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Who's Iced Earth's best Singer?

Gene Adam
1 (1%)
John Greely
0 (0%)
Matt Barlow
67 (69.1%)
Tim "Ripper" Owens
12 (12.4%)
Stu Block
11 (11.3%)
Comedy Option: Jon Schaffer
6 (6.2%)

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #210 on: April 12, 2010, 04:38:19 PM »
What's this? Ticket sales creates an income for the band? They have to pay taxes on their income? They have to pay the federal government to play a show about how bad the federal government is?

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #211 on: April 12, 2010, 04:41:02 PM »
Poor Jon...

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« Reply #212 on: April 12, 2010, 06:03:07 PM »
Fuck, Sons of Liberty is so awful.

I've given up hope that we'll every see another great IE release.
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« Reply #213 on: April 12, 2010, 06:22:34 PM »
I'm sure we will someday. It may just be a long time before it happens. Whether or not Iced Earth will be touring again is what I'm wondering.
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #214 on: April 12, 2010, 07:12:49 PM »
SONS OF LIBERTY FTW  :metal
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #215 on: April 12, 2010, 08:13:17 PM »
Matt Barlow is my preferred vocalist, although I think "Ripper" Owens did a pretty decent job too.

My favorite Iced Earth album is "Burnt Offerings".

And I have listened to Jon's "Son's of Liberty" project. As much as I agree with the message that the federal government has been grossly violating The Constitution for many decades and needs to be completely reformatted, the lyrics to songs such as "We the People" are particularly weak. I would have preferred for there to be more allegory than cheesy 80s-style lyrics.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #216 on: April 13, 2010, 06:37:17 AM »
I think Sons of Liberty is great.

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« Reply #217 on: April 13, 2010, 07:43:40 AM »
I have yet to make it through a full Sons of Liberty song.  Those songs do nothing for me on an emotional, intellectual, or even simply "headbanging" level.

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« Reply #218 on: April 13, 2010, 07:59:40 AM »
I'd be indifferent to them if they weren't propagating ignorance.
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #219 on: April 13, 2010, 08:39:36 AM »
Well, I can't imagine Jon Schaffer writing a heavy metal album which encourages people to inform themselves and take moderate positions on actual issues the nation is facing, because that would be about as fun as an unbiased musical appraisal of the Stem Cell Research debate.   

Sons of Liberty sounds like Schaffer trying to write a prequel to the Something Wicked stuff without referencing the aliens.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #220 on: April 13, 2010, 10:39:00 AM »
Quiet fool! He might be reading this! The last thing we need is a prequel back story of the humans before they get to Earth.

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« Reply #221 on: April 13, 2010, 10:48:36 AM »
Well, I can't imagine Jon Schaffer writing a heavy metal album which encourages people to inform themselves and take moderate positions on actual issues the nation is facing, because that would be about as fun as an unbiased musical appraisal of the Stem Cell Research debate.   

Sons of Liberty sounds like Schaffer trying to write a prequel to the Something Wicked stuff without referencing the aliens.

I wouldn't mind that much if it was just political beliefs.  At the end of the day, I can live with a song about ending the Federal Reserve (if it's good, mind you), because at the end of the day, it's a just as valid political belief.  But I can't live with him writing a song about how the Federal Reserve engineers economic collapses to destroy the middle class.
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« Reply #222 on: April 13, 2010, 03:42:16 PM »
I'd be indifferent to them if they weren't propagating ignorance.

With lyrics like "educate yourself". Not sure how that makes sense.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #223 on: April 13, 2010, 06:53:44 PM »
Schaffer could probably benefit from getting info he doesn't make-up himself, that's for sure.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #224 on: April 14, 2010, 12:32:19 PM »
Quiet fool! He might be reading this! The last thing we need is a prequel back story of the humans before they get to Earth.
:lol My god, that'd be terrible.
I felt its length in quite a few places.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #225 on: April 14, 2010, 11:15:43 PM »
I'd be indifferent to them if they weren't propagating ignorance.

With lyrics like "educate yourself". Not sure how that makes sense.

I think there's a little more context to an entire albums lyrics than just two words. Come on.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #226 on: April 15, 2010, 04:54:29 PM »
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #227 on: April 15, 2010, 07:10:25 PM »
You get what you payed for.
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #228 on: April 15, 2010, 07:16:27 PM »
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #229 on: April 15, 2010, 07:49:18 PM »
I felt its length in quite a few places.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #230 on: April 16, 2010, 02:56:37 PM »
A bit of news:

Quote from: Johnny Z of Brazil Under Ice Forums
Jon had been talked with me today, so here are the main points:

- DVD will be out later in the year.
- SOL will be out in July, then DVD, then new IE in spring 2011.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #231 on: April 16, 2010, 03:32:50 PM »
I'm actually glad he's doing SOL, not that I have to listen to it. Now all his horrible anti-gov songs won't be iced earth.

Keep it up john. Take all your lame generic ideas, throw them into SOL. Make sure all your good writing goes to iced earth though.


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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #232 on: April 16, 2010, 03:38:50 PM »
ICED EARTH SURVIVOR ROUND 3 IS ONLINE.

Also, STOP MAKING ALL CHORUSES HAVE 10000 LAYERS OF VOCALS!

He's clearly jealous of Hansi. Ever since Demons & Wizards, Jon has been trying to emulate Blind Guardian's choir sound in some way.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #233 on: April 16, 2010, 03:43:22 PM »
Well rippers voice wasn't as huge as borlow, and it worked well for him. However, Barlows voice does not need that many layers, it's really strong. Sure, sometimes it sounds really cool, but it sounds much less cool if you ALWAYS do it.
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #234 on: April 16, 2010, 03:53:29 PM »
Yeah The Crucible of Man was way too layered when it shouldn't have been. The layers did sound awesome with Ripper though, especially on The Domino Decree. On songs like Sacrificial Kingdoms, the double layers sounded off. I miss old Iced Earth. Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

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« Reply #235 on: April 16, 2010, 03:58:13 PM »
Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

Wait what? Really?

Oh my god, is Jon dying or something?
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #236 on: April 16, 2010, 04:27:44 PM »
Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

Wait what? Really?

Oh my god, is Jon dying or something?

Yeah I read it somewhere, but now I can't remember or find what it was from. I watched and read a lot of interviews with him last year. Plus, he let Matt write half of TCoM, which is Jon's big story so I think he's starting to see the light.

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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #237 on: April 16, 2010, 04:28:42 PM »
Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

Their working on an album right now? I had no idea.
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« Reply #238 on: April 16, 2010, 04:38:53 PM »
Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

Wait what? Really?

Oh my god, is Jon dying or something?

Yeah I read it somewhere, but now I can't remember or find what it was from. I watched and read a lot of interviews with him last year. Plus, he let Matt write half of TCoM, which is Jon's big story so I think he's starting to see the light.

Well lyrically, yea. But I assume this time the bassist and other guitarist will have an actual say? I don't think that's been done since  Dark Saga. Unless you count 1 riff in Im-ho-tep.
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #239 on: April 16, 2010, 04:40:30 PM »
Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

Their working on an album right now? I had no idea.



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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2010, 04:44:10 PM »
Jon said he's giving the other members A LOT more creative input on this new album, so we might have a pretty kickin' album.

Wait what? Really?

Oh my god, is Jon dying or something?

Yeah I read it somewhere, but now I can't remember or find what it was from. I watched and read a lot of interviews with him last year. Plus, he let Matt write half of TCoM, which is Jon's big story so I think he's starting to see the light.

Well lyrically, yea. But I assume this time the bassist and other guitarist will have an actual say? I don't think that's been done since  Dark Saga. Unless you count 1 riff in Im-ho-tep.

James MacDonough wrote the fast section in Reaping Stone. Maybe Jon was jealous of Randy Shawver too...

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« Reply #241 on: April 16, 2010, 04:46:26 PM »
James wrote that? I had no idea. Awesome.

Also, they need to get Randy back on lead guitar (or at least someone who can write tastefully and can contribute more than just a solo per song) and James back on bass. Brent can stay, he's cool.
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« Reply #242 on: April 16, 2010, 05:48:36 PM »
Don't diss Freddie.  He's awesome.
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« Reply #243 on: April 16, 2010, 06:04:17 PM »
Don't diss Freddie.  He's awesome.

Which one's freddie?
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Re: The Official Iced Earth Thread
« Reply #244 on: April 16, 2010, 06:41:14 PM »
The bassist. He's more enthusiastic about Iced Earth than Jon.