Star Wars Discussion Thread v. Rogue One

[bosk1]

This will surprise people but I found the fan service in R1 more egregious than in TFA.

Well, I don't think "fan service" is necessarily a bad thing, in and of itself, so that doesn't bother me.  But more to the point, I'd be curious to know what specifically you are talking about.  Can you point me to what you are referring to?

[Adami]

The only fan service in R1 that stood out as pointless was those two guys from the cantina.

The rest made sense. Why is the movie riddled with ships from a new hope? Cause it takes place right before hand. Having all new tech wouldn't make any sense.


For TFA, it felt to me that the story was written around the fan service and it became more plot points instead of frivolous cameos.

[Kotowboy]

Well the Vader fight at the end. Yes I know i'm not a SW fan - I only went because I like sci fi... But that did nothing for me...

Also R2 and 3PO being in that one scene.

I know people have said " Well we know they were there so why not show them ? "

Because we know they were there

[Logain Ablar]

The only fan service in R1 that stood out as pointless was those two guys from the cantina.

I agree. This was the only one that really jumped out at me. Other stuff like the blue milk and the little "radio controlled car" imperial droid (I'm sure somebody knows the name ) were nice touches, but not overdone.

The scene with R2 and 3-PO was a kind of blink and you'll miss it thing, and didn't really bother me.

If they wanted to lean more heavily on fan service, they could have given Vader a lot more screen time. I'm glad they didn't, but one or two more short scenes would have been cool.

I'd like to see the deleted scene that we got a glimpse of in the trailer, where Krennic says "The power we're dealing with is immeasurable". It would be cool to find out how that whole thing played out.

[Kotowboy]

Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of scenes from the trailer that weren't in the film...Were filmed specifically for the trailer.

[Mosh]

Empire
New Hope

TFA
Jedi
Sith
Rogue One

Menace
Clones

[Kotowboy]

I'd put Rogue One above all the other prequels.

I haven't seen the OT in many a year so couldn't rank them.

[Phoenix87x]

Empire

TFA and Rogue one

ANH
Jedi
Sith


menace


Clones

[Adami]

Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
Rogue One
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens

But I assume you guys don't want chronological order.




Empire
A New Hope
Return of the Jedi
Rogue One
The Force Awakens
Phantom Menace
Revenge of the Sith
Attack of the clones

[Kotowboy]

This isn't a diss...


Just wondering. All you people putting R1 above TFA and the OT...

What is it about R1 that everyone loves ? A gritty SW film ? A prequel that doesn't suck ? That Vader scene ?

Not complaining - I just found it boring and forgettable and have no desire to see it again.

I went to see TFA twice as it was so fun and engaging.

[Adami]

This isn't a diss...


Just wondering. All you people putting R1 above TFA and the OT...

What is it about R1 that everyone loves ? A gritty SW film ? A prequel that doesn't suck ? That Vader scene ?

Not complaining - I just found it boring and forgettable and have no desire to see it again.

I went to see TFA twice as it was so fun and engaging.

Well, I can't speak for the people that put R1 above any of the OT movies, but for as to why I put it above TFA....

It was mostly because I enjoyed it more. TFA was a lot more fun and it has much better characters, which is the one major thing R1 needed, better characters. I'd put them pretty close to equal, but R1 was just better made, to me personally, and I enjoyed it more. I'm also not a big SW fan (much like you) so I view them all as pretty light entertainment outside of the first two movies.

[pogoowner]

V
IV
VII
VI
R1


I-III are trash.

[BlackInk]

The Empire Strikes Back
The Force Awakens
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
Rogue One
A New Hope
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace

[Kotowboy]

It'll probably end up something like this

4 - 6

7 - 9

Rogue One / Han Solo / Whatever

I - III

[Logain Ablar]

ESB
ANH
ROTJ
R1
TFA
..
Those other ones

Edit: If I absolutely had to rank the prequels it would be:

ROTS
TPM
AOTC

[BlackInk]

I think Empire is great, but I don't worship it as a perfect masterpiece so in my mind it's definetely not impossible for any of the new trilogy to surpass it. The Force Awakens, despite its issues, isn't far behind it in my mind. So flesh out more of those great characters, a more original story, and it wouldn't surprise me if I have a new favorite Star Wars movie in the next few years.

[Kotowboy]

spinning thats a good trick

[Phoenix87x]

I want to go to the the millennium falcon school

[Orbert]

I love that.  Pretty sure it's here somewhere earlier in the thread, but that's okay, it's good to see it again.  I always liked to think that there were those who knew what was going on here with the design, and others who had no clue but rolled with it anyway, and we owe them a debt of gratitude either way for making this a reality.

[Kotowboy]

Why ?

[fadetoblackdude7]

The Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Return Of The Jedi
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Revenge Of The Sith
The Phantom Menace
Attack Of The Clones

[jonny108]

Ah good old rankings.

The Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
Revenge of the Sith
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones

I'm really looking forward to The Last Jedi.  I've got a feeling it could best the last two films. 

[Adami]

Am I the only one who thinks Revenge of the Sith is only marginally better than Attack of the Clones and that Phantom Menace is much better though still pretty bad?

[bosk1]

Probably not the ONLY one.  I mean, honestly, they all had pretty good moments, as well as things that really dragged them down.  How each of those elements hits a given person and causes them to rank the films can legitimately go any number of ways, IMO.

[Orbert]

Why ?

For making it a reality.

[BlobVanDam]

Am I the only one who thinks Revenge of the Sith is only marginally better than Attack of the Clones and that Phantom Menace is much better though still pretty bad?

I was with you for the first part, but TPM is by far the worst imo.

[Adami]

It's a terrible movie. But it had some good stuff going for it. It made the most use of practical sets of the prequel trilogy. Liam Neeson was actually good. The big fight scene was great, not just the fighting, but all of the tension within it.

I honestly can't think of anything good about the other two movies other than Natalie Portman being nice to look at.

[Cool Chris]

I enjoyed I-III when I saw them in the theater. When I saw them later on at home on DVD, I could barely make it through I, while II and III still brought some enjoyment. Years from now, I could see myself popping in II or III for some fun, but can't imagine watching I again.

[Logain Ablar]

Liam Neeson was actually good. The big fight scene was great, not just the fighting, but all of the tension within it.

I honestly can't think of anything good about the other two movies other than Natalie Portman being nice to look at.

I think Liam Neeson was the best thing about TPM - he totally sold the character of Qui Gon. The fight scene with Darth Maul was really good, maybe one of the best of all the movies, and the Duel Of The Fates soundtrack was excellent, but I think Darth Maul was criminally underused. Could they not have had him escape TPM, and finish him off in AOTC instead? A scene where Obi Wan comes up against him again in AOTC to settle the score may have been cool.

There's a couple of other scenes I can think of in any of the other prequels that had any sort of tension, and both were in III.

• The scene where Anakin and Palpatine were at the theatre, and Palpy starts to tell Anakin about the dark side of the Force. I thought that scene had some depth to it, as you started to see the emotional manipulation of Palpy.
• The duel between Obi Wan and Anakin, was pretty good, but I think I would have felt more for Anakin if he wasn't portrayed as a whiny petulant teenager up until that point. I think this would have worked better if A was a character that we liked right from the start, but got to see his fall from grace over time, due to Palpy's constant whisperings in his ear.

I'm not going to argue about Natalie Portman.. 

[hefdaddy42]

My rankings:

Empire
New Hope
Jedi
Rogue One
Force Awakens
Sith
Phantom
Clones

[ariich]

FINE IF I MUST

V: Empire
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VI: Jedi
VII: Force Awakens
Rogue One
III: Sith
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IV: A New Hope
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II: Clones
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I: Phantom Menace

[Kotowboy]

Hey Rich - why do you prefer Sith to Hope ?

Just curious is all.

[ariich]

For its time, Hope was obviously mindblowing, hugely influential and would be right up there at the top of the pack. But watching the films now, I just enjoy it slightly less. Which, really, is the only way we can judge these things.

[BlackInk]

While I respect A New Hope as a classic, it is dated, and honestly it's a bit slow.

[ronnibran]

I haven't contributed to this thread at all, but...

A New Hope
The Force Awakens

Return of the Jedi
Empire Strikes Back

Sith
Clones
Rogue One

Phantom Menace

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I guess I'm in the minority to rank Force Awakens so highly, but I really thought it brought justice to the original trilogy.  And I've always been a huge sucker for the first one (my only tattoo is of the death star, c'mon!).  And I'm also in the minority that I didn't enjoy Rogue One all that much.  I dunno, I only saw it once.  I'm sure I'll see it once released on video and maybe I won't dislike it so much.