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« Reply #5285 on: September 12, 2017, 09:48:50 AM »
Rogue One was also pretty rife with references. It might just be a studio thing at this point.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5286 on: September 12, 2017, 09:52:32 AM »
JJ has been a derivative hack in everything I've seen from him, so I won't give him the benefit of the doubt here. :lol But hopefully slightly less of a derivative hack this time assuming TLJ sends it in a slightly different direction.

Rogue One was also pretty rife with references. It might just be a studio thing at this point.

Oh there's definitely some studio involvement there. I think some things were already set for TFA before JJ even started. And it was probably part of the reworking of Rogue One. That stuff is fun to a degree when it's incidental, but when it gets too coincidental, it takes me out of it a bit. Like pig man happening to be on that planet in Rogue One just before it explodes.
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« Reply #5287 on: September 12, 2017, 10:01:03 AM »
Hack, fake, better version of Brett Rattner, whatever.. I don't care what he's referred to. I enjoy his movies, I think he makes them entertaining.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5288 on: September 12, 2017, 10:03:02 AM »
JJ has been a derivative hack in everything I've seen from him, so I won't give him the benefit of the doubt here. :lol But hopefully slightly less of a derivative hack this time assuming TLJ sends it in a slightly different direction.

Rogue One was also pretty rife with references. It might just be a studio thing at this point.

Oh there's definitely some studio involvement there. I think some things were already set for TFA before JJ even started. And it was probably part of the reworking of Rogue One. That stuff is fun to a degree when it's incidental, but when it gets too coincidental, it takes me out of it a bit. Like pig man happening to be on that planet in Rogue One just before it explodes.

I hope Pigman gets his own spinoff movie. He can be played by John C Riley.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5289 on: September 12, 2017, 10:05:37 AM »
I hope Pigman gets his own spinoff movie. He can be played by John C Riley.

:lol That is some inspired casting.
I'm sure he'll be all over the Han Solo movie.
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« Reply #5290 on: September 12, 2017, 10:10:28 AM »
I should add, I don't even want him in any make up. I just want John C. Riley as himself speaking in his own voice. I also want Pigman to be his official name.
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« Reply #5291 on: September 12, 2017, 10:11:48 AM »
I am on board with every single one of these ideas.
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« Reply #5292 on: September 12, 2017, 10:12:31 AM »
I should add, I don't even want him in any make up. I just want John C. Riley as himself speaking in his own voice. I also want Pigman to be his official name.

That's asking quite a lot, but hey, send your suggestions to Lucasfilm, see what they say.

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« Reply #5293 on: September 12, 2017, 10:36:29 AM »
I think JJ is a good director, so I have no probelm with this.
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« Reply #5294 on: September 12, 2017, 11:22:37 AM »
I think JJ is a good director, so I have no probelm with this.

Ditto

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« Reply #5295 on: September 12, 2017, 11:31:04 AM »
On a side note, I looked up the dude who JJ is writing the movie with, and it's the same guy who did Batman v Superman. That makes me more nervous than JJ's involvement, but we'll see. :millahhhh
He also wrote Argo, for which he won an Oscar.

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« Reply #5296 on: September 12, 2017, 12:43:16 PM »
I think JJ is a good director, so I have no probelm with this.

Ditto

Agreed!

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« Reply #5297 on: September 12, 2017, 01:20:45 PM »
Yea have no problem with JJ returning.  :tup
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5298 on: September 12, 2017, 04:23:46 PM »
I think JJ is a good director, so I have no probelm with this.

Ditto

Agreed!

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Yea have no problem with JJ returning.  :tup

Same here. For as much crap as he gets/got for the whole "rehash" narrative.....the dude was put in a tough spot and managed to nail both vital aspects of the introduction of this new trilogy. Appeal to the 'old school' fans enough to keep them interested and provide a whole new set of heros for new fans to fall in love with. As I said....he nailed both.

Added bonus being that Kylo Ren is a fantastic 'bad guy' and was presented and portrayed very good.
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« Reply #5299 on: September 12, 2017, 04:37:57 PM »
I'm going to reserve my opinion on JJ's return until after I've seen the next film. If it blows TFA out of the water...
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5300 on: September 12, 2017, 05:06:24 PM »
I loved TFA and its my favorite behind Empire so I am more than happy to have JJ back.

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« Reply #5301 on: September 12, 2017, 05:09:09 PM »
I loved TFA and its my favorite behind Empire so I am more than happy to have JJ back.

As long as there's no ewoks, we good.

Personally I'm hoping for a spin off focusing on the long fabled Ewok/Porg war.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5302 on: September 12, 2017, 05:43:09 PM »
JJ has been a derivative hack in everything I've seen from him, so I won't give him the benefit of the doubt here. :lol But hopefully slightly less of a derivative hack this time assuming TLJ sends it in a slightly different direction.

Rogue One was also pretty rife with references. It might just be a studio thing at this point.

Oh there's definitely some studio involvement there. I think some things were already set for TFA before JJ even started. And it was probably part of the reworking of Rogue One. That stuff is fun to a degree when it's incidental, but when it gets too coincidental, it takes me out of it a bit. Like pig man happening to be on that planet in Rogue One just before it explodes.


Star Trek 2009 and Into Darkness were derivative of ST2:Wrath of Kahn. Whether that is studios, Abrams and/or him being a company guy is unknown.

Disney's choices to me point to them being safe, and playing up nostalgia with this franchise. They gutted Lucas' ideas for TFA. The director swaps and/or reshoots, or time extensions point to conflicting visions. Or visions too far off the beloved SW reservation. Not even attacking Lucas here- he did something different for the prequels. Whatever the opinion of them, he took a known conclusion and created a backstory that wasn't a reboot. So the Mouse rejects Lucas' consultation, reshoots chunks of Rouge One (and won't release them), removes two directors. And bring back a guy who did a New Hope pt.2.

So far then, we have; a beat-matched TFA, Rogue One which is based in episode 4-6 canon, a Han film based around ep4-6 canon, a rumored Fett film based on primarily 4-6 canon character, a ? in episode 8 but Driver already made the Empire comparison, and bringing back the beat-match master for 9. It seems to me then that Disney wants a franchise based in the episode 4-6 only world.

*sigh.* I'm not even into the characters of Disney's other cash-cow, the MCU. But Feige has been masterful there IMO.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5303 on: September 12, 2017, 07:15:05 PM »
If they ever wanted to get off the Episode 4-6 rehash train, I would love to see them do a Knights of the old republic film, or films.
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« Reply #5304 on: September 12, 2017, 07:26:59 PM »
If they ever wanted to get off the Episode 4-6 rehash train, I would love to see them do a Knights of the old republic film, or films.

As long as one of the characters is secretly Anakin's great great great grandmother or something silly.

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« Reply #5305 on: September 12, 2017, 09:17:00 PM »
So Star Wars has been moved from May or whatever to December.

Can they just admit that SW will be in December in general? Seeing all of their movies each independently delayed to the same month is getting dumb.
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« Reply #5306 on: September 13, 2017, 02:22:38 AM »
So Star Wars has been moved from May or whatever to December.

Can they just admit that SW will be in December in general? Seeing all of their movies each independently delayed to the same month is getting dumb.

I may be wrong but I thought that was already common knowledge, that it was clearly stated that we'd get movies every two years in December.

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« Reply #5307 on: September 13, 2017, 06:38:29 AM »
It was but episode nine was slated for a summer release in May. That's been moved now.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5308 on: September 13, 2017, 07:30:19 AM »
On a side note, I looked up the dude who JJ is writing the movie with, and it's the same guy who did Batman v Superman. That makes me more nervous than JJ's involvement, but we'll see. :millahhhh
He also wrote Argo, for which he won an Oscar.
Ah, good call! I don't mean to sound like too much of a downer. I think that the worst case scenario is we get an enjoyable, fun flick. Something on the level of Return of the Jedi, in my opinion.
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5309 on: September 13, 2017, 07:44:19 AM »
On a side note, I looked up the dude who JJ is writing the movie with, and it's the same guy who did Batman v Superman. That makes me more nervous than JJ's involvement, but we'll see. :millahhhh
He also wrote Argo, for which he won an Oscar.
Ah, good call! I don't mean to sound like too much of a downer. I think that the worst case scenario is we get an enjoyable, fun flick. Something on the level of Return of the Jedi, in my opinion.

So long as it isn't Return of Return of the Jedi.  Or Return of the Sith.
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« Reply #5310 on: September 13, 2017, 08:25:41 AM »
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« Reply #5311 on: September 13, 2017, 09:07:16 AM »
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« Reply #5312 on: September 13, 2017, 04:16:16 PM »
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Re: Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One
« Reply #5313 on: September 13, 2017, 04:53:09 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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