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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2011, 08:12:30 AM »
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2011, 08:43:19 AM »
Spiritual means you follow your own rules.  Religious means you follow someone else's rules.
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2011, 11:10:34 AM »
"Religion" comes from the Latin religare - "to bind."  It refers to a strict set of rules, regulations, and doctrines.  Therefore, it is perfectly OK to be spiritual, even spiritually Christian, without being religious.

Whereas spiritis means "to breath", which implies to be an essence to be given and taken from outside yourself, be it God, nature, or the essence of your fellows(love).



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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2011, 02:44:28 PM »
Spiritual means you follow your own rules.  Religious means you follow someone else's rules.

That's kind of how I see it. Not necessarily in a negative way though. Religion stems from spirituality and takes form in prayer, worship and rules and regulations that are decided for you (not to say that they aren't good rules, just that they're predetermined) whereas spirituality is more the basic essence that you feel individually. So in that respect, it's perfectly reasonable for people to describe themselves as spiritual but not religious. Those are just my definitions of the words though.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2011, 05:06:49 PM »
As a Christian, I always thought that to be religious was to follow rules and have your actions based on these rules without any true spiritual connection to God.  Where Spirituality is to have a one on one connection with God and having your actions flow out of that.  So, Religion is to follow with your body while your head controls, Spirituality to follow with your soul while your heart controls. 

*I just made that last sentence up, so it may be pretty baloney-ous.

*I also made that last word up.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2011, 07:15:24 PM »
I love baloney-ous.
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2011, 07:42:42 PM »
It's BALOGNA.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2011, 10:45:04 PM »
I really don't care.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2011, 12:35:26 PM »
It's BALOGNA.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2011, 12:49:16 PM »
When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2011, 01:30:06 PM »
When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

Well that's a rather harsh view.
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2011, 01:56:06 PM »
When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

you mean our largely christian nation?

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2011, 01:56:39 PM »
When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

I think pretty much the opposite; to me being spiritual means you deal with all those difficult questions and think about all the things that are at the core of religion (higher power, morality etc etc) just leave out the prayer/community/consigning yourself to a labelled demographic (not to say that any of those things are fluffy or feelgood qualities as you mentioned). That's how I see it anyway, and I know you said you don't mean everyone just most, but I think most people are the way I described. Guess it could just be a difference between America and Britain  :P

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2011, 02:12:24 PM »
When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

I think pretty much the opposite; to me being spiritual means you deal with all those difficult questions and think about all the things that are at the core of religion (higher power, morality etc etc) just leave out the prayer/community/consigning yourself to a labelled demographic (not to say that any of those things are fluffy or feelgood qualities as you mentioned). That's how I see it anyway, and I know you said you don't mean everyone just most, but I think most people are the way I described. Guess it could just be a difference between America and Britain  :P
I have a habit of coming across like a dick even when I don't mean to. My description is based on my interactions with people around me and it certainly doesn't apply to everyone.

When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

you mean our largely christian nation?
Unfortunately, yes.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2011, 02:19:58 PM »
Well you also live in California right?


In which case, yea I'd agree with your definition considering the people I've met in Cali.
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2011, 02:23:03 PM »
When people say they're spiritual but not religious it suggests to me that they want to hold on to the fluffy, feel-good qualities of religion without grappling with the difficult questions that usually accompany embracing a religious or philosophical view. I know this doesn't describe all spiritual people, but I think it fits most people in modern America.

I think pretty much the opposite; to me being spiritual means you deal with all those difficult questions and think about all the things that are at the core of religion (higher power, morality etc etc) just leave out the prayer/community/consigning yourself to a labelled demographic (not to say that any of those things are fluffy or feelgood qualities as you mentioned). That's how I see it anyway, and I know you said you don't mean everyone just most, but I think most people are the way I described. Guess it could just be a difference between America and Britain  :P
I have a habit of coming across like a dick even when I don't mean to. My description is based on my interactions with people around me and it certainly doesn't apply to everyone.

You didn't come across as a dick to me, I just think you've judged a lot of people due to your own experiences of those around you. Just reminding you that not everyone's like that  ;)

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2011, 02:49:27 PM »
Well you also live in California right?
Unfortunately, yes.


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In which case, yea I'd agree with your definition considering the people I've met in Cali.
There's a good amount of diversity here. But the coffee-sipping progressive types are who I have in mind.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2011, 02:53:14 PM »
those goddamned progressives and their fucking goddamn coffee

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2011, 03:11:56 PM »
those goddamned progressives and their fucking goddamn coffee
I know, right? I don't dislike the sipping of coffee, but judging by your response I think I captured the essence of the people I was describing.

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2011, 03:42:43 PM »
those goddamned progressives and their fucking goddamn coffee
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2011, 03:43:45 PM »
Progressives?

I like some of their ideas, but I'd take them a lot more seriously if they actually did shit. 

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2011, 07:24:02 PM »
Progressives are what happened when politicians stopped making 3 page bills about the economy and started making 3000 page bills about nothing whatsoever.
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2011, 04:28:45 PM »
  So that makes where I live what? (Berkeley, Ca)

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2011, 09:17:16 PM »
I have a habit of coming across like a dick even when I don't mean to.

Well, having met you in person, I can definitely say that I have no idea whether that is how you mean to come across or not.
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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2011, 10:30:37 PM »
Rumby, does the girls in their profile who write the title of this thread complement their description with a "I suck but I don't swallow" punchline?

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Re: "I'm spiritual, but not religious."
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2011, 11:48:32 PM »
I have a habit of coming across like a dick even when I don't mean to.

Well, having met you in person, I can definitely say that I have no idea whether that is how you mean to come across or not.
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