I'm going to remedy that today.  But I do like what I've heard so far. 
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« Reply #810 on: October 23, 2017, 10:52:48 AM »
I picked this up late Saturday afternoon, but haven't had a chance to get through it yet.  I'm going to remedy that today.  But I do like what I've heard so far.

Interested to hear your thoughts bosk. For me this is easily in their top 3 albums along with In Waves and Shogun.

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« Reply #811 on: October 23, 2017, 11:47:39 AM »
Dat riff in Sever the Hand!  :omg: :metal
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« Reply #812 on: October 23, 2017, 03:09:44 PM »
I loved The last album but made it five songs into this before the screaming and the blast beats forced me away.

There was some good stuff in 5here but was there a need for blast beats in every song? Or so it seemed.

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« Reply #813 on: October 23, 2017, 03:24:31 PM »
I loved The last album but made it five songs into this before the screaming and the blast beats forced me away.

There was some good stuff in 5here but was there a need for blast beats in every song? Or so it seemed.

There isn't blast beats in every song.  There's actually not that much in the way of blast beats, but depends what you call blast beats I guess.


Dat riff in Sever the Hand!  :omg: :metal

I think this is my fav track at the moment.  Yeah, that middle riff is very Iced Earth like.

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« Reply #814 on: October 23, 2017, 08:45:08 PM »
Still have yet to hear the whole thing but from the few songs Iíve heard it totally blows away the last 2 albums (which I didnít care for at all)

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« Reply #815 on: October 24, 2017, 08:26:14 AM »
I loved The last album but made it five songs into this before the screaming and the blast beats forced me away.

There was some good stuff in 5here but was there a need for blast beats in every song? Or so it seemed.

Yeah I'd say if screaming and blast beats and/or fast thrashy beats aren't your thing, Silence in the Snow would be a much better listen. That said, I like the balance of screams to clean and groove to thrash on this new record.

Dat riff in Sever the Hand!  :omg: :metal
I think this is my fav track at the moment.  Yeah, that middle riff is very Iced Earth like.

Sever the Hand is easily top 3 for me right now. Great tune.

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« Reply #816 on: October 25, 2017, 09:11:22 AM »
I picked this up late Saturday afternoon, but haven't had a chance to get through it yet.  I'm going to remedy that today.  But I do like what I've heard so far.

Interested to hear your thoughts bosk. For me this is easily in their top 3 albums along with In Waves and Shogun.

Not sure yet.  I like a lot of what I hear.  But two things:  (1) this isn't my usual style, so it takes me awhile to get used to; and (2) I'm undecided on the lyrical content.  Matt's lyrics are very angry, even for him.  And that's fine.  But it is the target of that anger that gives me pause.  I can't tell from the lyrics if they are angry anti-God lyrics or angry anti-religion lyrics.  If the former, I find that offputting, and I'm just not interested.  If the latter, I get it and can respect that. 
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« Reply #817 on: October 25, 2017, 09:13:47 AM »
I picked this up late Saturday afternoon, but haven't had a chance to get through it yet.  I'm going to remedy that today.  But I do like what I've heard so far.

Interested to hear your thoughts bosk. For me this is easily in their top 3 albums along with In Waves and Shogun.

Not sure yet.  I like a lot of what I hear.  But two things:  (1) this isn't my usual style, so it takes me awhile to get used to; and (2) I'm undecided on the lyrical content.  Matt's lyrics are very angry, even for him.  And that's fine.  But it is the target of that anger that gives me pause.  I can't tell from the lyrics if they are angry anti-God lyrics or angry anti-religion lyrics.  If the former, I find that offputting, and I'm just not interested.  If the latter, I get it and can respect that.

I'm with you on that, and I'm still navigating my way through the lyrics as well.

Like you, if it's anti-religion, I get that and to a degree respect it. If it's simply anti-God I don't back that. That said, I'm leaning toward this stuff being mostly anti-religion.

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« Reply #818 on: October 25, 2017, 09:22:18 AM »
I think that's where it is going too, but it isn't clear, and I don't know enough about Matt to tell.
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« Reply #819 on: October 25, 2017, 09:25:19 AM »
So far I definitely don't like it as much as Shogun and Ascendancy, some of Matt's vocal deliveries on the clean parts sound offputting to me.

Betrayer though, holy shit, that's one of their best songs, that chorus :hefdaddy. The Wretchedness Inside is also great but a bit too much on the heavy side maybe? I think I would've prefered it if it had some more breathing room, if that makes sense.

Overall, exceeded my expectations after hearing "The Heart From Your Hate", but probably won't reach my top 10-15-whatever albums of the year. This is probably more my fault than Trivium's though :lol I listen to a shitton of new albums every year

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« Reply #820 on: October 25, 2017, 09:41:45 AM »
I think that's where it is going too, but it isn't clear, and I don't know enough about Matt to tell.

I really don't either, but from what I've caught the anger in the lyrics seems to be directed at organized religion (preachers, etc...) and judgement cast from those folks. If that's the case, I don't have a huge issue with that, while I think I believe different things than Matt, unfortunately there are a lot of people that have been hurt by churches, leaders, and other folks associated with "religion" and their feelings are definitely valid at times.

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« Reply #821 on: October 25, 2017, 10:55:58 AM »
This album is kicking my butt in a good way.  I'm loving Alex's style and sound.
Anybody know whose guitar is in which channel?  I'm thinking Corey is left but not sure.
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« Reply #822 on: October 25, 2017, 12:12:57 PM »
This album is kicking my butt in a good way.  I'm loving Alex's style and sound.
Anybody know whose guitar is in which channel?  I'm thinking Corey is left but not sure.

I think Matt follows the classic album-Hetfield rule of thumb for rhythm guitars, meaning Matt does all the rhythms to keep everything as tight as possible. Corey does most of the solos (there are definitely a couple Matt solos on this record) and most of the overdubbed stuff like melody lines, texture lines, flourishes in chorus, etc... 

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« Reply #823 on: October 25, 2017, 02:25:55 PM »
Yeah, there is a lot of Corey, probably 75% Corey and 25% Matt, maybe more Corey. 

I haven't really gotten into the lyrics yet, but I definitely will.

The Wretchedness Inside reeks of Korn to me.

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« Reply #824 on: October 26, 2017, 05:07:35 AM »
Thrown Into the Fire video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnjZqQhZYiY

Never would have picked that this song would be picked for a video.