Coheed and Cambria v. Second Stage

[Phoenix87x]

I really don't care if it's conceptual or not. I just want the terrible songwriting of the last album to be gone.
The Afterman albums were phenomenal except for the last few tracks on Descension which were just ok. What happened?

Agreed. Last album sucked big time. Total dog shit. Just give me good songs

[Train of Naught]

Domino the Destitute, which for me holds the crown for most overrated Coheed song!

oh you're serious

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

I really don't care if it's conceptual or not. I just want the terrible songwriting of the last album to be gone.
The Afterman albums were phenomenal except for the last few tracks on Descension which were just ok. What happened?

Agreed. Last album sucked big time. Just give me good songs

Yeah, their last album was complete garbage. I think I rated it a 3/10. Still looking forward to the new one.

[Crow]

Y'all it wasn't -that- bad

A step down from their previous albums to be sure but it had some solid tunes

[twosuitsluke]

Domino the Destitute, which for me holds the crown for most overrated Coheed song!

oh you're serious

Totally! I mean I love this band, and probably consider them my fave band of all time, but Domino is not even in my top 30 Coheed songs. It's fine and I don't hate it but for me it's nothing special and they have SO many superior songs!

Y'all it wasn't -that- bad

A step down from their previous albums to be sure but it had some solid tunes

Basically.

[busty sinclair]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zm1_JSPOQ&feature=youtu.be

first track is up!

[Bertie_Wooster]

https://youtu.be/T3zm1_JSPOQ

[Crow]

literally only a few threads down on the same page
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25333.0

[Ben_Jamin]

You guys are insane....Domino is an amazing song. Shame they never really played it live at all.

[twosuitsluke]

You guys are insane....Domino is an amazing song. Shame they never really played it live at all.

It's up there with Al the Killer, when it comes to overrated Coheed songs imo.

[Crow]

man it sure is a good thing you aren't playing in my roulette because i'd have to kick you out if you were

[twosuitsluke]

I'm sure I would've done a stellar job and got myself kicked.

But seriously, Al the Killer is a middling Coheed song at best. I love this band, and all their albums, so even their middling songs are better than most bands best.

We all have those songs though right? The sort that, when played live, the crowd goes nuts for and you're just like "This song, really? I'd rather hear *lists ten songs off the top of your head that you'd rather hear*".

[Train of Naught]

Selkies: The Endless Obsession

Is probably the most overrated biti bam song

[jakepriest]

Selkies: The Endless Obsession

Is probably the most overrated biti bam song

You mean the only listenable song.

[Nick]

I know we have a brand new song to talk about and such, but I'm going to push that off to simply say that Domino is absolutely one of their best songs.

[twosuitsluke]

So yeah, new song!

I like it, it feels like pre-YotBR Coheed again. I really need to listen to the lyrics properly but it fills me with great hope and I'm sure it's going to be better than their last. I assume this will be the first track. I normally prefer an intro to be separate from the actual song, I don't want to get bored of the intro and want to skip it to get to the actual song.

Either way, I am super pumped for this.

[jakepriest]

Sounds very similar to Domino. Need a few more listens to decide whether I like it or not (as with any Coheed song honestly, I don't think there's been a single one that clicked on first listen  )

[twosuitsluke]

Need a few more listens to decide whether I like it or not (as with any Coheed song honestly, I don't think there's been a single one that clicked on first listen  )

Same.

I think Welcome Home (being the first Coheed and Cambria song I ever heard) and Dark Side of Me are the only ones that clicked on first listen.

[Crow]

Domino is one of the best Coheed songs yeah 

[Aefenwelg]

So yeah, new song!

I like it, it feels like pre-YotBR Coheed again. I really need to listen to the lyrics properly but it fills me with great hope and I'm sure it's going to be better than their last. I assume this will be the first track. I normally prefer an intro to be separate from the actual song, I don't want to get bored of the intro and want to skip it to get to the actual song.

Either way, I am super pumped for this.

I've seen evidence around that the Prologue is indeed going to be a separate track.

[Train of Naught]

It's a pretty good song on first listen, but < Domino the Destitute

I'm going to use Domino the Destitute as a measurement tool for everything now

Selkies: The Endless Obsession

Is probably the most overrated biti bam song

You mean the only listenable song.

Yeah when you listen to like 5 bands obviously

[jakepriest]

Selkies: The Endless Obsession

Is probably the most overrated biti bam song

You mean the only listenable song.

Yeah when you listen to like 5 bands obviously

fuck off Parama

[Crow]

Selkies: The Endless Obsession

Is probably the most overrated biti bam song

You mean the only listenable song.

Yeah when you listen to like 5 bands obviously

fuck off Parama

no

Train your next roulette now requires a scoring system based off of domino

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Selkies: The Endless Obsession

Is probably the most overrated biti bam song

You mean the only listenable song.

Yeah when you listen to like 5 bands obviously

fuck off Parama

no

Train your next roulette now requires a scoring system based off of domino

You should call it the Domino Decimal System 

[Phoenix87x]

New song: The gutter

not bad. I dig it.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/listen-to-new-coheed-and-cambria-song-the-gutter/

[twosuitsluke]

The new album is out in 9 days and is going to be on heavy repeat (along with the new Black Peaks, released the same day). In the spirit of a new album, getting to know it and ranking it, here is my ranking of all C&C's albums:

1. Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume I: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
2. Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume II: No World for Tomorrow
3. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
4. Second Stage Turbine Blade
5. Afterman: Descension
6. Year of the Black Rainbow
7. Afterman: Ascension
8. Color Before the Sun

Let's be honest they're all great. I'm a little sad that CBtS hasn't had much staying power in the 3 years since it's release.

[jakepriest]

Here's mine:
1. Second Stage Turbine Blade
2. Good Apollo I.
3. Afterman: Ascension
4. IKSoSE:3
5. Afterman: Descension
6. Good Apollo II.
7. YOTBR
8. CBtS

Also, the new track "Old Flames" is really fun. Gonna be glorious live for sure.

[Crow]

1. IKS
2-8. Not IKS

but no i'm pretty excited for the new one, the singles have all ranged from solid to excellent so far

[Phoenix87x]

I love all their albums except for color before the sun. They dropped the ball with that album, but their track record up to that point was solid, so I won't hold it against them.

And its looks like they are back on track, so its all good.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

1. IKS
2-8. Not IKS

but no i'm pretty excited for the new one, the singles have all ranged from solid to excellent so far

Pretty much this except

1. IKS
2-7. Not IKS or CBtS
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8. CbTS

[Ben_Jamin]

I must be weird then...

1-2. The Afterman
3. Good Apollo Volume 1.
4. Year Of The Black Rainbow
5. Good Apollo Volume 2.
6. IKS
7. TCBTS
8. Second Stage (not really into this style, though it still has some good songs.)

[425]

I liked The Color Before the Sun, but Year of the Black Rainbow does nothing for me at all.

1. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
2. Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
3. The Afterman: Descension
4. Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow
5. The Afterman: Ascension
6. The Color Before the Sun
7. The Second Stage Turbine Blade
8. Year of the Black Rainbow

[Metro]

1. Good Apollo Vol.1
2. In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
3. The Afterman: Descension
4. The Second Stage Turbine Blade
5. The Afterman: Ascension
6. Good Apollo Vol.2
7. The Color Before the Sun
8. Year of the Black Rainbow

[twosuitsluke]

So super hyped for this new album! It's going to be pretty much on constant repeat over the next week I reckon.

As my favourite band they've never really let me down (although TCBtS was a bit of a low point) and I can't wait to see what the return to the concept will bring. I just never tire of C&C. Period.

I'm trying not to overplay the singles as I want the album to feel fresh, it's tough though. Anyone got a copy yet? I know some people have received their pre-order or found a shop selling it early. Jealous! I'll have to wait for Spotify as my pre-order has been delayed.

[ZKX-2099]

It's good. Better than the last for sure.