Author Topic: "Musical importance" rating of the members (also, a poll experiment, read post!) (Read 4749 times)

rumborak · « **on:** September 18, 2011, 10:56:04 AM »

READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

In the MP discussion thread I did a percentage ranking of how vital I find each DT member's contribution to the DT sound. I think it would be interesting to see the board's view on this.

Sooo, this forum only allows multiple-choice polls (no ranking per se), so I want to try this:

Before you cast your vote, you look at the current poll distribution (click on "View results" to see). You then cast your vote for the DT member that you find the most underrepresented. Not the one you find most important. The one you find most underrepresented, i.e. the member you think is the farthest below the percentage he deserves.
Unless I am mistaken, given enough votes the poll should settle on the average user's ranking.

Pretty-please, play along. Because if it works it could be a way for us to do rankings with regular polls, which would be wicked cool.

To walk you through an example, I voted first and voted JP. Why? Because my personal ranking say he has the biggest influence on DT's sound (I put him at about 45% I think). But, he had 0% in the poll. So, he was the most underrepresented, being off by 45%-0% = 45%.
EDIT: It might make sense to write down your personal percentages first. Then compare against the current standing. Vote for the one with the biggest negative difference.

rumborak

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:00:04 AM »

So we're basically voting to get the poll to what we feel the results should be (in our own opinion)? Am I interpreting that correctly?

Just want to make sure I get it, because it sounds like an interesting idea.

rumborak · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:01:58 AM »

Yeah, you try to vote the member up who you think is most under the percentage he should have. I edited the OP explaining why I voted JP on my vote.

rumborak

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:03:16 AM »

Ok. Voted for JR. I think he has the second biggest influence musically, so thought I'd get the ball rolling there.

rumborak · « **Reply #4 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:04:18 AM »

Cool, yeah, that vote makes sense. JP had 100% (too high), JR had 0%, so you wanted to vote for JR. Excellent!

rumborak

mrjazzguitar · « **Reply #5 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:14:08 AM »

JP should be at like 70-80% so I voted for him.

rumborak · « **Reply #6 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:15:42 AM »

This seems to be coming along nicely. Excellent!!

rumborak

RuRoRul · « **Reply #7 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:17:16 AM »

Am I the only one who can't View Results without voting in this poll?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:17:45 AM »

Hopefully this gets a big enough sample size to get a clear result. Really neat idea.

rumborak · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:18:59 AM »

Quote from: RuRoRul on September 18, 2011, 11:17:16 AM

Am I the only one who can't View Results without voting in this poll?

Really? Anybody else have this problem? I set the poll to "view results to everyone".

rumborak

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:20:18 AM »

There should be a "view results" just under the poll so you can see it. It worked fine for me.

RuRoRul · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:21:24 AM »

:facepalm:I missed the button on the new skin

Never mind, it's set correctly.

rumborak · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:22:15 AM »

Cool. I also edited the OP to say that.

rumborak

InertSolo · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:23:45 AM »

Voted JP to get him more in his range of overall importance to the band (closer to 45-50%)

rumborak · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:23:53 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 18, 2011, 11:17:45 AM

Hopefully this gets a big enough sample size to get a clear result. Really neat idea.

It would make all those Survivor threads soooo much easier

We just need to give this style of polling a label, you put it into the thread title then, and you got a ranking poll.

rumborak

rumborak · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:25:40 AM »

Quote from: InertSolo on September 18, 2011, 11:23:45 AM

Voted JP to get him more in his range of overall importance to the band (closer to 45-50%)

All the other members are closer than that to their intended percentage? (just making sure

)

rumborak

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:27:58 AM »

Neat idea, rumby! I voted JP.

InertSolo · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:31:36 AM »

Quote from: rumborak on September 18, 2011, 11:25:40 AM

Quote from: InertSolo on September 18, 2011, 11:23:45 AM
Voted JP to get him more in his range of overall importance to the band (closer to 45-50%)

All the other members are closer than that to their intended percentage? (just making sure )

rumborak

Well, at the time of my vote I felt the rankings were pretty spot on. A rough sketch of my projected percentages would probably be:

JP: 45%
JR: 25%
JLB: 20%
JM: 10%
MM: 0% (for now of course, he is not an integral part of their sound by any stretch of the imagination)

wasteland · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:47:03 AM »

That's a really cool idea, rumborak! This way of conducting polls should really carry on in the future!

I voted JLB. To me he has been and still is very important in shaping and keeping the "DT sound", even though his actual musical imput has always been quite slim.

My percentages were:

JP 35%
JR 25%
JLB 25%
JM 10% (absolutely love the guy, but he has never been extremely prominent in the sound - though his contribution were always masterful)
MM 05% (at the moment)

I saw James percentage was only 11.1% and went with him.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:51:19 AM »

Ok, MM has as many votes as JLB and JR. Some people aren't quite getting it..........

rumborak · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:54:02 AM »

The vote numbers are still quite low. This could just be regular fluctuation. Because from the responses here people seem to have gotten it.

rumborak

Lowdz · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:00:11 PM »

JP was at 30 odd% so voted JP.

j · « **Reply #22 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:06:40 PM »

This is a good idea. Hopefully most people will understand what to do, I think rumbo made it pretty clear in his OP.

Voting now.

-J

senecadawg2 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:16:28 PM »

My percentages:

JP-30
JR- 25
JLB- 30
JM- 10
MM- 5

I voted JLB

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:17:24 PM »

Quote from: j on September 18, 2011, 12:06:40 PM

Hopefully most people will understand what to do, I think rumbo made it pretty clear in his OP.

Yes, he did. However, if experience teaches anything, multiple people will screw it up anyway.

Frank · « **Reply #25 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:48:54 PM »

Interesting idea here. Voted JR, since he was a bit behind.

If this idea works perhaps it can be done on an album by album basis - "Music importance rating of the members on Images and Words" i.e. who was most influential in creating the distinct sounds of each album?

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #26 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:57:11 PM »

Voted JLB. He's at least as important to the DT sound as JR is. I might argue that he's more important (for me at least) but I can live with him being equal to JR.

Global Laziness · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2011, 03:14:51 PM »

JP: 35%
JR: 25% (upvoted JR)
JM: 15%
JLB: 15%
MM: 10%

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 18, 2011, 03:21:51 PM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 18, 2011, 12:17:24 PM

Quote from: j on September 18, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
Hopefully most people will understand what to do, I think rumbo made it pretty clear in his OP.
Yes, he did. However, if experience teaches anything, multiple people will screw it up anyway.

Amen.

When I voted I picked JP.

Herrick · « **Reply #29 on:** September 18, 2011, 04:06:31 PM »

Ok mangs, I just want to make sure I get this right. I think the Petrucci, Rudess, & LaBrie are the top contributors to the Sound. Myung is The Mang, but I don't think their song-writing or Sound would be impacted that much if he left, Crom Forbid. My own percentages would be this:

Petrucci: 40%
Ruddess: 35%
LaBrie: 25%

So I should vote for LaBrie, yes?

Edit: Actually, LaBrie is at 16% and Rudess is at 21% so that means I should vote for Rudess, yes?

erik16 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 18, 2011, 05:00:28 PM »

Voted JR to get his percentage closer to 25. JP should have 35% and the rest I'm not sure.

Metabog · « **Reply #31 on:** September 18, 2011, 06:02:11 PM »

JP? Under represented?

j · « **Reply #32 on:** September 18, 2011, 06:26:27 PM »

Quote from: Metabog on September 18, 2011, 06:02:11 PM

JP? Under represented?

Lol. Whoosh.

-J

obscure · « **Reply #33 on:** September 18, 2011, 06:34:14 PM »

although I think it's JP, my huge love for JLB didn't let me vote for him....

Chico · « **Reply #34 on:** September 18, 2011, 06:40:00 PM »

JR owns this motherfucking record, end of.

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Author Topic: "Musical importance" rating of the members (also, a poll experiment, read post!) (Read 4749 times)