Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[Implode]

Okay, so x-wings, y-wings, etc.

The modern latin alphabet doesn't exist in Star Wars, so what the hell are these ships named after?

Edit: Oh, droids too. wtf

[Kotowboy]

They speak English too.

[T-ski]

Okay, so x-wings, y-wings, etc.

The modern latin alphabet doesn't exist in Star Wars, so what the hell are these ships named after?

Edit: Oh, droids too. wtf

look at the shape of the ships.

[BlobVanDam]

Okay, so x-wings, y-wings, etc.

The modern latin alphabet doesn't exist in Star Wars, so what the hell are these ships named after?

Edit: Oh, droids too. wtf

look at the shape of the ships.

I think the point is they've named ships after letters (or more accurately shapes of letters) that don't exist in that universe, since they use a different alphabet.
The only explanation I have is that "X" and "Y" are shapes in that universe, like square or circle, rather than referring to an actual alphabet. I'm sure there are probably droid names that contradict that, in which case I guess they could have a double meaning, even though that's a stretch.

[bosk1]

George Lucas gave us Jar-Jar, and "Sand is coarse and gets everywhere and sucks, not like you!"  And you're fixated on x-wing/y-wing?

[PowerSlave]

"Sand is coarse and gets everywhere and sucks, not like you!"

And how do we know she didn't?

[bosk1]

Because cows generally don't. 

[Implode]

You guys are no fun. 

George Lucas gave us Jar-Jar, and "Sand is coarse and gets everywhere and sucks, not like you!"  And you're fixated on x-wing/y-wing?

There are some things I like to ignore entirely.

[Kotowboy]

Question..

Do they specifically say X wings Y wings etc In The Actual Dialogue ?

[Logain Ablar]

That's a good question - I don't think so, at least I can't remember any particular line. Just more general stuff about "fighters" and that..

The scripts are on imsdb if you want to read through them:

https://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-A-New-Hope.html
https://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html
https://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Return-of-the-Jedi.html

[pogoowner]

"Lord Vader, ship approaching. X-Wing class."

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, pretty sure they do. 

And who cares.

[Kotowboy]

And they're In A Galaxy far Far Away a Long Time Ago...Yet they're humans who speak English.

[BlobVanDam]

They should definitely speak in an entirely fictional yet realistically plausible language that every actor must learn to speak natively, and we should have to watch the whole thing subtitled. How dare a movie contain our language when it's supposed to be another galaxy!

[Adami]

They should definitely speak in an entirely fictional yet realistically plausible language that every actor must learn to speak natively, and we should have to watch the whole thing subtitled. How dare a movie contain our language when it's supposed to be another galaxy!

Exactly!


Also Star Wars does have lots of made up languages that people speak.



There was an episode of SG-1 (100th episode) where they have a fake sci-fi show being filmed and two backstage guys are talking about whether or not to put apples on the set as props (I think).

"Do you really think that aliens in a totally different galaxy would be eating apples?"
"Why not? They speak english.."

[BlobVanDam]

WORMHOLE X-TREEEEEEEEEEEEEME!

[Adami]

WORMHOLE X-TREEEEEEEEEEEEEME!

Now there's a movie that needs to happen.

[BlobVanDam]

Wormhole X-treme already got 10 seasons + a movie. What more do you need?

[Adami]

Wormhole X-treme already got 10 seasons + a movie. What more do you need?

A trilogy. A prequel trilogy. A sequel trilogy.

















...AND A GOD DAMN CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!

[Kotowboy]

They should definitely speak in an entirely fictional yet realistically plausible language that every actor must learn to speak natively, and we should have to watch the whole thing subtitled. How dare a movie contain our language when it's supposed to be another galaxy!

YOURE GOD DAMNED RIGHT




also my post shoulda been in green font...

[BlobVanDam]

You're a hard man to read, Kotow.

[BlackInk]

Today I'm starting a Star Wars "marathon". I have sent an open invitation to few friends, and we'll start with The Phantom Menace today, and every wednesday from now on we'll see one movie. This is because we have a friend who hasn't seen any Star Wars movie, and she thought now was the right time. I also need to rewatch them before Last Jedi.

[BlobVanDam]

Today I'm starting a Star Wars "marathon". I have sent an open invitation to few friends, and we'll start with The Phantom Menace today, and every wednesday from now on we'll see one movie. This is because we have a friend who hasn't seen any Star Wars movie, and she thought now was the right time. I also need to rewatch them before Last Jedi.

In that case, maybe not start with such an insufferable part of the series.

[Logain Ablar]

Today I'm starting a Star Wars "marathon". I have sent an open invitation to few friends, and we'll start with The Phantom Menace today, and every wednesday from now on we'll see one movie. This is because we have a friend who hasn't seen any Star Wars movie, and she thought now was the right time. I also need to rewatch them before Last Jedi.

In that case, maybe not start with such an insufferable part of the series.

 

When do you plan to watch Rogue One? In between RotS and ANH?

It would be interesting to hear what your friend thinks of the PT vs the OT, watching the whole thing with fresh eyes.

[BlobVanDam]

If I was watching it for the first time, I think production order would be better than series order. The whole PT is kind of just there because. If anything those movies hurt the OT more than help it, and not just because of the badness.
Watching Rogue One before ANH would probably work either way though.

[Bolsters]

If I were watching them for the first time in chronological order, I'd probably never see the OT, because I wouldn't make it all the way through the PT. The only reason I did manage it is because I was invested enough after having known the OT for so many years.

[BlackInk]

Today I'm starting a Star Wars "marathon". I have sent an open invitation to few friends, and we'll start with The Phantom Menace today, and every wednesday from now on we'll see one movie. This is because we have a friend who hasn't seen any Star Wars movie, and she thought now was the right time. I also need to rewatch them before Last Jedi.

In that case, maybe not start with such an insufferable part of the series.

Yeah I know, but someone else has tried to watch A New Hope with her in the past, two times, but she fell asleep both times near the beginning. So I thought I'd try a different approach. Last time it was just her and one other person, so I thought I'd get a group together to maybe make it easier. Also, I thought that maybe seeing them in this order would make her more interested in the story once we actually get to the OT.

I have also prepared her that what we're watching tonight is a movie that is so bad it's almost funny.

[BlobVanDam]

Almost. But not really.

If she couldn't get through ANH, I highly doubt TPM is going to fare better.

[BlackInk]

To be fair, through the eyes of the newer generation of movie watchers, A New Hope is really dated and kind of slow. And knowing the person in question, I'm not so sure. I do however think that once we've gotten through it all, she'll think that A New Hope was a better movie, but I do believe Phantom Menace will hold her attention better and therefore work better as a starting point.

[BlobVanDam]

Damn millennials and their zero attention span unless everything's exploding before the opening credits.
And to be fair, TPM through the eyes of any generation is still a turd.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

Yeah I know, but someone else has tried to watch A New Hope with her in the past, two times, but she fell asleep both times near the beginning. So I thought I'd try a different approach. Last time it was just her and one other person, so I thought I'd get a group together to maybe make it easier. Also, I thought that maybe seeing them in this order would make her more interested in the story once we actually get to the OT.

I have actually heard a lot of people complain about A New Hope being too slow. Frankly, in comparison to today's films, it feels like it's moving at a snail's pace sometimes, especially near the beginning.

When I hear people say that The Force Awakens is simply a remake of Episode IV, the speed of the films is one of the first things I reference that is tangibly different. Episode VII is one of those movies where taking even a second to blink is a bad idea because you might miss something, whereas A New Hope allows for extended bathroom breaks at times.

Please don't get me wrong - The original Star Wars trilogy is my favorite collection of films alongside Lord of the Rings. They're just a tad slow, which makes perfect sense considering when they were made.

[Phoenix87x]

I respect ANH, but its just too slow for me. It was too slow for me when I was 7 and its too slow for me now. Its like the textbook lazy Sunday afternoon movie. Empire on the other hand 

[ariich]

Similarly, I respect the innovation and impact of A New Hope, but in today's context I find it a bit lacking in excitement. Whereas I don't find that with episodes V and VI at all.

[BlackInk]

Agreed. Empire and Jedi still hold up perfectly fine.

And to be fair, TPM through the eyes of any generation is still a turd.

Definetely.

[Kotowboy]

Yes. not only is it a bad Star Wars film but it's a really badly made film in it's own terms.