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Officially, we were not going to allow discussion until Monday.  However, since the entire album is now legally streaming on Roadrunner Germany, there is no point in banning discussion.  For now, keep all discussion of the album in this thread.  Thanks.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2011, 07:52:23 AM by bosk1 »
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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2011, 04:09:29 AM »
Looks like a leak, but a legit leak. 

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 04:10:01 AM »
Not really a leak, the album has been officially released in Germany.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 04:19:07 AM »
Looks like a leak, but a legit leak. 

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Its from RR page...so it's official

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 04:22:44 AM »
*waits to hear the verdict on whether this is ok to post or not*

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 04:29:22 AM »
How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 04:48:49 AM »
:tup
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 04:50:02 AM »
Woah. Listening now, lol at a "leak" that we can talk about.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 04:50:38 AM »
How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

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Agreed! And after the dust has settled, we may just find that it's even stronger than 6DOIT.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 04:52:27 AM »
How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

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Agreed! And after the dust has settled, we may just find that it's even stronger than 6DOIT.

Let's not get silly. SDOIT is untouchable.
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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2011, 04:53:25 AM »
How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

rumborak


Agreed! And after the dust has settled, we may just find that it's even stronger than 6DOIT.

Let's not get silly. SDOIT is untouchable.

No, it isn't.
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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2011, 04:54:13 AM »
OMG Bridges In The Sky....this chorus is so addicting  :metal

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2011, 04:54:56 AM »
How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

rumborak


Agreed! And after the dust has settled, we may just find that it's even stronger than 6DOIT.

Let's not get silly. SDOIT is untouchable.

No, it isn't.

Yeah it is.

Two can play at that game! In fact, two have to play at that game.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2011, 04:59:03 AM »
OMG Bridges In The Sky....this chorus is so addicting  :metal

Outcry's chorus is better, although barely. But still...

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COME SHINE MY WAY
MAAAAAY HEALING WATERS BURY ALL MY PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN


How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

rumborak


Agreed! And after the dust has settled, we may just find that it's even stronger than 6DOIT.

Let's not get silly. SDOIT is untouchable.

No, it isn't.

Yeah it is.

Two can play at that game! In fact, two have to play at that game.

But three can also play... SDOIT is touchable.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2011, 05:00:18 AM »
After listening to the album at least 5 times, I maintain that the highs in this album are really high old-DT highs and the lows are average modern-DT lows. Best songs are Lost Not Forgotten, Bridges in the Sky and Breaking All Illusions.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2011, 05:02:06 AM »
What I really like about the album is that they finally dared things again. There is some sick stuff in there that I have not fully digested yet, and that's an effect that I haven't had essentially since SFAM or 6DOIT.
And, there's some really fresh chord progressions in there.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2011, 05:09:18 AM »
What I really like about the album is that they finally dared things again. There is some sick stuff in there that I have not fully digested yet, and that's an effect that I haven't had essentially since SFAM or 6DOIT.
And, there's some really fresh chord progressions in there.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2011, 05:12:26 AM »

Let's not get silly. SDOIT is untouchable.

This.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2011, 05:38:15 AM »
Beneath The Surface makes me want to shed manly tears :'(

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2011, 05:41:05 AM »
I think i may be the only person on the planet (whos heard this album a few times) who doesnt like it! Nothing seems memorable to me and some parts make me cringe. I wish they had recorded the album with Mangini after the tour and let him run a bit more wild on the tracks, its like every drum pattern seems a bit bland and i think 'where is the Mangini i saw live a few weeks ago?' then i hear a little run on the octobans and think is that it!
To me it does seem like there is something missing... Maybe i will miss Portnoys influence afterall?
Almost every part of every song sounds like or is the same formula as parts in past albums almost like left over riffs, sounds like Ive heard this all before but not in a nice familiar way.
Seems like a lot of the rhythm guitar is just chugging on the same lowest note which was awesome on songs like The Mirror, but seems overdone and a bit boring on this album.

Whilst i like JLBs solo albums - you could describe them as sounding a little like Dream Theater but with something missing... This is how the new DT album sounds to me.

Im sorry to sound so negative but i guess with all the great reviews DT must take the rough with the smooth HOWEVER this is definitely not my final opinion on this album, we should all review the album again in 6 months, as all the albums have taken a while to sink in. Im trying not to get caught up in all the hype with the new Machinehead album also as the reviews of that have also said album of the year material.

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2011, 05:44:32 AM »
This album is sick. Easily their best since SDOIT. This is like SFAM all over again except it's not a concept album. So much going on these songs, very proggy and technical with beautiful melodies. Not a single bad song, they're all really good or great.  Mangini is great but I still prefer MP's drumming.

Overall grade:  A+

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2011, 05:51:25 AM »
How can it not be ok anymore? If RR themselves release the album to the public?

Ok, I'll say it first: DT are back. baby. This is their strongest since 6DOIT.

rumborak


OK you're saying it, but not first. But it is awesome.

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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2011, 05:56:34 AM »
AOTY.

Every song is just fantastic.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2011, 05:58:26 AM »
Best songs are Lost Not Forgotten

Uhm...no way man.
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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2011, 05:59:51 AM »
Why not? LNF is pretty damn awesome.

Actually they all are.

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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2011, 06:00:36 AM »
I know the Muse thing is a contentious topic but I totally get a knights of cydonia feel from Lost Not Forgotten (the beginning). While definitely not a rip off at all...I just get thy vibe. This song and BAI are definite favorites! Totally amazing album. I've spun the disc many times and it gets even better with every listen. DT are back.

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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2011, 06:02:06 AM »
Why not? LNF is pretty damn awesome.


LNF is quite possibly my favourite. :tup
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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2011, 06:03:39 AM »
LNF has got the epic piano intro, blistering epicness, crazy grooves, soaring vocals. Totally amazing song.

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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2011, 06:05:34 AM »
I have a feeling this will take a few listens to really grasp.

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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2011, 06:05:46 AM »
Loading now, very excite.
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Re: Listen to the whole album now
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2011, 06:11:52 AM »
Breaking All Illusions is definitely a top 10 DT song.

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« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2011, 06:13:30 AM »
Breaking All Illusions is definitely a top 10 DT song.
Agreed!

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« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2011, 06:14:16 AM »
I'm going to wait for the official UK release on Monday. For now I'll just tide myself over by reading these comments. (of which are making me very excited!)

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« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2011, 06:14:17 AM »
Breaking All Illusions is definitely a top 10 DT song.

It sounds like a modern day LtL. Especially the first verse  :hefdaddy
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